Amazed at the Reluctance...

[EddieAdams]

Some funny stuff people. Can hear that conversation Boiler. The larger mods do look like something you'd "smoke" from. I see the up front costs putting some off but, if you had cartons of Marlboros for $70 a piece they'd take 3 without batting an eye here in NY. I also used my $100 investment of a kit and some liquid as motivation kind of.
I just don't get smokers I know who say they would like to quit not trying this at least. Have one of the other fathers in my son's boy scout troop trying the patch and no where near quitting. He has 1 a day on average then falls off and has 5 in one day.
Wouldn't a rational person that is already in the process, look at someone like me who really was a smoker and loved smoking that quit rather easily in the scheme of things and say let me try that....

 

[Dave L]

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I would have been delighted if someone had offered me a "loaner" or starter kit. I went into vaping cold, with absolutely NO knowledge and armed only with hope.

Ditto. I tried a cheap no-name e-cig a year or so ago and was not able to quit. It ended up in a drawer, though my wife still hits it occasionally. It took the realization that we were spending an ungodly amount per year on tobacco PLUS the opening of a B&M vape store near me to get me to take the leap. I probably would never have ordered an unknown (to me) product online before talking to a knowledgeable and helpful person about it. Now that I know more, I will order online but I don't think I'd ever have started there.

 

[astounded]

I know I wouldn't have tried it as an easier option for quitting because in my heart of hearts I never wanted to quite smoking even though I knew it was likely to kill me. A lot of times I would answer "yes, I know I've got to quit smoking" or "yes, I'm going to try to quit in a while" and then later when I was inhaling my smoke would think "no way do I want to give this up". I had one morning a week when I couldn't smoke for quite a long time and I used the gum and spray to help me through it.

I found the spray to be the most effective aid of the NRTs I've tried as at least I could feel some easing of my nic craving, but going home afterwards and smoking up a storm as usual (to make up for the missed cigarettes of course) and blissfully experiencing the sensation of the smoke going down my throat I remember thinking "I would miss this sensation". Strangely enough, this was about a week before my first introduction to an ecig ...

A friend driving by saw me out with my dog and stopped to chat ... to be polite I put out my cigarette as she was getting out of her vehicle as I didn't think she smoked. We chatted a few minutes then she very tentatively said "you smoke, right?" and when I said yes she said, again tentatively, "have you ever thought about trying to quit?" I said "yes, one of these days maybe ..." and she said let me show you something, ran to her vehicle and came back with an ego passthrough. She told me she quit smoking 5 years ago but had started up again recently and was using this to quit - she showed me how the button worked and said "try it" so mainly to be polite I did ... nice vanilla flavor, actually got to inhale and exhale ... I thought "that's not bad". She told me it was less than $40 and then you just refilled the juice, and to email her if I wanted the link to a nearbly online vendor where she got it.

Later continuing my walk I thought this was not too expensive and would be a more satisfying alternative for the morning I couldn't smoke ... I also thought about my constant tendency to have a cigarette going all the time (work mostly from home) even though sometimes I would only get a few drags off it if I was busy doing something. I figured if I could just cut down on the "wasted" cigarettes it would be a great money saver and pay for itself over time.

So by the time I returned from my walk I had decided to get one; I emailed her and she sent me the info regarding the vendor's site.

Well ... I could not make head nor tails out of it! The vendor has a good site too with things explained quite well - but let's face it if you have no idea in the world about ecigs it can be pretty overwhelming. I tried about three times to figure out what was "the black thing" that my friend had - I would have just given up but by this time it was getting personal that I couldn't figure out what to order so I was riled up. Finally I emailed her asking what it was she had ordered and bless her heart she sent me the detailed order statement with the full names/prices/etc. I just ordered exactly what she had ordered ... with the exception that she had ordered the 11mg which I noticed was the lowest other than zero nic. I wasn't sure if that it made sense for such a heavy nic addict as myself to go for the lowest strength so I googled trying to find out any equivalencies (how I found ECF initially!). Ended up going for the highest they had in the vanilla which was 18mg. That was too low for me it turned out - but even so it was significant enough that without even trying or noticing I had reduced from a pack and a half to about 8 which I only realized about the second day in - and I had only fired up the darned thing so that I could figure out how to use it before my next morning of smoke restriction!

