Am I doing this wrong? Terrible battery life.

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TrollDragon

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Series...
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I didn’t know much about mods, I was hoping for all day vap and not having to carry a set of spare.
It’s all good :)
I get nearly 12 hours or 8 ml vape time on a single battery (Samsung 30Q 3000 mAh 15A) DNA regulated mod. I consider that all day. I'm only vaping at 30 watts, though. Having said that, I always carry spare batteries or a second setup with me when out of the house.

Another solution is to get a triple battery mod. Then you're set all day at that wattage.
Probably, but no guarantee on that. I got the same 12 hours vape time with my 3 battery Wismec RX200 using the same Samsung batteries, same tank/coils, and wattage setting. Mooch said this might be from different chip's efficiency ratings and different voltage cutoffs.
 
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Since the batteries are in series wouldn't that still be 3000mAh...
Mooch told me that doesn't apply in regulated mods, just mech mods. Watch his Minding Your Mah video on series vs parallel. Its different for mechs and regulated.
 
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Man this forum is active lol
Lots to take in, right now it is setup as it comes from the box from Vaporesso
I’ll play around a bit with this! Batteries comes from amz.

Unless one of the reputable vendors has an amazon presence, amazon & the like is an at best iffy source for cells.

Buy authentic cells only from known reputable vendors / dealers to avoid receiving counterfeit/fake or lesser quality rewrapped cells.
Mooch has a list of reputable dealers on his blogs,,, I don't have enough 'service' to link anything right now.

' Terrible battery life ' can also be caused by using counterfeit, lesser quality cells.
 
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Mooch told me that doesn't apply in regulated mods, just mech mods. Watch his Minding Your Mah video on series vs parallel. Its different for mechs and regulated.
That's right... I was focusing more on the total mAh conversation comments than the OP poor battery life.

These threads seem to have a crazy way of getting off track easily around here. :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

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Im on hour 12, 250ish puffs and at about 40% on a single golisi s35 21700, 3750mah battery. .39ohm single coil 40w in the obs nano engine on top of an armour pro. I do 3 to 4 second pulls. I'm loving this new mod. I havent touched my pulse 80w since friday.
If throw one of my ijoy 20700s in the armour with same build as above I get twice the life compared to my dead rabbit rdas .18 build at 55 watts.

Basically unless you vape lightly and not everytime you breath you're not going to get all day. I carry 2 batteries with me in a case for those days where I dont find my way home from 630am to 10pm or later. I have not needed the 3rd battery yet but I'd rather have it and not need it.
 

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Series...
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Parallel...
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Yup, but mAh ratings depend on voltage to define total energy available, which is what defines run times at the same watt output. What we need to look at is watt hours. This way we can compare any two batteries or any two battery packs in any device, regulated or mechanical for example.

mAh * V / 1000 = Wh

or

Ah * V = Wh

So from the example above using the second formula:

3.4 Ah * 14.4 V = 48.96 Wh
13.6 Ah * 3.6 V = 48.96 Wh

Both battery packs will run the same time if they are putting out he same number of watts.

ETA: BTW, this is quite useful for power tools too. Typically these power packs are marketed using Ah numbers only, but 2 Ah at 12V has only half the run time as 2 Ah at 24V.
 
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Yup, but mAh ratings depend on voltage to define total energy available, which is what defines run times at the same watt output. What we need to look at is watt hours. This way we can compare any two batteries or any two battery packs in any device, regulated or mechanical for example.

mAh * V / 1000 = Wh

or

Ah * V = Wh

So from the example above using the second formula:

3.4 Ah * 14.4 V = 48.96 Wh
13.6 Ah * 3.6 V = 48.96 Wh

Both battery packs will run the same time if they are putting out he same number of watts.

ETA: BTW, this is quite useful for power tools too. Typically these power packs are marketed using Ah numbers only, but 2 Ah at 12V has only half the run time as 2 Ah at 24V.
Thanks Ryedan. :thumb:
 

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Currently running the new Vaporesso Luxe that takes two 18650.
I have some LG HG2 at 3000mah, using a 0.18ohm and vaping at 75W, 2 Sec drag.
It is very taxing in the battery department, I dont think I can last a day...
Normal?

I don’t think so. I have several Vaporesso Revenger Xs and typically get about 12 hours out of it but I’m vaping at around 35-40 watts and .5ish ohms. Chain vaper. At the Wattage you’re using the batteries are going to drain faster.

Lower the watts. Increase the ohms. More battery life and less juice used.
 
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Hummm
I am not sure what you guys think of me now. LOL.

Don't worry about it @Gahau, you're cool :)

I dont think I chain vape, Maybe 20 drag an hour? I have never let it run all the way down but from looking at how fast the battery pictogram is going... I am pressure I am not going to get an all day vape.

When I first switched from smoking to vaping I vaped a lot to help me stick to vaping. In my opinion, do whatever you have to to keep from smoking. 20 drags an hour (or however many you need) is just fine. After 6 years I vape less than that, but I also don't have to worry about not smoking anymore. My advice is do what you have to do to get past the smoking addiction and then move forward as you see fit. And if that means you have to carry extra batteries for a while, that's not too bad.

Do what works for you and if you have any questions don't hesitate to ask here. Best of luck with it Gahau! :thumb:
 

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Don't worry about it @Gahau, you're cool :)



When I first switched from smoking to vaping I vaped a lot to help me stick to vaping. In my opinion, do whatever you have to to keep from smoking. 20 drags an hour (or however many you need) is just fine. After 6 years I vape less than that, but I also don't have to worry about not smoking anymore. My advice is do what you have to do to get past the smoking addiction and then move forward as you see fit. And if that means you have to carry extra batteries for a while, that's not too bad.

Do what works for you and if you have any questions don't hesitate to ask here. Best of luck with it Gahau! :thumb:
That’s the plan!

I need to slow my acquisition a little... LOL
I Started with the Vaporesso Luxe
Then got an Vaporesso Zero, got
Then I saw The Aspire Nautilus AIO, got
Then I also saw the Lost Vape Orion, got
Then I talked myself into needing a back up, Vaporesso Tarot Baby, got
Then I needed a small backup, Vaporesso Orca, got
And I discover about Vape Box... sub

Now I am browsing for RDAs...
I have been out of the Vap Scene for a while LOL
 

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Since the batteries are in series wouldn't that still be 3000mAh...

The regulator chip does not care what the battery configuration is, it only sees the battery/s as a pool of watt hours. The methodology you are describing only applies to unregulated devices. Two HG2s is twice as much electrical energy as one.
 

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Make sure you get a good battery case, plastic or whatever, to carry them in.

Yup ... enough vapers have sacrificed a pair of pants and part of their leg to keys and other metal objects in a pocket with bare lithium cells. They can turn into a blowtorch in 30 seconds or less. Good cases are free from some battery dealers and cheap if you have to buy them.
 
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