Another newbie with newbie problems

[MustangSallie]

Hi All,

I've been vaping for a little over a week. Unfortunately I did as I always do; I bought first and I bought BIG and THEN I did the research. My first e-cig is what I _think_ is known as a mini (?). Okay, full disclosure... I bought two Bloog MaxFusion batteries, and two Premium batteries (also KR808D-1 type), all automatic. I ordered a couple of pre-filled cartomizers with the Premium batteries, and some pre-filled and blank cartomizers with the Bloog batteries. I also ordered a ton of sample size juices from three different suppliers so I could figure out what I like best.

My initial criteria? I wanted an e-cig that was no muss, no fuss, no buttons, almost no maintenance. I thought I wouldn't mind filling the cartomizers, but I didn't want to get into dripping and I didn't want to deal with atomizers and cartridges and tanks (don't have a good reason for any of that, some of it just seemed too much for a newbie to deal with). I also wanted something that looked and felt a lot like an analog.

The results. Well, I got what I wanted, kinda. But it's all just... okay. I'm off the analogs, but I'm pretty frustrated. I don't mind the battery life, I do have four of them after all. I can vape off two and have two charging. What I can't stand is constantly having to top off the cartomizers and never really knowing if they need it or not. Being a new vaper, I'm still trying to figure out when they're running low. I seem to have burnt a few of the cartos, and so now I think I'm erring on the side of caution and topping off before I have to. Probably every couple of hours. I also feel like I'm working too hard trying to get a good hit off of any of these batteries. The Bloog doesn't need a primer puff, but it seems like I only get a good hit maybe every 5th try. Could just be that I'm still trying to figure it all out and so I'm not doing it right, but really how hard should it be? The Premier batteries are supposed to need the primer puff but I have found that I don't need to do that, they're working exactly like the Bloog. Just a slow steady draw does it. It just doesn't "do it" enough for me!

In order to remedy my dissatisfaction, I decided I would just bite the bullet and go all in. I was going to buy whatever it took just to get a satisfying vaping experience instead of the just so so experience I have now. I started looking around the forums for people's favorite e-cigs. What worked the best, why they liked them, what they didn't like about them, etc.... I was just about to press the "Buy" button on an eGo when I came across the eGo vs. GoGo thread in the ECF. Wow, 270 pages (how many posts?) about one e-cig. Even if al the posts weren't positive, I've never seen another thread like that one. It certainly says something about the GoGo. After reading through about page 80, I was sold. I placed my order on Sunday night and I now I'm just waiting for it to arrive. I also ordered the 808 adapter so I can use the GoGo cartos on my existing batteries. I haven't read any posts from anyone who has used one yet, I hope that's not a disappointment too, but at $7.00, it will be the cheapest mistake I've made so far.

I know I'll still use the minis when I go out to dinner with friends or over to my Mom's, just to be a bit less conspicuous, but since I work out of my house the GoGo is going to be my all day vape. I just hope it lives up to it's hype!

So anyway... Glad to be here and I hope to pick up a few tips along the way. Hopefully it will be a long while before I'm in the market for another e-cig. I don't need another collecting hobby, I have enough of them already.

 

[ShannonA]

The only issue I see you having (if any) with the gogo is that's proprietary. I've heard alot of good things about it and it certainly is aimed at being no fuss no muss. I'd like to get one for the hubby eventually... myself I think I'd want to change flavors more often but I might get it and just keep a different flavor in each but I think I would opt for the igo or ego for me. For you the gogo sounds perfect but I think the ego would do ok for you as well . I don't think you'll be unhappy though.

 

[swedishfish]

I was thinking about getting a GoGo myself because I love the idea of the big battery and big carto. I don't change juice flavors frequently so that shouldn't be a problem for me.

I hope you really like it! Keep us posted.

 

[Stosh]

I've tried the go-go cartos with the 808 adapter, and personally prefer them at 5V.
Tried them mostly because I like trying new attys, cartos and tanks of all types.
So far my favorite for flavor, vapor, and long lasing coil have been the CE2s with
a Smoke Tank mod. Holds lots of juice, easy to clean / switch flavors, and the
coils come in various resistance (ohms) so you can pick the watts to use depending
on what juice you're vaping.