Sorry - probably way too much information! I guess what I really wanted to convey (after this long divergence!) is that:
- I wouldn't/didn't believe it could possibly be as effective as my friend conveyed - not for ME anyways
- I didn't really WANT to quit smoking - I just thought it was such a pity that smoking was so lethal
- I KNEW I couldn't quit smoking and was completely accepting of the fact that they would probably bury me with a cigarette in my mouth

... so I realize that I probably would have been one of those smokers just not interested in hearing about the ecig except for having experienced that I could actually blow smoke rings when I inhaled my friend's passthrough and the vanilla taste was pretty nice, and the coincidence that I was looking into inhalers etc to get me through my non-smoking morning.

I'm not quite sure why smokers who are actively trying to quit would be resistant - think I'll just say "Wow, I really admire you - if it wasn't for the fact that my ecig made it so EASY and PAINLESS I would never have stuck with it!"

Sorry for the long post!

 

[lissa5168]

I would LOVE for my husband to get into this. He is just not having it. Did talk him into going to a local vape-meet with me at the end of the month. Hopefully he will be swayed by some of their cool non-girly stuff. I can't stand the smell of his Marlboros any more.

Sent by my super-secret messenger owl using Tapatalk 2

 

[mecocina]

I am forever grateful to my sis Div who told me about e-cigs. She held my hand so to speak through FB chat, told me about e-cigs and ECF. Information overload for days reading on here. I was so excited when my KR808 kit came in. Little did I realize that I would become a juice hoarder, now it's all about the batts LOL. Hey whatever it takes to keep me off cigarettes is okay in my book.

 

[EddieAdams]

I've got one! Gave a friend my original ego c batteries 650mAh and some liquid. Has taken it upon herself to order some pink atomizer bodies and some liquid. Thus far has cut her habit in half. It's a start. Baby steps.

 

[EddieAdams]

I know I wouldn't have tried it as an easier option for quitting because in my heart of hearts I never wanted to quite smoking even though I knew it was likely to kill me. A lot of times I would answer "yes, I know I've got to quit smoking" or "yes, I'm going to try to quit in a while" and then later when I was inhaling my smoke would think "no way do I want to give this up". I had one morning a week when I couldn't smoke for quite a long time and I used the gum and spray to help me through it.

I found the spray to be the most effective aid of the NRTs I've tried as at least I could feel some easing of my nic craving, but going home afterwards and smoking up a storm as usual (to make up for the missed cigarettes of course) and blissfully experiencing the sensation of the smoke going down my throat I remember thinking "I would miss this sensation". Strangely enough, this was about a week before my first introduction to an ecig ...

A friend driving by saw me out with my dog and stopped to chat ... to be polite I put out my cigarette as she was getting out of her vehicle as I didn't think she smoked. We chatted a few minutes then she very tentatively said "you smoke, right?" and when I said yes she said, again tentatively, "have you ever thought about trying to quit?" I said "yes, one of these days maybe ..." and she said let me show you something, ran to her vehicle and came back with an ego passthrough. She told me she quit smoking 5 years ago but had started up again recently and was using this to quit - she showed me how the button worked and said "try it" so mainly to be polite I did ... nice vanilla flavor, actually got to inhale and exhale ... I thought "that's not bad". She told me it was less than $40 and then you just refilled the juice, and to email her if I wanted the link to a nearbly online vendor where she got it.

Later continuing my walk I thought this was not too expensive and would be a more satisfying alternative for the morning I couldn't smoke ... I also thought about my constant tendency to have a cigarette going all the time (work mostly from home) even though sometimes I would only get a few drags off it if I was busy doing something. I figured if I could just cut down on the "wasted" cigarettes it would be a great money saver and pay for itself over time.

So by the time I returned from my walk I had decided to get one; I emailed her and she sent me the info regarding the vendor's site.

Well ... I could not make head nor tails out of it! The vendor has a good site too with things explained quite well - but let's face it if you have no idea in the world about ecigs it can be pretty overwhelming. I tried about three times to figure out what was "the black thing" that my friend had - I would have just given up but by this time it was getting personal that I couldn't figure out what to order so I was riled up. Finally I emailed her asking what it was she had ordered and bless her heart she sent me the detailed order statement with the full names/prices/etc. I just ordered exactly what she had ordered ... with the exception that she had ordered the 11mg which I noticed was the lowest other than zero nic. I wasn't sure if that it made sense for such a heavy nic addict as myself to go for the lowest strength so I googled trying to find out any equivalencies (how I found ECF initially!). Ended up going for the highest they had in the vanilla which was 18mg. That was too low for me it turned out - but even so it was significant enough that without even trying or noticing I had reduced from a pack and a half to about 8 which I only realized about the second day in - and I had only fired up the darned thing so that I could figure out how to use it before my next morning of smoke restriction!

