Am I the only one getting better experience/flavor at higher ohms?

[treehead]

I've heard alot that sub-ohming and lower ohm's produce a better flavor/vapor experience, however I've built everything from a .4-2, and I've gotta say I've had the meatiest and tastiest vapes around 1.8 ohms, just like most carto's are set to. It seems that as I go down (although keeping within my sweet wattage range), I get more flavor change (for the worse, not burning just...notes disappearing), a harsher hit, not in throat hit terms as in it feels like 10% of the vapor was incinerated. It seems with my particular tastes at least, that more coil= denser vapor, and much better flavor. Maybe it's my juice, I use 100% vg occasionally I'll use a 20/80vg mix, or maybe it's my setup (gamma v2, vamo v5, usually around 7 watts, 6.8 is my sweet spot). Aside from vape quality, my coils are sooo much less tempermental with higher ohms as well, almost no problems with a 1.8 coil. (And yes I know about proper airflow)

Am I normal?
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[^Top-Shelf^]

The flavors of all my juices seems to excel at higher ohms or lower wattage also. I was beginning to think I was the only one lol. Seems I get the very best flavor when my battery hits 3.5-3.6 volts on my mech. I'm using a 2.4 ohm coil for conserving my battery but no matter what juice I use "most are 50/50" the flavor seems to taste really good at that voltage. Not sure why this is maybe I've yet to get some high quality juice...

 

[treehead]

The flavors of all my juices seems to excel at higher ohms or lower wattage also. I was beginning to think I was the only one lol. Seems I get the very best flavor when my battery hits 3.5-3.6 volts on my mech. I'm using a 2.4 ohm coil for conserving my battery but no matter what juice I use "most are 50/50" the flavor seems to taste really good at that voltage. Not sure why this is maybe I've yet to get some high quality juice...

I think we have very similar tastes my friend, my mech mod is almost always at 3.3-3.5volts, and a little higher <2 ohms, my limit where I start noticing degrading of liquid quality is 6.81 exactly, on almost all the juices I've tried expensive or not. Thanks for the honest feedback that's why this site is awesome to me.

 

[Ryedan]

I used to think that too until I tried it. I still sometimes think I'm losing flavor and try a bit higher resistance only to go back to less again.

I do not however like a low resistance coils at low power. I always use mechanical mods and work with 27 gauge Kanthal. I set up around 0.5 ohms with a Trident dual coil, 0.6 ohms on a Geni and about 0.7 ohms on a IGO-L. For me these only work well at higher power with thicker wire, more air flow and taking lung hits. I tried my Geni on a regulated mod at 2.0 ohms and 12 watts and it was not worth it for me. Lacked all around; flavor, vapor and TH. I probably could have made it better, but I really liked what happened to the vape when I went higher in power and made the other appropriate setup changes that go along with that. I've stuck with that since.

Now, these setups are not for everyone. The Trident puts out just under 30 watts with a fresh battery and it's a very aggressive vape specially with new cotton in it. I hardly ever take longer than three second pulls on it. The flavor and vapor production are fantastic. Juice tastes different than at lower power, flavor nuances come out, notes change, it really transforms the flavors.

The Geni is a different experience even at 25 watts. I think the SS wick takes a lot of heat from the coil specially when it's warming up. Flavors seem a little cleaner and different nuances come out.

IMO the Kayfun type RBAs deliver the most concentrated flavor and they do it at much lower power. I never go above about 16 watts with these and I think I'm going to build around 14 watts next time I make a coil.

This has been my experience, but as always YMMV.

 

[treehead]

I used to think that too until I tried it. I still sometimes think I'm losing flavor and try a bit higher resistance only to go back to less again.

I do not however like a low resistance coils at low power. I always use mechanical mods and work with 27 gauge Kanthal. I set up around 0.5 ohms with a Trident dual coil, 0.6 ohms on a Geni and about 0.7 ohms on a IGO-L. For me these only work well at higher power with thicker wire, more air flow and taking lung hits. I tried my Geni on a regulated mod at 2.0 ohms and 12 watts and it was not worth it for me. Lacked all around; flavor, vapor and TH. I probably could have made it better, but I really liked what happened to the vape when I went higher in power and made the other appropriate setup changes that go along with that. I've stuck with that since.

