Another no nicotine hiring policy
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And an additional one from Ada County ID:
Idaho article here: Ada County mulls new hiring policy to screen out smokers | Idaho Statesman
And on the other end of the spectrum, some businesses are actually starting to reimburse employees for using electronic cigarettes.
Shouldn't these "health" organizations also be testing BMI and not hiring obese people?
Shouldn't they also be testing for caffeine?
For alcohol use?
Are these "health" organizations really that ignorant when it comes to nicotine?
Or is there some other motivating factor behind their agenda?
Shouldn't these "health" organizations also be testing BMI and not hiring obese people?
Shouldn't they also be testing for caffeine?
For alcohol use?
Are these "health" organizations really that ignorant when it comes to nicotine?
Or is there some other motivating factor behind their agenda?
So they won't hire smokers/nicotine users because they "cost" them so much. So, how much will it cost them to treat them for free because they come in sick and are unemployed without insurance? Because everyone knows if you don't have insurance you access the hospital's emergency room for free care. Wonder how much more it will end up costing them in the long run?
Then again, if it's a truly nicotine free zone will they decide to stop treating nicotine users, with or without insurance because they cost so much? Will that be the next step? Smokers denied all health care because they smoke?
Then again, if it's a truly nicotine free zone will they decide to stop treating nicotine users, with or without insurance because they cost so much? Will that be the next step? Smokers denied all health care because they smoke?
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Speaking of treating smokers....
Freedom-2-Choose: Jane DeVille-Almond: Health professional?!? Revisited.
Freedom-2-Choose: Jane DeVille-Almond: Health professional?!? Revisited.
I wish I had something constructive to add. I don't.
It just drives me bonkers. "DON'T SMOKE!" they yell. so I find an alternative that doesn't include me being miserable and they say "DON'T VAPE" either. And when Nicotine is eradicated from the land and we live in a perfect utopia what will they rage against then?
It just drives me bonkers. "DON'T SMOKE!" they yell. so I find an alternative that doesn't include me being miserable and they say "DON'T VAPE" either. And when Nicotine is eradicated from the land and we live in a perfect utopia what will they rage against then?
They are looking for the cheapest labor they can get and with 8.5% unemployment they can pick and choose. Who comes in for treatment has nothing to do with it.
Communists. Wonder when they will start burning all the books. Next they wont hire you if its found you eat ice cream and hamburgers
Wow, just wow. Same thinking: Unless you're in good health (don't eat red meat, don't wear tight underwear, don't use caffeine, etc.) you're not committed to your health, and should be denied public healthcare.
Sure, makes sense lol!
The way this is all going utterly and absolutely chilling.
How dare they-too many lines are being crossed and the more the prohibitionists demand the more they are getting! Succeeding in getting a ban somewhere just encourages them to raise the bar -the demands get more outrageous.
I dont live in the US, but I feel for our American and Canadian cousins right now.. I read the thread about the urine sampling with disbelief.
I hope somehow the prohibitionist loons can be taken on-it's ridiculous.
How dare they-too many lines are being crossed and the more the prohibitionists demand the more they are getting! Succeeding in getting a ban somewhere just encourages them to raise the bar -the demands get more outrageous.
I dont live in the US, but I feel for our American and Canadian cousins right now.. I read the thread about the urine sampling with disbelief.
I hope somehow the prohibitionist loons can be taken on-it's ridiculous.
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Playing Devils Advocate .. an analog ban on hiring is not unreasonable, IMO .. after all, we I'm sure can all agree they are bad on many levels .. so, the question is, how can an employer differentiate nic use between an analog and a PV .. ??
All nicotine consumers are positive in tests for cotinine (nicotine metabolite). Breath test for CO allows to weed out smokers. Vaping (nothing burned) would not change CO level.
the reason is that the same companies are not making money off of weight loss products.
Wasn't there just something in the news recently about obesity gaining ground as being the #1 health problem in America? The thing is addiction, even though it is defined a s disease is not covered under the ADA. Obesity has lobbyists for the obese, as well as the food companies that create the problem.
Because of the stigma of smoking it is more dangerous than being 80lbs overweight even though it costs the same amount of money to treat. A company can legally discriminate against smokers but not against someone who is overweight.
And to top it off, people who give up nicotine often become overweight or obese. One study showed that females gain as much as 20 pounds.
That seems to have happened to me also as I started weaning down to zero nic. Grrrr. Back on Atkins and at least I can vape my peanut butter toffee cheesecake brownies. I'm going to add some low level nic(2mg) back in for a while also to help boost my metabolism for a bit. Thank heavens my state doesn't allow the nic nazis to test for nicotine for employment. Although I'm not looking for a job, I imagine this will start getting pushed onto current employees at some time in the states that allow it.
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So if it is a Nicotine Free Zone I am assuming they don't allow employees to eat Tomatos and Eggplant.
True.
I've gained about 15 lbs since I got off the nicotine.
I had to put myself on a diet.
I'm a guy and gained about 15lb when I did my 9 months of quitting. Stimulants make you burn calories faster....
I do the same thing with coffee flavors when I am craving coffee but it is too late in the evening to have a cup without worrying about never getting to sleep till the sun comes up.
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