Sorry - probably way too much information! I guess what I really wanted to convey (after this long divergence!) is that:
- I wouldn't/didn't believe it could possibly be as effective as my friend conveyed - not for ME anyways
- I didn't really WANT to quit smoking - I just thought it was such a pity that smoking was so lethal
- I KNEW I couldn't quit smoking and was completely accepting of the fact that they would probably bury me with a cigarette in my mouth

... so I realize that I probably would have been one of those smokers just not interested in hearing about the ecig except for having experienced that I could actually blow smoke rings when I inhaled my friend's passthrough and the vanilla taste was pretty nice, and the coincidence that I was looking into inhalers etc to get me through my non-smoking morning.

I'm not quite sure why smokers who are actively trying to quit would be resistant - think I'll just say "Wow, I really admire you - if it wasn't for the fact that my ecig made it so EASY and PAINLESS I would never have stuck with it!"

Sorry for the long post!

That's a lot of" post". Think that might be a good approach with the " patch" guy. Feed his ego a bit. I see how you women work... crafty.. very crafty..

 

[astounded]

That's a lot of" post". Think that might be a good approach with the " patch" guy. Feed his ego a bit. I see how you women work... crafty.. very crafty..

You bet! The world is very lucky that we're also soft-hearted but the next time you p,,, off a woman remember ... We have our ways ...

 

[T0rtitude]

My husband is convinced it's more harmful than smoking and won't quit. This is because even the tiniest bit of PG irritates him. He still gets paranoid even if I give him 100% VG. My favorite is my husband's boss though. They all like to drink & smoke in the shop on Fridays after the work day ends. He will tell me, "You don't know what's in those. At least you know what's in a cigarette." I whip out a bottle and say, "The ingredients are listed right here on the bottle. And it's made by a small business owner in America. You're a small business owner. Wouldn't you prefer to support other small businesses?" He's not having it lol.

 

[D4rk50ul]

I've always felt like forcing an ideal on someone will almost always fail. I've converted a ton of people mainly by sitting in the smoking area not saying a word about my pv. When they start asking questions is when I usually offer a simple loaner kr808d-1 with a few cartos to try. Pretty high success rate so far.

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[XeniaMike]

Most people I've talked to are interested, but lost about it. I try to simplify it a little for them so they don't get that glazed-over look of being overwhelmed.

There is one particularly disconcerting individual at work. Bull-headed as the day is long - it's her way or the highway and she knows all, but I still like her. She declares that I am still smoking even though I'm not doing analogs and that SHE is going directly to 0mg of nicotine and is really quitting. I just say "Best of luck to you." It's amazing how some folks don't even understand their own addiction. Well, to each their own I guess.

The best thing that really seems to get the folks I talk to interested, is the choice of flavors. They really want to know all about the different kinds. As soon as some of them see me now, the first thing they ask is "What flavor is it today?"

 

[bigbells]

and only have the good ones.(coffee,after a meal,se....)

Thanks

That kind of reasoning never did appeal to me. They were ALL good ones. But now, my electronic ones are BETTER ones.

 

[DaveP]

The antifreeze publication by the FDA in 2009 really took off in the news and people picked up on it and spread it widely. Then, there was the diethylene contaminated Ruyan sample from a shipment seized off a boat from China. If your vendor uses USP grade components to mix juice, then it's the FDA's fault if you don't get what's advertised in your juice. They approved it.

I really don't have many friends who still smoke. The publicity of late has been good for ecigs and I don't hear the negative comments anymore. Recently, there was an announcement from a medical source (I think the CDC) that said ecigs may prevent vapers from developing flu and other respiratory diseases due to the inhalation of PG.

Still, some people ask me, "When are you going to quit the ecig?". I just tell them one day when I get tired of it. Right now, there's no pressing reason to do so and I like vaping.

 

[vernhall]

Again, self-improvement is something that has to originate in the person, nobody can provide that inspiration or motivation for another.

When and if they are ready, they will try vaping.

Sad but true! It has to start with the individual... When they've finally made up their mind that they're tired of smoking they may, or may not, give vaping a try... Look at yourself really - you weren't ready until you were ready and once you were ready you were... Regardless of how wonderful we think vaping is, and it is in my opinion, you can't force someone else to see the light until they're ready...