Now, these setups are not for everyone. The Trident puts out just under 30 watts with a fresh battery and it's a very aggressive vape specially with new cotton in it. I hardly ever take longer than three second pulls on it. The flavor and vapor production are fantastic. Juice tastes different than at lower power, flavor nuances come out, notes change, it really transforms the flavors.

The Geni is a different experience even at 25 watts. I think the SS wick takes a lot of heat from the coil specially when it's warming up. Flavors seem a little cleaner and different nuances come out.

IMO the Kayfun type RBAs deliver the most concentrated flavor and they do it at much lower power. I never go above about 16 watts with these and I think I'm going to build around 14 watts next time I make a coil.

This has been my experience, but as always YMMV.

*Believe me I'm a dripping veteran, I just think low ohms simply condense the hot-spot, physics agree that more power over more surface area=better flavor/better vapor consistency. When I use sub-ohms I either get a rain cloud in my mouth (not drops, but condenses on my tongue, that DEFINITELY makes the flavor stronger but I'm not trying to drink it), or it makes the flavors "warmer" in other words incinerates a percentage of it before the wicking kicks in. I've found 7-10 watts on around 1.8 coils=right out of the bottle/unchanged flavor, and perfect density consistency in the vapor, then again I like to draw for more than 3 seconds. I like my long smoother draws.

 

[Ryedan]

*Believe me I'm a dripping veteran, I just think low ohms simply condense the hot-spot, physics agree that more power over more surface area=better flavor/better vapor consistency. When I use sub-ohms I either get a rain cloud in my mouth (not drops, but condenses on my tongue, that DEFINITELY makes the flavor stronger but I'm not trying to drink it), or it makes the flavors "warmer" in other words incinerates a percentage of it before the wicking kicks in. I've found 7-10 watts on around 1.8 coils=right out of the bottle/unchanged flavor, and perfect density consistency in the vapor, then again I like to draw for more than 3 seconds. I like my long smoother draws.

The great thing about vaping is that almost anyone who gets into it will find something that works for them. I'm glad you found yours.

Vape on brother

 

[Bunnykiller]

I tried a 3 ohm nano coil on my RSST and that was a serious vape ( 11W setting)... there is something going on with this nano technology..

 

[yellowrider]

Currently 1.4ohm on 3.7 on my kfun/provari. I never go above 4v, or under 1ohm.

 

[bcalvanese]

i use SR (3.0 ohm) cartos, and the current coil on my Kayfun Lite Plus is 2.9 ohms. I have my ProVari set to 3.5 volts and get a very satisfying hit.

 

[tj99959]

A lot of it depends on what heads you're using, and how you have modified them. It isn't a level playing field with RBA/RDA's.
Then comes how you do your build, just a simple micro and nano will not vape the same at the same resistance.
The only key is to find what YOU like.

I build my coils from 1.8 to 2.2 ohms dpending on the 'under load' voltage drop of the PV.

 

[crxess]

System not balanced.

I do not believe there is a Magic # that is perfect, but rather a combination that works. People prefer Vaping anywhere from Ultra Sub Ohm(.35ohm,etc.) to Very high resistances. (3.6ohm and higher)

Power application
Coil Resistance
Air Flow - Volume and routing
Wick capacity/Capability
E-liquid Blend/Flavoring
Draw technique

When everything is in balance an excellent Vape should be produced at any given level.

