AMA calls for total ban on e-cigarettes
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“It’s simple, ... (blah, blah, blah).” Dr. Patrice Harris, AMA’s president, said in a statement.
Yes it is simple:
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Yes it is simple:
off!You know it's getting bad when the American Motorcycle Association is getting involved. What's next Narcotics Anonymous?
It is cutting into nicotine patch sales and kick backs from drug companies.....So of course they do
Harmful products stay on the market despite the deaths they cause. Alcohol, automobiles, motorcycles, and many other legal devices take lives, yet there's no call for those to be banned.
vaping as it is intended to be done saves the lives of many smokers. I understand that there are over 9 million vapers in the USA, many of which would have continued to smoke if it weren't for vaping. I'm one of those.
Before people started vaping CBD oil and vitamin E acetate there were no deaths in the last 10 years that could be blamed on vaping. The government should continue to educate the public and warn against vaping oil based products. Education saves lives. Vaping saves lives if done correctly. There's no solid reasoning for banning vaping.
Big Tobacco would love for vaping to be banned. They've already paved the way by giving money to the states for stop smoking education that is used for everything else besides educating the public about the dangers of smoking. It's strange that government loves big tobacco and discourages vaping, but it's all about the money. Vaping is poised to eventually put big tobacco out of business and BT knows that.
vaping as it is intended to be done saves the lives of many smokers. I understand that there are over 9 million vapers in the USA, many of which would have continued to smoke if it weren't for vaping. I'm one of those.
Before people started vaping CBD oil and vitamin E acetate there were no deaths in the last 10 years that could be blamed on vaping. The government should continue to educate the public and warn against vaping oil based products. Education saves lives. Vaping saves lives if done correctly. There's no solid reasoning for banning vaping.
Big Tobacco would love for vaping to be banned. They've already paved the way by giving money to the states for stop smoking education that is used for everything else besides educating the public about the dangers of smoking. It's strange that government loves big tobacco and discourages vaping, but it's all about the money. Vaping is poised to eventually put big tobacco out of business and BT knows that.
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I think the AMA is afraid of losing customers, or patients! Less cancer and heart disease caused by smoking means less disease...less doctors needed. Too bad! We feel better and we aren't sick!
Interesting. My doc says vaping hasn’t been studied enough and he wouldn’t be putting a lot of thought into my vaping hobby.
My doctor thinks vaping is fine. He's just happy that I put down the cigarettes after I bought my first vape and at the end of 9 1/2 years I'm still vaping and not smoking. He's seen my X-rays and CT scans and they are clear and normal as a result of quitting smoking.
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My reaction to the AMA:
The AMA cites a surge in underage teen use of e-cigarettes as a reason for calling for a total ban on e-cigarettes. Really? Yet more teens use alcohol, tobacco, and marijuana, than those who vape e-cigarettes according to a recent study done by the FDA. It thought the AMA based their public policies on science, not on knee jerk political positions. Maybe I was wrong.
Experimenting once, twice, or even a few times with an e-cigarette for curiosity's sake does not fall into the category of an "epidemic". I experimented with a lot of adult things before I was 21 but that didn't make me an addict or even a "user". I moved on.
“It’s simple, we must keep nicotine products out of the hands of young people.” Dr. Patrice Harris, AMA’s president, said in a statement. The Vaping Trade Association agrees that nicotine products must be kept out of the hands of young people. Members of this group promote strict age verification like adult vape shops use.
However, e-cigarettes made and sold by Big Tobacco companies such as Juul, Blu, and Vuse, who together own at least 60% of the vape market, sell their products in gas stations and convenience stores which often don't use strict age verification. This allows kids easier access to their products.
Kids' desire to "Juul" is for the "head rush" they get from the unusually high nicotine in this specific product, and not for the flavors, which is often mistakenly attributed to their popularity among youth. The manufacturers of Juul, Blu, and Vuse are not members of the Vapor Trade Association.
The AMA also comments on the recent vape-related lung illnesses and deaths as a reason for their recommendation for a ban. The FDA and CDC have both publically stated that this crisis was caused from some users using black market THC cartridges sold on street corners, and had nothing to do with legal nicotine vape products sold in legitimate stores.
Such poor research by the AMA disqualifies their recommendation for an all out vaping ban, damages their credibility, and does a disservice to public health. Prohibition has never been a viable solution, it just creates a black market.
The UK's Public Health England has reported e-cigarettes are 95% safer than smoking tobacco cigarettes. 480,000 smokers die every year from the effects of smoking. In a decade of use, no one has died from the effects of vaping nicotine e-cigarettes and has saved at least 13 million lives by switching from tobacco cigarette use.
