Any interest in determining nicotine--by DVAP

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Warning.. don't start buying all that equipment. I've come up with a procedure that works on a smaller scale with an endpoint that can be read easily, even with colored e-liquids. It is an order of magnitude simpler and cheaper than version 1.

Isn't science fun?

It's an order of magnitude easier to screw up if you don't have very expensive equipment. Nevermind.

One edit to the procedure... instead of the addition of 6 drops of the indicator, 30 drops should be added. I was blaming an initial green color on blue/yellow = green. Wow.. stupid. Just needed more indicator. So much for guessing.
 

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Very interesting, hope to see more results as this is out of my league.

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Same here, out of my league as well. I have an idea of what your doing DVap, but only from general knowledge, random reading.

You do mention you've thoughts on a simpler procedure though...
 

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[This is a revision of post #12 in this thread.
Post #12 is superceded by this post.]
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Determination of nicotine in e-liquid by titration

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First, a word from my ..., which prefers to be covered:

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Acid/base titration is an analytical technique by which a standardized solution (in this case an acid) is added to a solution containing an unknown amount of a substance (in this case, nicotine, an organic base) to determine the amount/concentration of the unknown via neutralization. A color changing indicator is added to the solution containing the nicotine to tell us when the nicotine has been neutralized (all free nicotine converted to salt). It is at this point that the pH of the solution swings from alkaline (pH > 7) to acidic (pH < 7). Nicotine acts as a mono-hydroxy base (even though it's really a basic nitrogen at work), and titration with a strong acid gives a sharp endpoint. This is to say that as we add acid in the presence of excess free nicotine, the solution pH will drop slowly toward 7 (neutral) until the free nicotine is neutralized. At this point, adding another drop or two of the acid solution will cause a precipitous drop in the pH of the solution indicating what is referred to as the endpoint of the titration.

Example: we have 50 mL of water at pH 7. We add 1 drop (0.05 mL) of 0.1N HCl solution. What is the resulting pH? Doesn't seem like it should change by a lot, does it? wrong. The hydrogen ion concentration becomes:

0.1 * (0.05/50.05) = 0.0000999 N (round to 0.0001 N)

Since pH is defined as -log (base 10) of the hydrogen ion concentration, we find the negative log of 0.0001, which is 4. So that single drop of 0.1 N strong acid (full ionization) drops the pH from 7 to 4.

So as long as there is excess nicotine relative to the acid that's being added, the pH remains greater than 7, but once the nicotine is consumed, it takes a tiny amount of acid to drop the pH far below 7.

Enough theory.. let's make it work.

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Equipment:

1. 50 mL burette w/stopcock, 0.1 ml subdivisions.
(can be had for under $20)

2. A burette stand and burette clamp.
(or anything you can cobble together to make the burette stand upright in one spot).

3. 250 mL erlenmeyer flask.
(or suitably sized glass container)

4. 25 mL graduated cylinder, 0.5 ml subdivisions.
(under $10 on eBay or elsewhere)

5. Bromothymol blue, aqueous solution.
(API pH Test Kit, from Mars Fishcare) Walmart usually has it for about $5 in the aquarium supply section. If it has a color card in the box that shows a range of 6.0 - 7.6 (going from yellow, through green, to blue), this is the stuff.

6. 1000 mL volumetric flask
(or 1L plastic bottle marked with a Sharpie)

7. 0.1N HCl solution, 1 liter.
(you make this from 32% muriatic acid)

8. Distilled water, 1 gallon.
(from local supermarket)

Before use, all containers should be washed 3X with distilled water at 10% of the volume of the container and dried with a clean paper towel. E.G., A 250 mL erlenmeyer flask should be rinsed 3X with ~25 mL distilled water.

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Preparation of 0.1N HCl

You could simply look around on the internet and purchase a liter of 0.1N sulfuric acid. This shouldn't land you on any government watch-lists. Try to buy concentrated sulfuric acid, and someone is going to notice. If you don't want to go the 0.1N sulfuric acid route, you can make a pretty approximate 0.1N HCl solution by purchasing some 32% muriatic acid. You've just re-read the safety warning at the top of this post, you've read a bunch of MSDS sheets, and bought a bunch of personal protective equipment. You've got a fume hood, professional supervision, safety shower, and eyewash close at hand. Good.

Into a 25 mL graduated cylinder, add 9.63 mL of 32% muriatic acid. You'll not really be able to exactly add this amount to the graduated cylinder, but assuming you have the 0.5 mL subdivisions, just eyeball it to 1/5 of the way between the 9.5 and 10.0 mL mark. When reading liquid levels, always read to the BOTTOM of the meniscus at the top surface of the liquid.