 

[edyle]

I've heard alot that sub-ohming and lower ohm's produce a better flavor/vapor experience, however I've built everything from a .4-2, and I've gotta say I've had the meatiest and tastiest vapes around 1.8 ohms, just like most carto's are set to. It seems that as I go down (although keeping within my sweet wattage range), I get more flavor change (for the worse, not burning just...notes disappearing), a harsher hit, not in throat hit terms as in it feels like 10% of the vapor was incinerated. It seems with my particular tastes at least, that more coil= denser vapor, and much better flavor. Maybe it's my juice, I use 100% vg occasionally I'll use a 20/80vg mix, or maybe it's my setup (gamma v2, vamo v5, usually around 7 watts, 6.8 is my sweet spot). Aside from vape quality, my coils are sooo much less tempermental with higher ohms as well, almost no problems with a 1.8 coil. (And yes I know about proper airflow)

Am I normal?
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No you are not the only one.

It is the temperature of the coil that is relevant.

 

[edyle]

The flavors of all my juices seems to excel at higher ohms or lower wattage also. I was beginning to think I was the only one lol. Seems I get the very best flavor when my battery hits 3.5-3.6 volts on my mech. I'm using a 2.4 ohm coil for conserving my battery but no matter what juice I use "most are 50/50" the flavor seems to taste really good at that voltage. Not sure why this is maybe I've yet to get some high quality juice...

3.5 x 3.5 / 2.4 = 5.1 watts.

All you need is to get a simple VW device, like a vamo, svd, sid, zmax, vv v3, mvp
and set it to 5 watts
and vape away.

When your battery on you mech is fully charged at 4.2, the power level is
4.2 x 4.2 / 2.4 = 7 watts

 

[edyle]

I think we have very similar tastes my friend, my mech mod is almost always at 3.3-3.5volts, and a little higher <2 ohms, my limit where I start noticing degrading of liquid quality is 6.81 exactly, on almost all the juices I've tried expensive or not. Thanks for the honest feedback that's why this site is awesome to me.

I presume that is 6.81 watts ?

 

[edyle]

Currently 1.4ohm on 3.7 on my kfun/provari. I never go above 4v, or under 1ohm.

1: What guage
2: dual or single coil

 

[Hill]

I've never tried a sub-ohm coil so I can't make a direct comparison, however I will say I have a couple AGA-T2s that I rebuild at around 1.8 to 2.0 ohms with cotton wicks and micro-coils vaping at around 3.8 to 4.2 volts depending on juice. I feel completely satisfied with this set up and have no desire to go lower ohms.

 

[volume control]

No you are not the only one.

It is the temperature of the coil that is relevant.

And the surface area of coil in contact with eliquid as well


OP, for example if you were to make another coil at 1.8ohm, and run 2 coils in your device for .9ohm total, then provide the same voltage (in effect increasing the wattage substantially because you want your coils to both reach the same temperature of your single coil setup) Then you should without doubt get denser vapor!


And final point is your ohm rating of coil be it subohm or multiple ohm, it is your temp and surface area in contact with eliquid of the coil that is significant. You do not HAVE to run subohm to get the "best" vape, especially when the entire concept is a matter of personal preference

 

[treehead]

I tried a 3 ohm nano coil on my RSST and that was a serious vape ( 11W setting)... there is something going on with this nano technology..

I hear that killer, by far my favorite wrap until the next big thing. As I've said in this post I swear it all comes down to surface area, which is what those nano/micro's are for basically. More metal on liquid can't be a bad thing!

 

[treehead]

I presume that is 6.81 watts ?

Yezzir! Usually my sweet spot on the money if their aren't any extremes involved.

 

[treehead]

And the surface area of coil in contact with eliquid as well


OP, for example if you were to make another coil at 1.8ohm, and run 2 coils in your device for .9ohm total, then provide the same voltage (in effect increasing the wattage substantially because you want your coils to both reach the same temperature of your single coil setup) Then you should without doubt get denser vapor!


And final point is your ohm rating of coil be it subohm or multiple ohm, it is your temp and surface area in contact with eliquid of the coil that is significant. You do not HAVE to run subohm to get the "best" vape, especially when the entire concept is a matter of personal preference

You said it! And I said it earlier too , I'm a big fan of surface area. Einstein and I don't get how less coil surface area=better vape. Then again If I want to showoff at the local vape-lounge (which I don't care about anymore to be honest) I'll make a special sub-ohm coil for that purpose, just not for my pleasure vaping