And another explosion hits the news

[Steamix]

T'is a bad one alright...

Some ANTZ angling there of course too - cornea transplants are routine surgeries, and other news sources talk of temporary blinding... Hope the kid recovers fully. Pretending to be of age or adult - I don't wish for anybody to get hurt. But life teaches us differently. While driving, while playing, and, and , ... and yes, while vaping.

Should remind the less savoury B&M owners that the quick buck and lack of knowledge ban backfire big.
This one , even the most incompetent ambulance chaser can milk to the last dime.

 

[Strangebrew]

14 years old in a vape shop?

 

[sofarsogood]

New York teen blinded by E-cigarette explosion

There are photos of the injuries in a video and video of the kid. I didn't get to watch,, on my way to work, but his face is all healed up. This happened a while ago. I wonder why the news sources don't report when it happened? It wasn't yesterday.

 

[skoony]

@sofarsogood I just did a google search of the headline from your link.
The oldest dated story I could find is 2 days old. I checked of few stories
and can not find any info as to the date of the actual incident.
It does seem amiss that this story wasn't headline news a lot sooner.
Regards
Mike
PS It's interesting to note this story is getting no play in Brooklyn.

Brooklyn NY news - Google Search

 

[Flt Simulation]

Here is another explosion here in Florida ... From: Miami Harold 28, Jan 2016

"E-cigarette exploded in Florida man’s mouth, lawsuit contends"

E-cigarette exploded in Florida man’s mouth, lawsuit contends

The news stated that the mod this man was using was called a "Rig Mod V2" ... (Made in the US)

 

[Robino1]

Here is another explosion here in Florida ... From: Miami Harold 28, Jan 2016

"E-cigarette exploded in Florida man’s mouth, lawsuit contends"

E-cigarette exploded in Florida man’s mouth, lawsuit contends

Googled the “Rig Mod V.2” that is mentioned in that article. Found the website: Vaping American Made Products The Rig V2 Hybrid Mechanical Mod

There are warnings all over that device. I wonder if those warnings were there before the accident or placed after the accident.

Either way. Damn.

 

[zoiDman]

Here is another explosion here in Florida ... From: Miami Harold 28, Jan 2016

"E-cigarette exploded in Florida man’s mouth, lawsuit contends"

E-cigarette exploded in Florida man’s mouth, lawsuit contends

The news stated that the mod this man was using was called a "Rig Mod V2" ... (Made in the US)

At least that Article sited the Mod that was used.

I believe this is the one...

Mods

 

[Oliver]

Here's a superb and comprehensive list of e-cig explosions in the media by Jason at EcigOne.

Frightening. This is not cellphones and laptops - this is different, and it needs to stop, or it will be stopped.

E-Cigarette Explosions: Comprehensive List - eCig One

I count 50 major incidents this year, and that's just the ones which make the press.

 

[sofarsogood]

@sofarsogood I just did a google search of the headline from your link.
The oldest dated story I could find is 2 days old. I checked of few stories
and can not find any info as to the date of the actual incident.
It does seem amiss that this story wasn't headline news a lot sooner.
Regards
Mike
PS It's interesting to note this story is getting no play in Brooklyn.

Brooklyn NY news - Google Search

Teen Partially Blinded After Vape Pen Explodes In His Face At Brooklyn Mall

Apparently it happened on April 5th. The story is it was "plugged in to the wrong battery". This would be a completely novel accident in my experience. At the end of the story a public agency seems to be saying that there was no violation of the law if there was no sale. What could the kid mean by plugged in to the wrong battery?

 

[Oliver]

Teen Partially Blinded After Vape Pen Explodes In His Face At Brooklyn Mall

Apparently it happened on April 5th. The story is it was "plugged in to the wrong battery". This would be a completely novel accident in my experience. At the end of the story a public agency seems to be saying that there was no violation of the law if there was no sale. What could the kid mean by plugged in to the wrong battery?

"Warning: Never use a short or flat 510 connection on any hybrid or hybrid style device. If unsure whether this pertains to your particular set-up, DO NOT assemble and use. Always use proper precautions and handling."

<<this, probably. (from the V2 Rig website)

 

[YoursTruli]

They do sell more advanced equipment if their Instagram account is anything to go by (ego stick style, fully mechanical to wismec 200's) and not surprisingly their Instagram is getting hit with backlash from this.

also from instagram.... Eliquid they sell (along with other well known national brands like suicide bunny) that was featured in the news video, Fox news, which BTW has taken this incident nationwide, it was in my local Ohio news feed on facebook along with national news ...it just keeps getting better and we can sit here trying to analyze these incidents but honestly IMHO it's the vape industry itself that is killing vaping.

 

[Flt Simulation]

Packaging "kids cereal" style vape juice certainly don't help matters either.

They even made the labels to visually attract kids!

 

[Lessifer]

They do sell more advanced equipment if their Instagram account is anything to go by (ego stick style, fully mechanical to wismec 200's) and not surprisingly their Instagram is getting hit with backlash from this.

also from instagram.... Eliquid they sell (along with other well known national brands like suicide bunny) that was featured in the news video, Fox news, which BTW has taken this incident nationwide, it was in my local Ohio news feed on facebook along with national news ...it just keeps getting better and we can sit here trying to analyze these incidents but honestly IMHO it's the vape industry itself that is killing vaping.

From that picture it actually looks like they've done what they can to avoid copyright and trademark infringement while providing products that fit recognizable flavor profiles.

Like I said, the focus will be what happened and not how, or how to prevent it without killing vaping.