Add approximately 500 mL distilled water to your 1000 mL volumetric flask (or 1 liter plastic bottle marked for 1L) (pre-washed 3X with distilled water, remember?) Carefully add the acid from the graduated cylinder to the 500 mL distilled water in the volumetric flask/plastic bottle. *CAREFULLY add 25 mL distilled water to the residual acid in the graduated cylinder to rinse any residual acid and add this rinse to the 1000 mL volumetric flask/plastic bottle. Swirl to mix well, and add additional distilled water to reach 1000 mL final volume. Mark this solution 0.1N HCl. *(NOTE: STRONG ACID SHOULD BE ADDED TO WATER, NEVER ADD WATER TO ANY APPRECIABLE VOLUME OF STRONG ACID). 0.1N HCl is generally not hazardous, but treat it caution and maintain safety as previously detailed. Store the remaining 32% muriatic acid in a secure location inaccessible to children. This stuff is dangerous.

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Determining the amount of e-liquid to use:

When determining how much e-liquid to use, we'll start by assuming that the supplier is both competent and honest. We will use the mg/mL on the label to find the volume of e-liquid to add to the 250 mL erlenmeyer flask. This volume will correspond to the amount of nicotine at the vendor stated nicotine level that will be exactly neutralized by 25 mL of the 0.1N HCl solution. 25 mL of 0.1N HCl will neutralize exactly 0.0025 moles of a mono-hydroxy base (or of an organic base acting as a mono-hydroxy base).
The molecular weight of nicotine is 162.26, so 0.0025 moles of nicotine is:

162.26 grams * 0.0025 = 0.4056 g.

We'll just call it 406 mg.

So, if you have e-liquid that claims to be 36 mg/mL, you'll want to use:

406mg/(36 mg/mL) = 11.28 mL

If your e-liquid claims to be 48 mg/mL, you want to use:

406mg/(48 mg/mL) = 8.46 mL

We've now done the math.

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Procedure:

1. After 3X rinsing the 25 mL graduated cylinder to make damned sure we have all the concentrated acid out of it from the step where we made the 0.1N acid, add the volume of e-liquid to the graduated cylinder that was determined in the previous section. Again, assuming you have 0.5 mL subdivisions, estimate fractional mL's as best you can. Again, measure to the BOTTOM of the meniscus on the top of the liquid.

2. Add the e-liquid from the graduated cylinder to the 250 mL erlenmeyer flask. rinse the graduated cylinder 3X with equal volumes of distilled water and add each rinse to the erlenmeyer flask such that the total volume of liquid in the erlenmeyer flask is approximately 50 ml. (If you used 12 mL e-liquid, 3 rinses at ~ 12 or 13 mL each should do it). The rinses should be well stirred inside the graduated cylinder (use a clean soda straw) to make sure that none of the viscous e-liquid remains in the graduated cylinder.

3. Add 30 drops aqueous bromothymol blue solution to the e-liquid/distilled water solution in the 250 mL erlenmeyer flask. The color of the solution should be distinctly blue.

4. Rinse the burette 3X by filling it with 0.1N HCl solution, and drain it. Add 0.1N HCl solution to the burette and open the stopcock slowly and allow the meniscus of the acid solution to precisely reach the top mark on the burette (the top is often dual marked as 50 mL and 0 mL, I.E. 50 mL present, 0 mL dispensed).

5. Secure the burette in the burette holder and secure the burette holder to the ringstand (or whatever monstrosity you've cobbled together to hold the burette still). Place the tip of the burette 1 inch above the lip of the erlenmeyer flask containing the nicotine/indicator solution. Also, you should place a sheet of white paper under the erlenmeyer flask to help see the color in the flask clearly.

6. If the e-liquid vendor is correct, it will take 25 mL of the 0.1N acid to complete the titration. Slowly open the stopcock on the burette and establish a flow of approximately 5 mL/minute.

7. As the acid solution drops into the nicotine solution, swirl the erlenmeyer flask to ensure complete mixing. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. SWIRLING MUST BE MAINTAINED. You are looking for the point where you start to see the solution turn a greenish tint from blue. (Wikipedia has a picture of the color change under their bromothymol blue article, refer to it). As soon as the color of the solution has gone to greenish, close the burette stopcock.

