Announcing the NEW OMG VV KIT!!!!!!

[MissEmma]

WoW. I have never seen so many negative kicked to the curb folks. You all assume right out of the gate the product is defective, nice.

You're right. It is wrong for me to assume, but the mod track record isn't good. And the lack of responses to known issues of any kind is the pattern. I've just seen a change in the whole feel of this company over the past few months and it's sad. I'm a pessimist, so I tend to expect the worst until I'm proven wrong.

 

[wader2k]

First off, I hope everybody had a great weekend.

I have been using the OMG VV for the better part of a month. Every day, all day. I have had no problems with it.
We worked directly with the manufacturer on this and it is not the same as the other units referenced in this thread.
For example, some of our early samples had a 5 second cuttoff. This was completely unacceptable to us and we insisted this be changed to 10s.

A lot of hard work went into providing a decent, affordable VariVolt device to our customers.
The OMG VV is fully supported and backed by the V4L warranty. This is the bottom line.

 

[skye78]

Well that is awesome news and I hope it is a great VV! Thanks for responding back to us! We were all worried with the rumors that were going around. Mine should be here today or tomorrow.

 

[keyzygirl]

Thank you Wader!! Its as I thought!

 

[SnowDragon]

Wader can you please address all the questions in reply 11. From your reply the only thing I have learned is it no longer has a 5 second cut-off. Since this unique version is nothing like the prior version and has never been released, by definition the customers will indeed be paying to beta test it on a wide scale and will only be receiving the V4L 90 day warranty and there is no manufacturer extended 1 year warranty, correct? Since this version has been completely revamped and is nothing like the prior versions would you consider this to be Version 1 or a revised Version 3 in which case it actually does share the same amp limit, safety features, menu functions, led screen, tube body, internals, buttons, connector, end cap, and inability to read atomizer resistance?

Here are a few more questions:

Like the OMG All day is it unable to support Ego hardware?
If there is separate tube for an 18650 is this sold with the unit?
Is the powerhead metal like the Version 3 or plastic like the Versions 1 and 2?
Can you list all the changes made outside of increasing the cut-off time?

Followers of this post should not mistake these basic product questions as trolling, these are simple standard questions. This is why it is common for this information to displayed in the product description of a vendor's website. For example if I wanted to know info on a Mini Lava Tube the description would read as follows at most vendors websites:

Amp Swith Limit: 3.5Amp
510 Ego Connector
Single 18350 Battery
Solid Tube Design
1 year Warranty

Safety Features:
Short Circuit Protection
Reverse Battery Protection
Over-Current Protection
Short Circuit Atomizer Protection
Low Voltage notification
A Vent Hole in Bottom Cap

Can you address any of the points by CDNerds regarding voltage and the use of single LR cartos.

 

[Dirtay J]

Thanks Wader and Snow. And again snow you are pretty much right along the lines of what i was gonna ask. It is good to know Wader has one that works perfect. What i don't like is how the main questions were danced around. I really hope there is a more technical answer soon just so i can maybe regain some faith in V4L's newer products. oh yeah and for $99 it is at a bit of a high price point for a entry VV mod(i hate calling them mods, but also dont like calling them batteries cause thats whats inside. might stick to device.) I mean there is a couple nice vv devices in this price range that have a known track record or being very very good!

btw Snow i also am a fan of PBusardo's vids, and a couple months back when i first found him on YouTube i was like wait thats Snow....wait no it isn't. lol. I put this in here as a tip to what devices i am speaking of!

 

[SnowDragon]

Phil is great and is one of my 3 go to people when it comes product reviews. The other 2 are Nick and Jan aka Grimm Green and Geekgirlvaper, each has their own style but Phil pulls no punches, numbers don't lie.

 

[Dirtay J]

Yeah Grim Green(Nick) is awesome. huge fan of his too. really want to try some of there juice one of these day! Geekgirlvaper does good reviews too. I also follow fieldofvapor

 

[wader2k]

These are post rev 3. I suppose you could say it's a revised version 3.
Metal body and head, except for a hard plastic cap on the head unit.

The unit works with all of our carts- CoolCarts, WowCarts, Tank Replacement Carts(Single and Dual Coil).
The lone exception is the EGO megacart which would need stacked adapters to provide clearance.
Protections are built in to the head unit. As I already stated, there is no function to read the resistance.
With lower resistance cartos, the loaded voltage will not match the displayed voltage. This has been typical for LT style devices. We felt the performance was acceptable on this device.
The time/date function and voltage does reset when you change the battery. It is very quick and easy to get to the voltage adjustment.

Our standard warranty applies. As our customers know, we pride ourselves on customer service and support. If there are problems, we will take care of them!

 

[Dirtay J]

Thank you Wader on a bit more info. Still pretty vauge though. Knowing with V4L's outstanding CS if a problem does come up they will do anything possible to fix it. Which is good. I am still going to hold out till i see some more actual info. I am really interested in it, mainly cause i love the OLED display. along with the looks. but of course none of that matters if the unit its self dont work right. So maybe in the up coming weeks i will be adding this to my now growing collection!

