And now they're coming after drippers.......Monday morning junk science edition

[Eskie]

Read this lovely story this morning The dangers of dripping, artisinal vaping - CNN.com

A story with not only children, but explosions, poisonings, and risking life and limb to use an rda. The horror.

 

[Falco78]

It is like a horror movie only worse...

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[Btsmokincat]

Those damn kids and their new fangled dripping drops!

What an incredibly stupid article...

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[ckquatt]

They are so out of touch with the world! They act as if dripping is some new thing. Dripping has been around since I picked up my first in 2008 albeit it was a cig shaped battery and a blue foam stuffed 510 carto! I wish they would get past their "fake news" crap and actually do a little research. Oh I don't know... Maybe ask a few Vapers!!

That guy Ray Story... Completely Clueless!

"Do we think it's going to become a trend or very popular? No," he said.

He has no idea what is going on apparently! And hes the CEO of the tobacco Vapor Electronic Cigarette Association.

Jeez Louise!! He needs to be replaced or someone needs to educate him one!

 

[EddieAdams]

It's CNN. Easily the least reputable media outlet there is. I don't even call them a news network anymore. They set an agenda then create a story around said agenda. Facts do not matter to them.

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[zoiDman]

They are so out of touch with the world! They act as if dripping is some new thing. Dripping has been around since I picked up my first in 2008 albeit it was a cig shaped battery and a blue foam stuffed 510 carto! I wish they would get past their "fake news" crap and actually do a little research. Oh I don't know... Maybe ask a few Vapers!!

That guy Ray Story... Completely Clueless!


He has no idea what is going on apparently! And hes the CEO of the tobacco Vapor Electronic Cigarette Association.

Jeez Louise!! He needs to be replaced or someone needs to educate him one!

A couple of things to Consider...

We don't know the Context in which Mr. Story made that statement. It is a Time Honored Technique to take a Quote from someone and then Surround it with the Context an author would like to convey.

Also, If you are approached by a Media Outlet with a Long History of presenting Skewed, Biased, Half-Truths about e-Cigarettes, are you going to say Anything that is going to Help/Support them in their Crusade against e-Cigarettes?

Remember, when Flight MH370 went down, CNN were the one's who Supported the idea that Fire was the cause by showing a cartoon image of a Wooden Box with the words "Caution: e-Cigarettes Inside" across it.

 

[EddieAdams]

Just an excerpt from the article. They're painting "vape tricks" as somehow dangerous? How? Why? Doesn't matter right? The "mentally challenged" reader has just left that article thinking that vape tricks are dangerous. Critical thinking eludes a large part of our society.

"Beyond dripping is another alternative use of e-cigarettes that is of concern to Krishnan-Sarin: smoke tricks.
"You can inhale the vapor or the aerosol, and then you blow it out of your mouth or nose, and you create all different kinds of shapes," she said. "People create dragons and volcanoes and little hearts." Vape fests and competitions are devoted to smoke tricks, which are becoming enormously popular.
"More study is needed," said said Krishnan-Sarin. "We can't just assume e-cigarettes are being used the way everybody thinks they're being used."

Personally believe the agenda here is to paint anything but, what big tobacco will be able to provide the market with, should the FDA regulations go through, as unsafe and less healthy.

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[zoiDman]

"More study MONEY is needed," said said Krishnan-Sarin. "We can't just assume e-cigarettes are being used the way everybody thinks they're being used."

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I Fixed that for Krishnan-Sarin.

 

[Zutankhamun]

Dripping = new

I only read a little bit, then I got tired/bored

Lol... Mr. Story

 

[NCC]

About the author: From wikipedia,
"Susan Scutti is an American fiction writer, poet and journalist currently writing on mediacal [SIC} issues for Newsweek, CNN CBS Philly and Medical Daily." Article

 

[classwife]

What a load of crap garnered from already published crap !

They call this news/journalism ?

