Altria introduces Marlboro and Skoal Smokeless Tobacco Sticks, Reynolds expands test markets for Camel Orbs, Strips & Sticks

[Bill Godshall]

v1John inquired

Doesn't Phillip Morris-Altria own the patents of the electronic cigarette to begin with? That's my understanding.

I'm not aware that any tobacco company owns a patent(s) for any e-cigarette products. That's also the reason I suspect Altria, Reynolds, Lorillard, PM, BAT or other tobacco companies haven't began marketing e-cigarettes (as they have patents for the tobacco products they market).

There have been rumors (that have been repeated) claiming that PM was negotiating to either buy Ruyan e-cigarette patent(s) or to buy Ruyan Group (now called Dragonite). But execs at Ruyan America denied that rumor when I asked them several years ago.

Ruyan America is now defunct, but it had been licensed to sell Ruyan products in the US, and it stopped selling in September, 2009 due to concerns about FDA's import ban and campaign to demonize e-cigarettes).

I suspect the rumors about PM and Ruyan negotiating were created and spread by some Ruyan Group investers to increase the price of stock (before they sold their shares for a quick profit).

 

[Bill Godshall]

Kristin wrote:

Check out links about tea tree oil, which is infused into toothpicks that some people use to quit smoking. I'm surprised the ANTZ aren't all over this!!

As long as tea tree oil (or toothpicks containing tea tree oil) aren't marketed for therapeutic use to treat nicotine dependance, they don't violate the FDCA (although the FDA continues to maintain, including for e-cigarettes, that marketing a product with a smoking cessation claim violates the FDCA, despite the fact that cigarette smoking isn't considered a disease or disorder).

 

[DC2]

Doesn't Phillip Morris-Altria own the patents of the electronic cigarette to begin with? That's my understanding.
I wish Altria would make quality cartomizers nearby, don't you all?

As far as I know, Ruyan still holds the patent rights...
Dragonite/Ruyan files patent infringement lawsuit in US court against three companies
Dragonite (formerly Ruyan) v US lawsuit
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...cussion/149119-whats-all-patent-nonsense.html

 

[kristin]

Kristin wrote:

Check out links about tea tree oil, which is infused into toothpicks that some people use to quit smoking. I'm surprised the ANTZ aren't all over this!!

As long as tea tree oil (or toothpicks containing tea tree oil) aren't marketed for therapeutic use to treat nicotine dependance, they don't violate the FDCA (although the FDA continues to maintain, including for e-cigarettes, that marketing a product with a smoking cessation claim violates the FDCA, despite the fact that cigarette smoking isn't considered a disease or disorder).

I was joking, Bill!

 

[v1John]

Ok, I found it, it was this patent that was brought up that made me think that Philip Morris owned it.
It seems to be Gilbert's Ecig.

...from 1963

the link to an article with the image:

New Invention of 1963: The Smokeless Non-Tobacco Cigarette | The Electronic Cigarette & E-Cigarettes by Instead


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After reading the article above, now I just Google ' patent 3,200,819 '
and it shows many many links.
Can patents be sold, lost or stolen?
It seems like so many patents exist since then.

 

[v1John]

This is what came up when I googled images of 'Philip Morris Heatbar', if Altria can build consistent quality nearby, I just might like it.