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Allergy to nickel, khantal

Discussion in 'General Vaping Discussion' started by Tomas_Cobain, Jan 28, 2019.

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  1. Tomas_Cobain

    Tomas_Cobain Full Member

    Dec 26, 2018
    Okay i am having a bad reaction to i think is the coil of my vape and not the pg, i am allergic to nickel and i think to khantal too, i want to use some coils of ss but they have nickel some of then, what do you think? im am from argentina and i dont know what coils with only ss exists or titanium, bless.
     
  2. the wind

    the wind Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 12, 2012
    alabama
    Man that realy sucks,ss does have nickel in it.
    There are titanium coils but temperature controlled mod will be required to power it.
     
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  3. Mordacai

    Mordacai Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 16, 2019
    UK
    Tomas_Cobain, can your mod do TC/TCR?

    As Chromium and Nickel can cause allergic reactions.

    Nickel-free austenitic stainless steels for medical applications

    Because it looks like if you are having an allergic reaction to stainless steel, you'll probably have to use Titanium under TC/TCR mode.

    Or even change device to a Usonicig, a ultrasonic vape mod.

    But do go and see a trained medical professional as soon as possible to discuss this further.

    Best wishes, take care.
     
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  4. greek mule

    greek mule Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 2, 2018
    Athens,Greece
    ss316 L contains Nickel at 10-14 %, I don't know if that amount is capable for such issue.
     
  5. Topwater Elvis

    Topwater Elvis Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Dec 26, 2012
    Texas
    SS 430 wire doesn't contain nickel.
    I've never used it.

    But, you used a lot of ' thinks ' / you think your having a reaction to, you think it is nickel & kanthal.
    Have you eliminated flavorings & sweeteners by vaping flavorless?
     
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  6. ceeceeisme

    ceeceeisme Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    If I'm not mistaken, you are looking for factory coils?

    If you are building your own simple coils you can always use 430 stainless steel as it has no nickel in it. You might want to think about getting an RDA or RTA so you can control what kind of wire you're using :)
     
  7. ceeceeisme

    ceeceeisme Ultra Member ECF Veteran


    LOL... beat me to it :p
     
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  8. Wayneo

    Wayneo Super Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 5, 2015
    Oh Canada
    SS430 BY SPEC can contain Nickel. Unkamen advertises THEIR SS430 as Nickel free.
     
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  9. Mordacai

    Mordacai Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 16, 2019
    UK
    Tomas_Cobain, first I assume that you're using liquids with Nicotine and after some further thought.

    Have you tried making your own unflavoured and unsweetened liquid? As this may be worth trying to eliminate all possibilities.
     
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  10. F-machine

    F-machine Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 24, 2018
    Trapped in Asia
    Don't forget ceramic heating element is also a thing in vaping.
     
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  11. F-machine

    F-machine Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 24, 2018
    Trapped in Asia
    Hi Tomas! I remember you from that other thread about asthma? Man, I hate to be the black sheep here, but you know you better not take anything into your lungs especially you have allergies and asthma. My GF in high school have chronic asthma and she's allergic from peanuts, to shrimp and anything in between. In her case, any allergic reaction will surely trigger major asthma attack. Those were the days I am learning to smoke and one day when she smelled me right after I smoked, my smell triggered her asthma attack. She was hospitalized for a week and her mom looks at me like she wants to kill me. Imagine a week in hospital and the bills.

    Now seeing you from that thread to here, I imagine you may be having a hard time looking for what works for you? All I can tell you in this thread is that there are ceramic coil heads out there. But even if you get some, you may still be allergic to PG, certain flavors and what not. I wish you luck mate. I hope you find what works for you and never smoke if you don't. I feel sad about your case. But I think you shouldn't inhale anything but clean air.
     
