I don't know, but I'd rather not vape something prepared by someone who didn't wash their hands after vooping.
Am I the only person who has a problem with ppl making juice in their homes?
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As have I and I agree. Please remember if you find my earlier post that I am for self regulation in the industry. I was responding to a post on why I wouldn't buy eliquid from someone who made it in their kitchen. The answer was from me personally. Each individual is free to make her/his decision on where to buy theirs. I hold no judgement where when or how someone else decides to make their purchase.
When we sold our house on long island many years ago. The inspector came out to inspect it. 2 Benjamins latter he told me to replace a faceplate on an outlet and I was good. My wife looked at me. I looked at her and said "money talks".
When asked my opinion in a discussion I give it. People are free to do with it what they wish. Feel free to call me silly. It still won't change what I choose to do. I mainly diy but have recently made some mbv purchases. I can't tell you if they mix it in a spittoon or an immaculate mixing facility. It was my choice.
Id like to make the point that your comments are irreverent to the convo going on and incendiary towards the people involved.
We all have choices to make, however many people make the wrong ones because they don't know any better, are misinformed, and often mislead or in other cases want to mislead others.
I sure don't want to buy some basement made liquid from a shop that's not being honest about where it came from. Anyone can open a pretty store, import all there liquid or buy it from Joe juicers basement, slap a made in USA label on it cause they stirred together the liquids, make up some story about their sterile lab they don't have, and sell you whatever they bottle. Hey there's no regulations so it doesn't matter what they add to it, its legal, so who cares. If it kills you or causes long term illness sorry for you,maybe you should have known there was risks, opps we used rat poision sorry the bucket of liquid we imported said nicotine our mistake, here's a free bottle see you again.
I sure don't want to buy some basement made liquid from a shop that's not being honest about where it came from. Anyone can open a pretty store, import all there liquid or buy it from Joe juicers basement, slap a made in USA label on it cause they stirred together the liquids, make up some story about their sterile lab they don't have, and sell you whatever they bottle. Hey there's no regulations so it doesn't matter what they add to it, its legal, so who cares. If it kills you or causes long term illness sorry for you,maybe you should have known there was risks, opps we used rat poision sorry the bucket of liquid we imported said nicotine our mistake, here's a free bottle see you again.
I have no problems with kitchen mixers. I don't buy to much anyways as I mix my own. I also cook my meat more the past 10 years than I ever have in my life. After smoking cigarettes for 42 years I have bigger concerns in my life to possibly worry about.
You keep saying the same thing. No one is forcing you to buy any liquid. At all. You have many choices of vendors to frequent who clearly list the ingredients used. Regulation would not solve any of this. The argument you are making involves false advertising which can be handled via the judicial system. You paint a dystopian e liquid market place where consumers are forced to purchase from unscrupulous vendors who want to poison their customers. This is not how it works and is frankly insulting. Really if you are this worried you should just quit vaping. It will never be 100% safe.
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I find it very disturbing, its a wild west market where folks can make a quick buck without the concern of others and it honestly pisses me off. Its also disturbing the amount of vape shops opening up selling mech mods with crap batteries and sub-par builds with junk clone batteries without a second though of any dangers or repercussions. Its no wonder that the FDA and government are looking to regulate vaping.
Its just a matter of time before something really bad happens and goes viral to really cast a shadow on vaping and make it look like a monster hiding in a closet. Sadly when it happens all of the benefits of vaping vs smoking will have no merit in a lot of folks eyes. Im dabbling in DIY juice but its for my own use and to share a bit with co-workers, free of course.
Its just a matter of time before something really bad happens and goes viral to really cast a shadow on vaping and make it look like a monster hiding in a closet. Sadly when it happens all of the benefits of vaping vs smoking will have no merit in a lot of folks eyes. Im dabbling in DIY juice but its for my own use and to share a bit with co-workers, free of course.
No your wrong. The point is there are just no rules and that's dangerous to the public and it's insulting that anyone can bottle anything and sell it as e liquid.
That's uncalled for. I have done nothing of the sort. Try not to insult others. OK.
I totally agree with this. In fact an incident already happened not too long ago at some vape convention. I'm surprised someone has not been sued yet.
Please explain how I'm wrong. If I sell you something and misrepresent what it is then I will get sued. And rightfully so. Do you not understand how the legal system works? And once again if you feel it is that dangerous then don't buy it. Common sense.
Perhaps you should start another thread about the merits if a law suit or consult a attorney. Let's stay on topic.
Or you could head over to the FDA part of this forum and discuss it there. Off topic? How my response to you off topic?
I understand. But, note that I wasn't responding with my take on your entire post, just the part about how the stomach and the lungs process contaminants differently. But, like I alluded to earlier, I was all about wanting my liquids to come from a lab -- until I got over my unfounded fears. I say unfounded because the fears weren't based on anything vape-related, but more related to food.
I started this thread a couple years ago: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...essage-e-liquid-vendors-what-we-want-you.html. I still believe in a good majority of the stuff I and others said in that thread, but there are many things that I have either evolved on, grown up to, or just disregarded as not worth my energy to consider (unless given a reason).
I would never call you silly. You are just making your way through the vape-terrain like the rest of us. We each will traverse it how we must.
Yap, kids having cloud competitions are going to hurt this movement more then any e-juice ever does. Everyone of them wants to Sub, on their Trust-"FIRE" battery.
But you know, they`ll tax the crap out of the juice, that`s what this is all about. Regulation means tax`s. And we simply cant give those nut bags enough tax`s to satiate thier corrupt desires. The other side could care less if some one died from e cigs, all they care about is the tax`s that can be levied.
Vaping for me is simply a way to get me off and keep me off of cigarettes and the dangers of them, nothing more nothing less. I never want to see someone that doesnt know any better or hasnt been showed the proper precautions of battery safety getting hurt or harming some one around them. Proper education is the easiest and best precaution, of course with most things some folks just wont listen or simply dont care.
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