All my mods part1

[Gummy Bear]

Well well,,, I did get my (400) mesh in after all. I was beginning to wonder if it would ever get here.
It took a few tries to get it where the coil wouldn't glow and still heat up good, but I think I'm on it now. The jury is still out on the taste. It does seem to wick good. Not having to drip is a big plus.

Edit after fooling around with it for a while :
@ 3.5 v It's icky sweet, and no vapor on the exhale. @ 4 v not so sweet and a bit of vapor on the exhale. @ 5 v the vapor is getting a bit to hot for my taste, but there is some vapor to play with on the exhale. So it looks like for the way this coil is set up 4.5 v is as good as it will get.

 

[nofalls]

there are no best deals on mesh that have been found yet, the germans and UK both have great sites with reasonable prices whilst we take it in the pooper. there's amazon(which resells smallparts.com), mcmaster carr and hoping to find some on fleabay. The only reasonable price is The Mesh Company: Online Shop for Woven, Knitted and Perforated Mesh for Art, Craft, Floristry, Modelling and Engineering in the UK, but it's $20 for shipping. If you are buying larger quantities it makes sense, but ouchies for shipping. When I decide which mesh I like I'll probably make an order there.

I found 200 and 325 at McMaster for ~5 for the 200 and ~14 for the 325. These are the 12X12 sheets. Not sure about the shipping yet. I ordered it but they have not sent me an email with the shipping advise yet.

-mlk

 

[nofalls]

May be possible to meet. I'm back on 1th Dec. Then i have to look for free dates. I send you a message in this thread ift its possible. Hope you have internet access in germany?
raidy

Super. I will have access there as well. Thank you.

-Mark

 

[Quick1]

@ 3.5 v It's icky sweet, and no vapor on the exhale. @ 4 v not so sweet and a bit of vapor on the exhale. @ 5 v the vapor is getting a bit to hot for my taste, but there is some vapor to play with on the exhale. So it looks like for the way this coil is set up 4.5 v is as good as it will get.

You should just measure the resistance on that particular coil and the volts you like it at and calculate the wattage. Then you'll know where the sweet spot is (for you) and you will be able to build to that each time going forward without trial and error.

 

[Gummy Bear]

The ohms=1.5

 

[raidy]

Well well,,, I did get my (400) mesh in after all. I was beginning to wonder if it would ever get here.
It took a few tries to get it where the coil wouldn't glow and still heat up good, but I think I'm on it now. The jury is still out on the taste. It does seem to wick good. Not having to drip is a big plus.

Edit after fooling around with it for a while :
@ 3.5 v It's icky sweet, and no vapor on the exhale. @ 4 v not so sweet and a bit of vapor on the exhale. @ 5 v the vapor is getting a bit to hot for my taste, but there is some vapor to play with on the exhale. So it looks like for the way this coil is set up 4.5 v is as good as it will get.

Best method to find the optimal configuration: Try and error. Importent parameters:

1) diameter of coil
2) distance between the coil wires (should be max. 1-2mm=vapour 2-4mm=th)
3) length of kanthal
4) how strong the screen is rolled (hope translation is o.k.)

Test, test, test and suddenly it happens: the WOW-effect!

EDIT:1,5Ohms is to low! should be 2,5-2,3Ohms

 

[Gummy Bear]

4) how strong the screen is rolled (hope translation is o.k.)

Your translation is o.k.
What is the difference between a tight roll and a loose one? Vapor/ TH ? or something else?

 

[raidy]

to tight=not enough liquid, to loose same. Its a good vapour for only 2 seconds. But then it runs to hot.
Best is to look at my pictures from atty's in this thread (hard to find).

 

[Gummy Bear]

I'll try that.

 

[ecitek]

Just found these - any good? Swatch - 3" x 3" - $8.00

STAINLESS MESH SCREEN
1) TWPINC - 400
2) TWP INC - 325
3) McNichols

 

[Gummy Bear]

2.4 ohms, 1.8mm wick, 1mm space between coil wraps, 4 volts.
Sorry but I still don't like it. too icky sweet no matter what I do.

 

[JohnUK]

I just read the whole 67 pages and raidy you're awesome BTW I'm in the UK and if anyone needs help with mesh from the mesh company maybe I can help I'm sure shipping to the USA I can do at a good price unlike the mesh company.

 

[raidy]

I just read the whole 67 pages and raidy you're awesome BTW I'm in the UK and if anyone needs help with mesh from the mesh company maybe I can help I'm sure shipping to the USA I can do at a good price unlike the mesh company.

Wow, thats nice and fair!

 

[v1John]

Don't the insect screens work from the hardware stores?

 

[Willriker]

I dont know if the mesh on the insect screens is fine enough. It could be, but somehow i doubt that people would spend as much as they are if that mesh was suitable.

 

[v1John]

I do like the flash/th, so I thought by using the larger mesh it could be possible. I jus don't know how to be sure that they're stainless steel.

 

[Gummy Bear]

I do like the flash/th, so I thought by using the larger mesh it could be possible. I just don't know how to be sure that they're stainless steel.

Stick a magnet to it. if it sticks it's NOT SS

 

[WillyB]

there are no best deals on mesh that have been found yet, the germans and UK both have great sites with reasonable prices whilst we take it in the pooper. there's amazon(which resells smallparts.com), mcmaster carr and hoping to find some on fleabay. The only reasonable price is The Mesh Company: Online Shop for Woven, Knitted and Perforated Mesh for Art, Craft, Floristry, Modelling and Engineering in the UK, but it's $20 for shipping. If you are buying larger quantities it makes sense, but ouchies for shipping. When I decide which mesh I like I'll probably make an order there.

That makes it un-reasonable. The old EBay scam, charge $3 for the item and $15 shipping and handling. The Mesh Company won't ship to the USA anyway.

ecitek

Just found these - any good? Swatch - 3" x 3" - $8.00

Without knowing the shipping $8 means nothing.

And folks should note (Raidy's kind of explained it) there is more to mesh than just the mesh number.

Here's some #325 specs I found. A typo?

Thickness 0.0011 inches
Mesh Opening Size 0.002 inches
Mesh Number 325
Open Area % 41

Thickness 0.0014 inches
Mesh Opening Size 0.0017 inches
Mesh Number 325
Open Area % 31

Kinda like those who complain about their '510' atty without listing the maker.

Two folks could be using #325 mesh and end up with completely different results.

 

[WillyB]

I found 200 and 325 at McMaster for ~5 for the 200 and ~14 for the 325. These are the 12X12 sheets. Not sure about the shipping yet. I ordered it but they have not sent me an email with the shipping advise yet.

-mlk

Good find. For the silica from them 1lb UPS $4.28.

 

[ecitek]

That makes it un-reasonable. The old EBay scam, charge $3 for the item and $15 shipping and handling. The Mesh Company won't ship to the USA anyway. Without knowing the shipping $8 means nothing. And folks should note (Raidy's kind of explained it) there is more to mesh than just the mesh number.

It's $8.00 for each 3"x3" swatch - took me about 10 seconds to find out the shipping cost using the cart. I posted the link to see if I was on the right track with the type if mesh.