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  12. CMD-Ky

    CMD-Ky Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Supporting member
    Sep 15, 2013
    KY
    I react poorly to PG, it irritates my mouth. Nothing severe but it is unpleasant. Mix your own nicotine and VG. If it is too thick you can thin it with distilled water. The experts in the DIY section tell me that 1ml of water will thin VG as much as 4ml of PG. No flavoring is used.
    I mix 100 ml using 18 ml of VG nicotine, 78 ml VG and 4 ml water.
    I don't care for Nickle and use Stainless 403 from Unkamen who claims that it has no Nickle.
     
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  13. pdib

    pdib Registered Supplier - Offline ECF Veteran

    Nov 23, 2012
    I have a Nickel "sensitivity" in vaping, and a Nickel "intolerance" per food.
    So, this is something that I know a little bit about (just on the level of personal experience).

    What I've read most often is that a Nickel sensitivity per vaping is most frequently associated with sore throat type symptoms. Most folks stop using Nichrome wire with this discomfort, and so it's hard to say what other symptoms may result from prolonged use (see ↓ "food" symptoms)
    Yes, the 10-14% Nickel in SS (300 series alloys) is plenty enough to cause a reaction.
    Kanthal, however, should cause absolutely no problems. So, if you're pretty sure you're reacting to Kanthal as well, then most likely not a Nickel-related problem.
    I vape SS 430, and can vape Kanthal (but don't, because it seems to crud up much more quickly with nic salts).

    FYI & BTW, a Nickel "intolerance" (per food) often results in skin issues (itchy, rashy, "eczema" type stuff, and itchy zitty face type-style stuff too betimes).
     
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  14. Eskie

    Eskie ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    May 6, 2016
    NY
    I'm going to agree with @F-machine . Of you have asthma I wouldn't be worrying about blaming PG, Ni, or anything else for your lung problems. You shouldn't be smoking or vaping. Finding another way to stop smoking will be healthier for you. Good luck.
     
  15. Tomas_Cobain

    Tomas_Cobain Full Member

    Dec 26, 2018
    definitive i cant vape mate :(, yesterday i vape with some ss and pure vg without nicotine and flouvers and my asthma reacts :( i think i will never vape again, im so sad :(
     
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  16. Mordacai

    Mordacai Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 16, 2019
    UK
    Tomas_Cobain, sorry to hear that. You don't have much luck do you.

    We never asked what setup your using and how you're using it? Could you tell us please.
     
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  17. Topwater Elvis

    Topwater Elvis Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Dec 26, 2012
    Texas
    Many folks myself included have mild to severe reactions to VG.
    From tight chest, heavy feeling in chest, raspy sound in lungs, shortness of breath to unable to take a deep breath up to difficulty taking a breath.

    Just me, I vape 50/50 with no issues, a dozen or so vapes per day of 40pg/60vg not usually a problem, 1 - 4 vapes per day of 70% or above triggers a very undesirable response that can take a few hours to subside.
    If I were to take a dozen or so hits from 70% or more VG liquids within an hour, I'd be in severe distress, the effects would take at least several hours to a couple days to fully return to normal.

    I do not have COPD or asthma. I can only imagine the consequences of vaping high % VG for people that do.
     
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  18. F-machine

    F-machine Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 24, 2018
    Trapped in Asia
    Worst news to hear mate! :cry: Believe me when I say I feel you and I sincerely wish you the best! Your post made me think what is it about smoking, and eventually vaping that we somehow need it. I wish you don't smoke again man. I guess we just need something to relax ourselves during those few minutes of free time? For that I have nothing good to offer, but good luck! May you have the best of health from here! It's not the end for any of us. Something good is always out there, waiting, and just needs to be found. Cheers mate! See you around!
     
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  19. Tomas_Cobain

    Tomas_Cobain Full Member

    Dec 26, 2018

    thank you brother, I'm going to start swimming to distract myself and I'll probably buy some nicotine patches, thank you to reply me, wish you the best!
     
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  20. Tomas_Cobain

    Tomas_Cobain Full Member

    Dec 26, 2018
    im using a minikin reborn and a mad dog gta, with my allergy to nickel i buy this coils that they sold me as khantal, i dont know if they are khantal.[​IMG]
     
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