The AMA cites a surge in underage teen use of e-cigarettes as a reason for calling for a total ban on e-cigarettes. Really? Yet more teens use alcohol, tobacco, and marijuana, than those who vape e-cigarettes according to a recent study done by the FDA. It thought the AMA based their public policies on science, not on knee jerk political positions. Maybe I was wrong.
Experimenting once, twice, or even a few times with an e-cigarette for curiosity's sake does not fall into the category of an "epidemic". I experimented with a lot of adult things before I was 21 but that didn't make me an addict or even a "user". I moved on.
“It’s simple, we must keep nicotine products out of the hands of young people.” Dr. Patrice Harris, AMA’s president, said in a statement. The Vaping Trade Association agrees that nicotine products must be kept out of the hands of young people. Members of this group promote strict age verification like adult vape shops use.
However, e-cigarettes made and sold by Big Tobacco companies such as Juul, Blu, and Vuse, who together own at least 60% of the vape market, sell their products in gas stations and convenience stores which often don't use strict age verification. This allows kids easier access to their products.
Kids' desire to "Juul" is for the "head rush" they get from the unusually high nicotine in this specific product, and not for the flavors, which is often mistakenly attributed to their popularity among youth. The manufacturers of Juul, Blu, and Vuse are not members of the Vapor Trade Association.
The AMA also comments on the recent vape-related lung illnesses and deaths as a reason for their recommendation for a ban. The FDA and CDC have both publically stated that this crisis was caused from some users using black market THC cartridges sold on street corners, and had nothing to do with legal nicotine vape products sold in legitimate stores.
Such poor research by the AMA disqualifies their recommendation for an all out vaping ban, damages their credibility, and does a disservice to public health. Prohibition has never been a viable solution, it just creates a black market.
The UK's Public Health England has reported e-cigarettes are 95% safer than smoking tobacco cigarettes. 480,000 smokers die every year from the effects of smoking. In a decade of use, no one has died from the effects of vaping nicotine e-cigarettes and has saved at least 13 million lives by switching from tobacco cigarette use.
My neurologist is the assistant chief of staff at the hospital he's affiliated with. He told me that one day he was having lunch with the pulmonologists and he brought up the subject of vaping (this was maybe close to a year ago). To a man, they said that even though they don't know what a vapers lung will look like in 20 years, they do know what a smokers lung will look like in 20 years. So he told me that he'd rather not see me do either one (he is my doctor), but if I was going to do one or the other, he'd rather see me vaping than smoking.
Almost 6 yrs ago my doctor suggested I try e-cigs saying a lot of his patients had quit using them. Of course I told him they don't work, best advice that was ever given to me. 5 yrs 4 months smoke free. 
Me and my Dr. agree to not discuss it after I chastised him one time on his ignorance regarding the subject. He simply asks, still not smoking? I say yes, still not smoking, and it's been 6-1/2 years now...
From that link...
“It’s simple, we must keep nicotine products out of the hands of young people.” Dr. Patrice Harris, AMA’s president, said in a statement.
Funny how our friend Pat didn't include Regular Cigarettes in her Ban.
Guess she thinks we are doing a Stellar job of keeping those out of the Hands of Young People.
Repeat of what I posted on another thread (sorry those who read it once,but bears repeating...)
If it makes you feel better, the majority of practicing physicians don’t believe in them either. Read down for membership %s. What’s scary is the number of med students and residents (post grad) they’re feeding this load of **** to.
Don't Believe AMA's Hype, Membership Still Declining
If it makes you feel better, the majority of practicing physicians don’t believe in them either. Read down for membership %s. What’s scary is the number of med students and residents (post grad) they’re feeding this load of **** to.
Don't Believe AMA's Hype, Membership Still Declining
My husbands Doctor who's treating him for COPD has told him to keep doing whatever it is that he's doing because it seems to have stopped the worsening of the disease. Obviously it's not going to heal it's COPD but it isn't getting worse like it was before he started vaping instead of smoking
So the AMAs endorsing cigarette smoking de facto. Remember doctors used to tell people to smoke cigarettes. They were in advertisements talkin about the smooth and light stress-reducing qualities of cigarette smoking and don't forget ladies you can lose weight. It wasn't that long ago when a doctor advised me to start smoking Light cigarettes instead of full flavor. Doctors and big tobacco have always gone hand-in-hand. And it's no surprise that the AMA who is also against harm reduction in general from some of the things that they have come out against and he seemed to have a very puritanical approach to things are going in that direction.
If it makes you all feel any better the AMA is getting absolutely trashed on their FB page over all of this. There's vapers on all or their posts shooting from the hip with the facts and they look like absolute fools for making this statement.
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