 

[MissEmma]

That's great Wader, but, um what about the safety features? (copied from Snow's post because I'm too lazy to type them over)

Short Circuit Protection
Reverse Battery Protection
Over-Current Protection
Short Circuit Atomizer Protection
Low Voltage notification
A Vent Hole in Bottom Cap

These are extremely important questions for me. I won't stack batteries and I won't buy something that has a pretty good chance of being unsafe.


As far as not working with the mega carto...no big deal, I didn't expect that. Good that it works with V4L cartos though.

 

[keyzygirl]

Once Morandir gets his,Im sure we will have much more info.He will test it and give us all we need to know. All I can do is use it and tell you how it vapes. Morandir can tell you why,LOL!! Im excited to try it though!

 

[SnowDragon]

Once Morandir gets his,Im sure we will have much more info.He will test it and give us all we need to know. All I can do is use it and tell you how it vapes.

Indeed Morandir will be able to tell us a lot, however the manufacturer does not list the safety features of this device on it's website and V4L has yet to list the stated safety features of this device.

I appreciate the replies Wader, if you could just elaborate a little more...

What is the stated Amp Switch Limit?

When you noted, "With lower resistance cartos, the loaded voltage will not match the displayed voltage." are you speaking about 1.5 Dual Coils or basically any atomizer dual or single say...under 2 Ohms? If so are the numbers listed by CD Nerds and by several others ECF members from some of the other post links and reviews correct, instead of say 4.2 volts it could actually be as low as 3.3 or 3.4v. Correct me if I am wrong but according to Morandir's test panels wouldn't this mean that a much less expensive V4L Vapor Titan will actually outperform the OMG VV when using a LR atomizer like a 1.5 DCT? That the Vapor Titan will operate at 4v with a LR single or dual atomizer, while the OMG VV would only achieve 3.3 or 3.4v.

What are the protections in the head unit and does the unit display error codes? What happens if there is a short in the atomizer does the unit simply shut off, display an error code, or does it just not fire?

Of course safety is always a major concern so could you please list the stated manufacturer safety features:

My understanding is that the Time/Date and Voltage reset was an issue addressed in the non V4L Version 3 metal power head unit. If that is true then is the only change a 10 second cut-off or were there other changes? As well you noted that, "The lone exception is the EGO megacart which would need stacked adapters to provide clearance." so this would also hold true with the popular Vision Stardust too correct?

Now Green Sound markets the Vision Tox as a Lavatube, and you have noted the typical LT style devices do not match the displayed voltage, specifically with LR or say the popular 1.5 Dual Coil. Now I personally consider the typical LT devices to be the most popular which would be either a L-Rider or Young June. However as seen below if you pause the video, enlarge the screen and look at the chart, the L-rider maintains a 3.9v average or 10.14w which I believe is acceptable for maintaining good flavor and vapor. While the Young June device is actually pretty spot on throughout the entire power range.

Go to the 11:15 mark, Pause and enlarge....



So what is the actual on-load voltage using a 1.5 Dual Coil Cartomizer? If it is as has been noted 3.3 to 3.4v wouldn't that be below the operating capability of any of the V4L batteries which I believe blink out at around 3.65v?

Thanks

 

[TheBlueAdept]

Thank you wader for your replies, I appreciate this additional info and am also interested now to learn about the safety features and what specific info if any you have about the point at which the drop-off occurs (and what it drops down to?). Thanks!

 

[wader2k]

Thank you for your patience!

Max Current of the unit is 3 Amps.

The unit has the following protections built in:

• 
  Short Circuit Protection
  Over Current Protection
  Over Discharge Protection (at 3.5A)
  Reverse Battery Protection

The unit does not display error codes, it will simply not function of the above conditions occur.

Again I want to state that I have been using this unit for the last month constantly and have had no issues.
I find my sweet spot easily with most anything I put on it, but prefer it with a 3 ohm SC tank cart or a CoolCart!

 

[keyzygirl]

Thank you Wader!!

 

[Walleye05]

Is the cutoff time at 10 sec or longer?

 

[wader2k]

Cutoff time is at 10s.

 

[MissEmma]

Thank you for your patience!

Max Current of the unit is 3 Amps.

The unit has the following protections built in:

• 
  Short Circuit Protection
  Over Current Protection
  Over Discharge Protection (at 3.5A)
  Reverse Battery Protection

The unit does not display error codes, it will simply not function of the above conditions occur.

Again I want to state that I have been using this unit for the last month constantly and have had no issues.
I find my sweet spot easily with most anything I put on it, but prefer it with a 3 ohm SC tank cart or a CoolCart!

Thank you for answering

 

[TheBlueAdept]

Thanks Wader, and I believe another safety feature to add to the product description is: "Vent Hole in Battery Endcap".

(Meaning, please update the product description on the website with all of this very useful info!)