 

[MustangSallie]

Yikes Stosh, I only understand about 1/10th of what you said (okay maybe a bit more than that but not by much). If the GoGo works out for me, maybe I'll never need to understand what all of that means. Otherwise, I think I need to read a WHOLE LOT MORE of this forum.

 

[ancient puffer]

Hi MustangSallie, welcome to ECF

First, let me say you've done *very* well for someone just getting started, a lot of us got those ghastly things from service stations, mall kiosks, etc. Frankly, the stuff you started with is excellent for what it does. My only comment there is on the liquid you're using and that it sounds like you may want to go to a higher level of nicotine if its not satisfying your urges. You can also try getting a liquid based on more VG to give you a little more vapor.

The Go-Go is also a great choice, and really is almost maintenance free, once you get the kinks worked out (the charger issue, mostly). And it should give you clouds of vapor. Lots of folks here using the "heavy artillery" (the Go-Go) at home and the smaller ones for out and about, but I suspect once you get the Go-Go, you'll just start using it all the time. YMMV, though, since *sometimes* being inconspicuous is where its at.

Be sure to jump in on the Go-Go threads with any questions you have or just to let us know how you're doing with it. And of course, by all means ask any general questions you may have here, folks love to help and advise.

I'd say you're pretty much where you need to be to "settle back" and enjoy vaping, but of course, there's all those delicious sounding FLAVORS to try.

 

[Stosh]

Yikes Stosh, I only understand about 1/10th of what you said (okay maybe a bit more than that but not by much). If the GoGo works out for me, maybe I'll never need to understand what all of that means. Otherwise, I think I need to read a WHOLE LOT MORE of this forum.

Sorry !! I get carried away.....

Basically I found the go-go cartos a little weak, (higher voltage 5V solves that)
The CE2 is a filler-less carto, that can be used with Storm Tank 2.6-2.8 ohm - $13.99 : Stormys Vapor Cellar, Electronic Cigarettes & More, which allows you to see how full it is, and easy cleaning.

 

[swedishfish]

Yikes Stosh, I only understand about 1/10th of what you said (okay maybe a bit more than that but not by much). If the GoGo works out for me, maybe I'll never need to understand what all of that means. Otherwise, I think I need to read a WHOLE LOT MORE of this forum.

funny!

 

[swedishfish]

Sorry !! I get carried away.....

Basically I found the go-go cartos a little weak, (higher voltage 5V solves that)
The CE2 is a filler-less carto, that can be used with Storm Tank 2.6-2.8 ohm - $13.99 : Stormys Vapor Cellar, Electronic Cigarettes & More, which allows you to see how full it is, and easy cleaning.

Thanks! And thanks for the link!

 

[MustangSallie]

Thanks! And thanks for the link!

Ditto the thanks!

 

[MustangSallie]

My only comment there is on the liquid you're using and that it sounds like you may want to go to a higher level of nicotine if its not satisfying your urges. You can also try getting a liquid based on more VG to give you a little more vapor.

I _think_ I'm okay on the nicotine level. I'm not feeling like I'm in nicotine withdrawal, no cravings for an analog at all. My craving is for a more satisfying hit, not just for more favor and vapor, although they are certainly lacking. I'm not sure if I can really describe what I mean, but just MORE of what I'm getting. It feels like I'm really working hard to get a decent hit. Like the muscles in my throat/jaw area are actually overworking. I've read something here about a tight draw, I'm not really sure what that means, but if I was to describe what I'm feeling I would describe it as a tight draw.

After doing a bit of research here, I thought maybe some of the trouble was the PG/VG mix of the pre-filled cartos I ordered, so I purchased some juice at 80/20 and 70/30 ratios. The vapor production is certainly better then straight PG, but the draw is still lacking something. Every once in a while I'll get this wonderful hit of flavor, especially with some of the fruit juice I ordered, but it's just hints here and there of what could be.

I'd say you're pretty much where you need to be to "settle back" and enjoy vaping, but of course, there's all those delicious sounding FLAVORS to try.

I can't wait. I really, really hope it happens.

