@53: Mr Hutchinson said Controversy does help a product get known. He obviously believes in the old adage that there is no such thing as bad publicity. Unless of course its your own obituary.
@105: He talks of clones and fake products and blames the the machine shop for cutting corners and using mixed metals. Surely if that was in fact true and if he had had a contractually binding agreement with an American company, he would have had his legal eagle all over them like a bad case of measles. Hmmmm..strange smell around here.
Following on, if Ameravape did have this legit contract then why havent they started litigation and instituted a court order enforcing the supervised destruction of the so-called QC failures? Is it because the machine shop is not under US jurisdiction? Or maybe it is but perhaps AV reneged on the deal for whatever reason and the machine shop feels they have a right to recover their losses caused by AVs withdrawal.
@345: Check with us, there have been some fakes thrown out onto the market. If that is true then surely AV should have explained to folk what exactly these fakes were i.e. their trash and warned of their instability and possible danger. A lack of ethics to say the least. That smells getting stronger.
@350: About 3,000 mods out there maybe more, I dont know. How very indefinite Mr Hutchinson. I dont suppose being so allows you to lay grounds that any future variations of the Manhattan might be dangerous.
@350 and a bit: Following on from what Mr Hutchinson said and perhaps what he didnt say, one could quite easily gather that AV is in fact not a mod maker but a group of guys who have all chipped into the pot to form a paper company to make a fast buck. Tread wary Mr Hutchinson, bucks tend to have horns and might just turn around and stick you.
@428: We are being proactive with it. I.e. reference to withdrawing the Manhattan. Sorry Mr Hutchinson you are doing as prescribed by your insurance company to keep you afloat. Thats being reactive not proactive. Your chance to be proactive was when Todd/P-Vaper first contacted AV asking about venting via the switch etc.
@455: Take a deep breath that was a very long story. Story? It sounded more like Grimms Fairy Tales and we know they werent true either.
@510: P-Vaper, amazing shop, great guys. Really? This amazing shop does not exist Mr Hutchinson. The P-Vaper website gives no verifiable address and contains only a mobile number to call and a contact person as one Penguin Vaper. It commenced as a business 22nd April this year. Thirteen weeks ago. Ripe for a quick getaway if required Id say. Certainly not a site I would recommend doing business with.
However, with a little bit of digging, it can be established that the P-Vaper address is in fact part of a 2-up, 2-down house in a residential road of terraced houses, many of which have metal gates protecting the front entrance doors. Draw from that what you will as to the type of neighbourhood. I say part because the actual house is divided into two apartments. So, basically it would appear that P-Vaper conducts company business from an upstairs bedroom. From small acorns large oaks grow I guess.
@520: They (P-Vaper) sent one of their brass Manhattans over to Todd for Todds reviews. I dont know if he bought it from them. I dont know if they just sent it to them. They just did it on their own. Mr Hutchinson, you know exactly how that mod got into Todds hands.
Reason No.1 being, there is no way on Gods earth you have not contacted Amir Saeed at P-Vaper since the furore you caused over Todds review. Likewise, there is no way that you did not discuss how Todd became in possession of the mod. Reason No.2 being that you immediately follow on by saying I watched the review and 90%...blah blah. Therefore Mr Hutchinson, you heard Todd clearly say it had been sent to him for review. More porky pies Mr Hutchinson? Why, on something so inconsequential? Thats something only inveterate liars do.
Here we arrive at what is possibly the crux of the matter as far as AV are concerned and that is ye old pipe bomb comment. To me, a pipe bomb is a sealed metal tube containing an explosive material and a detonator (be it manually or remotely controlled) and was ostensibly designed as an anti-personnel weapon.
Knowing the explositivity of Li-ion and more so Li-Po, are not all mods a pipe bomb to some degree once a battery has been inserted? To me, the detonator or fuse is the design and quality of build coupled with the care and maintenance exhibited the end user.
Now, for Mr Hutchinson and any newer vapers who are unaware of the explosive potential of certain types and makes of Li-ion or Li-Po batteries under certain conditions, I would just ask you to watch this video.
What you dont see or appreciate in the video, is firstly the building of temperature which starts as soon as the short is activated by bridging the positive nipple to the side or casing of the cell. Secondly, the toxic gases exuding from the cell as the temperature rises, which can be seen as a kind of heat haze exiting the cell. By the time the molten innards start to dribble down the side, the temperature is in excess of 200o C and still rising.
A few things come to mind here Mr Hutchinson. By constructing a mod that is what, some three plus times the thickness of normal tubes, how much longer is it before a vaper might get some indication of a short other than the normal way we have done up till now, which is by a burning sensation on your leg if the mod is in a pocket, or by hand if being held? Is that already very short warning time reduced by the mods extra wall thickness? I assume you have tested it and have the figures to prove it?
In your mod, how do these non-35psi toxic and inflammable gases exit the tube? The standard way till now has always been through ventilation hole/s through the end cap into the battery compartment, or on one or two mods, similarly holes adjacent to the 510 connector at the top of the battery compartment.
Bearing in mind the larger capacity cell the larger the explosion, is your mod capable of containing the force exerted by this sudden release of energy? I assume you have tested it and have the figures to prove it?
Oh bums, Ive had enough. I did for some stupid reason intend to go through the whole of the interview itemising all the glaring lies and contradictions but I admit defeat. Ive lost the will to live.
Mr Hutchinson, you are nothing, to use an old English word, but a charlatan. I wont wish you goodnight but rather long may you have nightmares over AVs loss. You have nobody to blame but yourself.