So how do we get the word out about direct to battery connections and what is and is not safe to put on them? How do we get the word out about proper battery safety?

 

[Lessifer]

Packaging "kids cereal" style vape juice certainly don't help matters either.

They even made the labels to visually attract kids!

You're joking right? I know a vaper, pushing 40, and 90% of what he vapes is cereal flavors because that's the profile he likes. It's not marketing to kids, don't believe, or further, the hype.

 

[zoiDman]

Packaging "kids cereal" style vape juice certainly don't help matters either.

They even made the labels to visually attract kids!

I'm sure that is Something that Local, State and Federal Policy Makers would never Use Against Us.

 

[YoursTruli]

You're joking right? I know a vaper, pushing 40, and 90% of what he vapes is cereal flavors because that's the profile he likes. It's not marketing to kids, don't believe, or further, the hype.

I don't disagree with you in context, but, lets stop sticking our heads in the sand! Reality is the average person sees this as marketing to kids, period, it's kids cereal market directly to kids on TV daily, guilt by association. Saying otherwise and jumping on anyone that expresses this all too popular and reasonably expected view does NOT change that overall perception it just draws lines in the sand within the vaping community itself, nothing more.

 

[Lessifer]

I don't disagree with you in context, but, lets stop sticking our heads in the sand! Reality is the average person sees this as marketing to kids, period, it's kids cereal market directly to kids on TV daily, guilt by association. Saying otherwise and jumping on anyone that expresses this all too popular and reasonably expected view does NOT change that overall perception it just draws lines in the sand within the vaping community itself, nothing more.

I personally think it's a line that should be drawn. It would be different if there were concessions being made in order to gain something. That's not what's happening. What we have constantly from vapers is "don't do X because the public sees Y." Instead of doing something to change the public perception, we want to give into it. Instead of pointing out that "marketing to kids" is $*#&hit, we want to cow to it. Instead of pointing out the truth that there are zero health risks to second hand vapor, we want to cower in bathrooms so as not to upset people.
I'm tired of the shame, I'm tired of the hiding, I'm tired of being on the defensive when THEY HAVE NOTHING CONCRETE AGAINST US.

Yes, there have been battery related incidents, but no one is talking about how to prevent them, only that they happen and how it hurts our image.

Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm an idealist, but I refuse to demonize other vapers for the sake of public perception.

 

[YoursTruli]

I personally think it's a line that should be drawn. It would be different if there were concessions being made in order to gain something. That's not what's happening. What we have constantly from vapers is "don't do X because the public sees Y." Instead of doing something to change the public perception, we want to give into it. Instead of pointing out that "marketing to kids" is $*#&hit, we want to cow to it. Instead of pointing out the truth that there are zero health risks to second hand vapor, we want to cower in bathrooms so as not to upset people.
I'm tired of the shame, I'm tired of the hiding, I'm tired of being on the defensive when THEY HAVE NOTHING CONCRETE AGAINST US.

Yes, there have been battery related incidents, but no one is talking about how to prevent them, only that they happen and how it hurts our image.

Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm an idealist, but I refuse to demonize other vapers for the sake of public perception.

This ideation would be fine if you lived in a bubble where majority perception had no impact. But vaping does not exist in a bubble and general public perception is winning the war on vaping.

 

[mudmanc4]

I'm not getting into the semantics of children using tobacco products, or completely uneducated employees tapping a battery with incorrect voltage, or the injuries sustained due to any of the above.

However, keep relying on China to supply you and you wants and needs, the more you buy the more they'll put in front of you. It's basic commerce.
The problem, and I say mostly, in my view, is the tripe which is peddled to the US and so many other countries, originating from China, it's 90% total fuselage. Worth no more than the time spent on designing.

So demand more to flip a burger, demand more to stay at your work station and perform the duty in which you literally in less words than more, begged for, where you were so diligent about preparing for, continue to be greedy, masking out the repercussions of your subjective little world in clique, and continue to watch what you believe should be your 'right' to do {place anything here} being washed away by regulation, furthermore progress away from that which you hold so dear, your paper money and your fake, ducklipped, selfie taking corrugated lifestyle online. Sybil.

That should tweak a few.

 

[skoony]

I don't disagree with you in context, but, lets stop sticking our heads in the sand! Reality is the average person sees this as marketing to kids, period, it's kids cereal market directly to kids on TV daily, guilt by association. Saying otherwise and jumping on anyone that expresses this all too popular and reasonably expected view does NOT change that overall perception it just draws lines in the sand within the vaping community itself, nothing more.

IMHO the whole advertising to kids and the flavor thing is precisely crafted by the anti-vaping community
to split the vaping community. How could not one want to protect children? When kids go out of their way
to get their hands on this stuff it cannot be regulated away with legislation. We know this by the prevalence of underage drinking and smoking. The only reason for advertising or flavor bans is to
justify in the minds of the general public and vapors the dire need for the strongest regulations possible
to control this new deadly scourge to the chillin'.
This and public vaping bans are not about the children's health,your health nor, my health. They are to give the impression that vaping is something it is not. Bans are not to protect ones health. There to keep
the general public from experiencing vaping up close and finding out how harmless it is.
With out any of the flavors or advertising or battery mishaps we would still be precisely where
we are at right now. On the verge of what could be the end of vaping as we know it. These things
are just convenient excuses for them to do what they were going to do all along anyway.
Oddly enough I agree with @SmokeyJoe that the vendors had better get a handle on these
safety issues. They won't need to worry about the FDA. The courts will do far worse and more.

Regards
Mike