 

[EddieAdams]

My husband is convinced it's more harmful than smoking and won't quit. This is because even the tiniest bit of PG irritates him. He still gets paranoid even if I give him 100% VG. My favorite is my husband's boss though. They all like to drink & smoke in the shop on Fridays after the work day ends. He will tell me, "You don't know what's in those. At least you know what's in a cigarette." I whip out a bottle and say, "The ingredients are listed right here on the bottle. And it's made by a small business owner in America. You're a small business owner. Wouldn't you prefer to support other small businesses?" He's not having it lol.

That's just someone who doesn't want to quit smoking. Honestly,I would print out a list of total possible ingredients from reputable American e juice vendors then an entire list of all the ingredients, compounds, toxins, carcinogens,etc.... in cigarette smoke...I think a vendor like Johnson Creek has a total of 21 ingredients...
Then just hold the two up beside one another

"I can't even pronounce half these ingredients"

 

[EddieAdams]

That kind of reasoning never did appeal to me. They were ALL good ones. But now, my electronic ones are BETTER ones.

Very true. I have come to enjoy my PV more than analogs.
I was a pack-a day camel light smoker. Guess I was referring to the back to back cigs you might have because your going to be somewhere where you can't. Or just because I started my car back up even though I just had one minutes ago when I turned my car off...

 

[grandmato5]

I'd read about electronic cigarettes 2-3 years before I decided to purchase my first one. Those that haven't tried vaping yet are no different then I was. They looked rediculous and I couldn't imagine them being anything more then a gimmick that would disappear in a short time.

The combination of increasing no smoking rules everywhere, my husband who doesn't smoke anymore coughing when I was smoking in the closed car in the winter, and increasing cost of cigarettes in NYS was finally enough reason for me to purchase my first ecig to use some of the times I used to smoke. I had no intention of totally quitting smoking when I ordered

All we can do is let people see and hear our great success with using our ecigs and offer our help if THEY choose to want to give them a try

 

[VapingRulz]

I suspect that smokers may be reluctant to try vaping because they're afraid it won't work any better than the other methods they've tried, like patches and gum. Quitting used to be such an awful experience before vaping came along. I think the hard core smokers need to see more smokers successfully switching to vaping before they'll believe how well it works. It helps when a smoker tries vaping and has an amazing experience but given how difficult it is to find one's own unique sweet spot with vaping, that's often difficult.

 

[bigbells]

Most people I've talked to are interested, but lost about it. I try to simplify it a little for them so they don't get that glazed-over look of being overwhelmed.

There is one particularly disconcerting individual at work. Bull-headed as the day is long - it's her way or the highway and she knows all, but I still like her. She declares that I am still smoking even though I'm not doing analogs and that SHE is going directly to 0mg of nicotine and is really quitting. I just say "Best of luck to you." It's amazing how some folks don't even understand their own addiction. Well, to each their own I guess.

The best thing that really seems to get the folks I talk to interested, is the choice of flavors. They really want to know all about the different kinds. As soon as some of them see me now, the first thing they ask is "What flavor is it today?"

You are the type of ambassador for vaping that is most effective. Not sure that I have your patience. Vaping was suggested to me, less than 8 weeks ago, by my baby brother, who has neither smoked nor vaped in his whole life. However, I didn't know the first thing about it until his email inspired me to investigate the possibilities.

 

[Faylool]

I do offer info and explain some benefits. If they keep asking in a hungry for knowledge way I give as much info as I can while repeating it sounds complicated but really it's very easy just new and different. If someone wants to quit they will try it. The people who think they are better than you because they don't need a crutch a quit are not as likely to succeed statistically speaking but if they do mor empower to them. Yes, it is frustrating when they buy a $9.00 cig a like and it does it crappy thing and dies in two days even though they've been been warned but if they really want to quit they keep trying. I had friend wanting a cigarette because he was out I offered him vape and that was a negative so I offered him snuff and that was something new to him. I showed him how to do it using nice big supply ( feeling a little perverse ) and it was a strong one. I know, kinda mean but when he was done freaking out I asked if it worked and he said yes but no more! and I'm quitting smoking! Probably not true.... And I love snuff ( English Indian German) it packs a hit that nothing else can without any nausea but it does assault the nose! I sure leave go any quitting smoking conversation when they do the excuses thing. Waste of breath