SHAMEFUL and sadly laughable !!!

And furthermore...why the hell hasn't anyone taught me how to make dragons, volcanoes and little hearts ?
We need a new sub-forum !!!
You guys are really letting me down here

 

[mongo74]

Oh, the humanity! And all the news anchors screaming around here. I told you; it – I can't even talk to people, their friends are dripping! Ah! It's... it... it's a... ah! I... I can't talk, ladies and gentlemen. Honest: he's just vaping there, mass of cloudy vapor. Ah! And everybody can hardly breathe and talk and the dripping. I... I... I'm sorry. Honest: I... I can hardly breathe. I... I'm going to step inside, where I cannot see it.

SMH. It's like they confused dripping with a certain illicit activity. Oh the horror. This is getting ridiculous.

 

[ChelsB]

What a load of crap garnered from already published crap !

They call this news/journalism ?

SHAMEFUL and sadly laughable !!!

And furthermore...why the hell hasn't anyone taught me how to make dragons, volcanoes and little hearts ?
We need a new sub-forum !!!
You guys are really letting me down here

I know, right?!
Thanks for the smile, classy!

 

[Eskie]

What a load of crap garnered from already published crap !

They call this news/journalism ?

SHAMEFUL and sadly laughable !!!

And furthermore...why the hell hasn't anyone taught me how to make dragons, volcanoes and little hearts ?
We need a new sub-forum !!!
You guys are really letting me down here

The little hearts trick would be really cool to learn before Valentine's Day. I think the article would have been even better with video of the dragons and volcanoes too.

The article does supply one very useful tidbit. The FDA will be holding an open workshop on e cig battery safety 4/19 and 4/20, with public comments accepted until 5/22. Might be nice to send in comments even though they'll never be read. Federal Register :: Battery Safety Concerns in Electronic Nicotine Delivery Systems; Public Workshop; Establishment of a Public Docket; Request for Comments

 

[mongo74]

Panelists will discuss their scientific knowledge on the questions and presentations in each session. To be considered to serve as a panelist, please provide a one-page biosketch that describes and supports your scientific expertise on the specific topic(s) being presented, nature of your experience and research in the scientific field, positions held, and any program development activities.

@Mooch!!!

 

[MMW]

Formaldehyde tho! Lollercoaster! We can expect a huge number of paranoid new vaper threads this week, I reckon. Thanks CNN.

 

[classwife]

About the author: From wikipedia,
"Susan Scutti is an American fiction writer, poet and journalist currently writing on mediacal [SIC} issues for Newsweek, CNN CBS Philly and Medical Daily." Article

Oh Yea ? So all that garbage spewed is "poetic license" ?

 

[EddieAdams]

Would be awesome to have @Mooch there. They would probably reject him because he wouldn't help with their cause.

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[Sugar_and_Spice]

The little hearts trick would be really cool to learn before Valentine's Day. I think the article would have been even better with video of the dragons and volcanoes too.

The article does supply one very useful tidbit. The FDA will be holding an open workshop on e cig battery safety 4/19 and 4/20, with public comments accepted until 5/22. Might be nice to send in comments even though they'll never be read. Federal Register :: Battery Safety Concerns in Electronic Nicotine Delivery Systems; Public Workshop; Establishment of a Public Docket; Request for Comments

I am not finding any real demonstration/how-to's in this so called workshop. All I am finding is that they are searching for data as it relates to explosions, asking for ideas on how to minimize the risks, etc. Nothing about ohm's law or how to use them correctly to stay safer with use.

This workshop is only gathering ideas, etc. So to me, nothing more than a back-handed way to gather info and 'show' how the FDA is doing 'something'.
What a waste of funds and time.

 

[classwife]

@Eskie
We should add " More Junk 'Science' " to your thread title

hmmmm...that might be a good idea for all the threads reporting on crapola news

oh I crack myself up sometimes : CNN = Crapola Not News