Analog additives make it harder to quit?

[RicksBeach]

Two years ago I switched to American Spirit Organic cigs and noticed within a week that most of my coughing had quit. Before I made this switch I had failed in my attempts to quit smoking...I used patches, gum, and anti-depressants. I could make it a day or two but eventually I would drive past a store that I knew had cigarettes inside and I would stop and buy a pack. My habit stretched for 30 years at 1 ppd.

Since switching to the organic Spirits I hadn't tried to quit until I got my vaping set-up about 6 weeks ago. No trouble quitting whatsoever. No urge to stop at the convenience store. I really believe that the additives played a major role in the difficulty to quit. I had gone two years without them (additives) and consider this one of the major factors in quitting...the other major factor was vaping.

Now, six weeks in, I'm mixing my own Capella's flavors to 0 nic pg/vg and really enjoying the flavors much more that the hit or miss premixed stuff I started on. Still using a 12mg juice about 1/3 of the time but I'm gradually phasing it out...and without even noticing any withdrawl symptoms.

Does anyone else think that the big tobacco additives are as much of a factor as nicotine when trying to quit?

 

[grandmato5]

No doubt in my mind that the additives in the cigarettes played a large role in my addiction to nic and smoking. Without the additives any longer, breaking the addiction to nic went amazingly smoothly. I do still have what I consider an addiction to the actions of vaping. That's my next hurdle to get over.

 

[Slea]

I switched to American Spirits, too. I figured I could work on the additives that way, plus, the higher price might be extra incentive.

Unfortunately, the psychological addiction was such that I still smoked about 4-6 American Spirits a day, along with vaping, for about a year and a quarter.

I've been vaping only, though for over 6 months!

 

[Aaeli]

I can't say with 100% certainty if it was the psychological dependence or a physical dependence on other chemicals but I know I had to work hard to put aside cigarettes for vaping. I had a few months of doing both until I finally just forced myself to make the change.

 

[MsOceanCity]

I can't say with 100% certainty if it was the psychological dependence or a physical dependence on other chemicals but I know I had to work hard to put aside cigarettes for vaping. I had a few months of doing both until I finally just forced myself to make the change.

Same here. I cut down from 15 alalogs/day to 3, within the first 2 weeks of vaping but it took me 15 whole months to give them up completely. I was using 36mg juice too! The first 10 days, analog free, were difficult but it's hard for me to say whether it was just psychlogical or physical. Prolly a little of both.

 

[RicksBeach]

Wow, I guess I'm one of the very lucky ones as far as quitting analogs by vaping goes. I'm down to vaping the equivalent of 4mg juice after 6 weeks and not noticing any effects/withdrawl. Due to the ease of my progression when compared to my difficulties in the past I was of the opinion that the additives may have been more addictive than the nicotine. Nonetheless, I still consider that my first step in quitting occurred when I switched to the additive free Spirits two years ago. Good Luck everyone!

 

[Stubby]

I put the urban legend that BT is making cigarettes more addictive in the same trash pile as PV's have radiator fluid in them. This rumor was started by anti-tobacco fanatics to try and demonize tobacco companies. The actual evidence has always been slim to none. I smoked high quality roll your own tobacco for many years before I quit and there is no difference in the addiction between that and ready rolls.

I know a number of people who use RYO tobacco under the illusion that it is not as bad for you or less addictive and it's junk science at it's worst. Also dangerous as roll you own, organic, or unprocessed cigarettes are every bit as harmful as Marlboros or Camels.

Tobacco companies do a lot of stuff to the tobacco but that is largely for consistency of the product. Tobacco can change from year to year with growing conditions so a good deal of processing is done so the end product taste essentially the same from year to year.

 

[RicksBeach]

Sounds like you trust Big Tobacco much more than I do. Do they really need someone to demonize them? It looks like they've already done that on their own.
I haven't researched whether additives are addictive and I haven't studied any reports of those who have...I'm only speaking of my own experiences and what my body is telling me. Based on that and that only, I do think the additives are addictive on their own or at the very least they enhance/strengthen the addiction to nicotine. If BT's research says it isn't true feel free to believe them but I don't.

 

[Hotwire]

BT most definitley manipulate the addatives in cigs to make them more addictive!

One of the most publicised was that they were adding amonia I think to make the nicotine in lights more effective in it's delivery and effects.

 

[Rachus]

I think so. Funny, I just posted something about this an hour ago, (didn't see this post until now)...

Great post bghouse, newpers (I think I made that up) like me are still reading this FYI.

I started vaping 28 hours ago, and after reading this post, consider myself very fortunate, but have been wondering something since I started. A little analogue background: 20 year smoker, mainly Marlb0r0 for about 15 years, then Winston for the last 5. I switched to Winston when they started their "No bull" campaign, which essentially is zero, equally addictive additives the tobacco companies got called out on at the time. So my thought process is this: perhaps some of the symptoms described by the subscribers here are actually withdrawl symptoms of those additives, as I've not had any of these symptoms. 24+ hours ago, I had in mind that I'd vape while on the clock at work, then analogue on breaks...but I didn't analogue at all; didn't need to. I hadn't decided to quit analogues yesterday -- I figured I wouldn't be able to, I just did (or at least have so far). So my post is getting TL;DR so I'll stop here. Food for thought perhaps to some.

 

[Hotwire]

28 hours and already making judgements lol.

Give it a month or two and then see where you are.

You're in the honeymoon phase at the moment.

 

[Rachus]

28 hours and already making judgements lol.

Give it a month or two and then see where you are.

You're in the honeymoon phase at the moment.

LOL, so true Hotwire, She blinded me with Science.

 

[Balcon Group]

Wow, I guess I'm one of the very lucky ones as far as quitting analogs by vaping goes. I'm down to vaping the equivalent of 4mg juice after 6 weeks and not noticing any effects/withdrawl. Due to the ease of my progression when compared to my difficulties in the past I was of the opinion that the additives may have been more addictive than the nicotine. Nonetheless, I still consider that my first step in quitting occurred when I switched to the additive free Spirits two years ago. Good Luck everyone!

Same thing with me.

 

[zoiDman]

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Does anyone else think that the big tobacco additives are as much of a factor as nicotine when trying to quit?

A.S. were the only cigarettes that I didn't chain smoke. It took about a pack to realize that is was all the crap they put into other cigarettes that what what was making me chain smoke.

I smoked A.S. for about a year before I decided to start vaping. It wasn't entirely painless for me to switch but I know I couldn't have done it if I had be smoking any other cigarette.