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Any alternatives to PG and VG?

Discussion in 'General E-Liquid Discussion' started by kyolic, Mar 20, 2011.

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  1. kyolic

    kyolic Full Member

    Feb 7, 2011
    Are these the only liquids which can produce the vapor we need or are there any alternatives?

    Do you think one day it will be possible to invent an e-cigarette which uses pure water as the liquid?
  2. SlowTalker

    SlowTalker Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 8, 2010
    I used too much water to thin one of my DIY juices and had to toss the whole batch. I kept gagging on the "steam." I would be leery about mold and other nasties as well.
  3. Justice

    Justice ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

    What's wrong with pg or vg just curious ???? Also thinned once with water didn't think water vapor could be more choking than pg or vg but had same reaction as SlowTalker
  4. JollyRogers

    JollyRogers Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 30, 2009
    PEG400 - Polyethylene Glycol? I believe that is an alternative. Nope, pure water wouldn't work...
  5. kyolic

    kyolic Full Member

    Feb 7, 2011
    E-cigarettes have an history of 3 or 4 years I guess. So I don't think it is wise to claim VG and PG to be totally harmless. No one knows about their long term effects when inhaled. Correct me if I am wrong please.
  6. Zal42

    Zal42 Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 20, 2011
    Actually, people have been inhaling vaporized pg for a very long time, over 100 years, in theatrical fog. Vg, too, has a long history although not as long as pg. Both substances have had a lot of clinical study done with them on the inhalation front. Confidence is quite high that, unless you're allergic or asthmatic, these substances are generally safe to inhale, even in the long term. (Vg can produce a toxic substance if heated beyond a certain temperature, but most attys don't get that hot.)

    The only component of juice that hasn't been well studied and established to be reasonably safe is the flavorings.
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  7. Addicted2Vap

    Addicted2Vap Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 18, 2010
    South-Eastern Ky,USA
  8. jackoboy82

    jackoboy82 Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 10, 2011
    Wrexham, UK
    I'm not sure about VG but PG has a history of about 60-70 years at least. do a search on here or google and you will find quite a bit about PG and inhaling it. remember PG is used in fog machines at discos and therefore needed to be studied as people will inhale it at them.

    XSINBADX Full Member

    Feb 13, 2011
    New Orleans
    1 Month Ago When I First Started To Vape .. I Asked the Same Question .. 4 Seconds Later, I Answered It .. Can It Be Worse Than Cigarettes? No Way!
  10. kyolic

    kyolic Full Member

    Feb 7, 2011
    So we can say that PG at least is safe to be inhaled -almost for sure. I wish it was VG which we were talking about. I hate the taste of PG.
  11. lerrygibson

    lerrygibson Moved On

    Mar 18, 2011
    As far as I know PG and VG not cause any harm, taking vapors inside is not 3 to 4 year history, people enjoy it since ancient time. And I didn't read anything happened because of VG :)
  12. redheadone

    redheadone Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Feb 2, 2011
    North Carolina
    I don't know about vg but the only problem to pg is if you an allergic reaction to it. There is an interesting thread here on the forum talking about that topic. In reading that thread those that did have an reaction had changed to all vg and are having no problems at all so I guess vg is okay.
  13. Sellaman

    Sellaman Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 16, 2011
    Queensland Australia
    Yes, I hate the tast of PG too but it seems that is all I am able to vape. VG makes me dizzy.

    I'm only new to vaping and I have ordered unflavored PG with nicotine in it and I will add some (Flavor drops) flavors from Capella to my PG , so I hope that fixes my problems and that it will give me a satisfying vape.

    But as you said in your first post....Is there an alternative to either PG or VG?
    Well , I will be looking out for one.
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