 

[ancient puffer]

I think what you're describing is what we affectionately call a "golden vape" Its hard to get that consistantly with the smaller devices. I think you'll see a big improvement with the Go-Go you're getting. Just remember to take slow puffs and you'll be amazed at the difference.

The Go-Go, incidentally, is famous for its "airy" draw, not tight at all.

 

[mlinky]

Also sounds like you are flooding your cartos.

 

[dormouse]

Most people here use manual batteries not just because they are safer from getting damaged by juice leaks or turning on automatically from wind or vibration, but also because they give more control of your hit. When the carto is cool you can just press the button slightly earlier before starting your drag. if you want to try a manual battery - only $9.95 at LiteCigUSA.net
KR808D-1 Manual Battery
(or for more you can get nice colors at Vapor4Life.com)

 

[MustangSallie]

Also sounds like you are flooding your cartos.

Wow... interesting, I'll bet your right. I'll have to do some experimenting I guess. I want to be able to continue to use the 808's I have, and it would be nice if I could get them to work correctly.

Thanks!

 

[MustangSallie]

The Go-Go, incidentally, is famous for its "airy" draw, not tight at all.

This was one of the things that sold me on it. I was hoping "airy" was the exact opposite of what I'm experiencing. Should be here in a few more days, received the shipping notice just yesterday.

 

[mohawkx]

This was one of the things that sold me on it. I was hoping "airy" was the exact opposite of what I'm experiencing. Should be here in a few more days, received the shipping notice just yesterday.

I do believe you'll love the gogo. Most everybody who gets one does. I bought a gogo kit and never had another analog after that. I purchased a second kit the following week. The majority who purchase a gogo kit purchase a second kit shortly after. It is perfect for the new vaper as it really is no muss, no fuss and no worries. Very experienced vapers who have tried 3 or 4 different types of e-cigs settled on the gogo and swear by it as the most consistant for ease of use, flavor, vapor and TH. I wrote a user guide for the gogo and for new users. You might want to give it a read so you know what you're in for. Know that there is an extensive gogo support network on ECF who will help you with anything you need. We are zealots concerning the product. It's located in the "Ego subforum" here eGo Type Models Why not drop in and say hello on one of the many gogo threads?

Here is the gogo user guide http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ego-type-models/175310-users-guide-gogo.html

Edit to add: the draw on the gogo can be adajusted with some simple adjustments if need be.

 

[mohawkx]

The only issue I see you having (if any) with the gogo is that's proprietary. I've heard alot of good things about it and it certainly is aimed at being no fuss no muss. I'd like to get one for the hubby eventually... myself I think I'd want to change flavors more often but I might get it and just keep a different flavor in each but I think I would opt for the igo or ego for me. For you the gogo sounds perfect but I think the ego would do ok for you as well . I don't think you'll be unhappy though.

The gogo is not propriatary any more. There are 808 adaptors going both ways that Cigeasy sells and Nhaler is coming out with 510 adaptors very shortly.

 

[MustangSallie]

Thanks mohawkx. I'll definitely be stopping by the GoGo threads to say hi. I'm sure I'll have lots more to say then just hi as soon as I actually have my GoGo in hand. I read your user guide already. Great information to have all in one place. Thanks for that! That thread prompted me to buy the 801 soft tips for use on the GoGo.

 

[mohawkx]

Sorry !! I get carried away.....

Basically I found the go-go cartos a little weak, (higher voltage 5V solves that)
The CE2 is a filler-less carto, that can be used with Storm Tank 2.6-2.8 ohm - $13.99 : Stormys Vapor Cellar, Electronic Cigarettes & More, which allows you to see how full it is, and easy cleaning.

The gogo cartos are pretty weak using an 808. Not enough voltage to maximize the carto. The horizontal carto works excellent on the 1300mAh gogo batts and very good on a Mod. The adaptors will be handy for testing juice using a gogo batt and adaptor before filling the 3ml gocarts.
The gocartos seem indestructible. We've been experimenting with different ways to keep them going and frankly we still have most going from three months ago. Cleaning them thoroughly is vert easy. Drew at Nhaler posted that he's stocked up on gogo cartos that he'll never sell because they never wear out.