8. Re-open the burette stopcock, and allow the 0.1N HCl to drop at a rate of 1 drop every 3 seconds. Continue to swirl the flask until the solution turns from green to yellow and remains yellow. If you overshoot by a few drops, don't worry. The titration is done.

9. Record the volume of 0.1N HCl solution dispensed.

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Calculation:

mg/mL nicotine in e-liquid:

= supplier's claimed mg/mL X (volume 0.1N HCl dispensed in mL / 25 mL)

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Good luck!
 
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Something to note. This procedure, as written, is intended more for determining nicotine in bulk containers of e-liquid (0.5 L, 1L) where sacrificing ~ 10 mL for the sake of knowing what's in there doesn't represent a high percentage of the total liquid. (10 mL from 500 mL is only 2% of the liquid).

If you have 30 mL of 36 mg e-liquid, testing it would require more than a third of it to get the 400+ mg of nicotine specified in the procedure. Frankly, I'd rather vape it.

If I were going to determine an e-liquid labeled at 36 mg, and I only had 30 mL of it, I would scale the mg of nicotine to be titrated down by a factor of 5. This way, I'd only need about 2.25 mL of the liquid. I'd also expect to consume 5 mL of acid instead of 25. The error bars get a little wider on a scale down, but my experience (and the equipment I can easily get my hands on) is such that I can pull it off without much difficulty or loss of accuracy. The issues with a scale down boil down to introduction of error and it's magnitude. Skill and experience become much more important.

Example 1:

I'm trying to get 11.28 mL of a 36 mg labeled e-liquid into a 25 mL graduated cylinder subdivided at 0.5 mL. If I actually use 11.0 mL, I've used 11.0/11.28 or 97.5% of the desired amount. If I actually use 11.5 mL, I've used 11.5/11.28 or 102% of the desired amount. By carefully trying to place the bottom of the meniscus ~ 3/5th of the way between the 11.0 and 11.5 mL marks, I'm pretty confident my error is maybe 1% or less.

Example 2:

I've scaled down by a factor of 5, and I'm trying to get 2.26 mL of a 36 mg labeled e-liquid into a 25 mL graduated cylinder subdivided at 0.5 mL. (some cylinders don't even start the markings until the 3 ml mark). If I miss low at 2 ml, I've used 2/2.26 mL or 88% of the desired amount. If I miss high and use 2.5 mL, I've used 2.5/2.26 mL or 111% of these desired amount.

For a 36 mg liquid, a 2.5% error (example 1) represents 0.9 mg/mL. Not too bad (and I know I'd be closer to 1%, 0.36 mg/mL).

For the same 36 mg liquid, an 11% error (example 2) represents around 4 mg/mL. now we're getting some wider error bars (32 - 40 mg).

So there's an advantage to greater volumes. The same absolute error in measurement equates to a proportionally smaller percent error in measurement.

If there are a couple of folks out there (I guess I'm only looking for two) who have bulk (500 - 1000 mL) e-liquid, and would just like to know what's in it without fussing with all this science, contact me by private message. Assuming your liquid is 36 mg or greater, all you would have to do is arrange to send me 15 mL of the liquid for testing. Please do not tell me what the labeled concentration is. I'll PM a result back to you. The reason I'm looking for two folks is that I want to run this procedure on some real world bulk liquids, but at the same time, I don't want to end up running tests for two dozen people! :p
 

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After debating with myself awhile, I've decided to post the simplified smaller scale procedure I hinted at. It only requires 1 mL of e-liquid, and is sufficient to determine approximately the nicotine content within perhaps 10%.

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Determination of nicotine in e-liquid by titration
Simplified, Lower Accuracy, Smaller Scale


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Equipment:

10 mL graduated cylinder, with subdivisions at 0.2 mL.

Bromothymol blue solution (see the expanded procedure previously detailed in this thread).

0.1 N HCl solution. (see the expanded procedure previously detailed in this thread)

2 disposable glass or plastic pipettes (or an eye-dropper) long enough to reach the bottom of the graduated cylinder.

Distilled water.

Thin plastic rod for stirring (make sure it's clean)

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Procedure

1. Make sure the graduated cylinder is clean (several rinses with distilled water and dry with a clean paper towel).

2. Add exactly 1 mL of e-liquid. The bottom of the meniscus should sit precisely on the 1.0 mL mark. It may be a good idea to use a disposable plastic pipette (or a long eye-dropper) to make sure you don't drip any down the inside of the graduated cylinder. Accuracy here is really important.

3. Add 2 drops of the bromothymol blue indicator solution.

4. Add distilled water to precisely the 3.0 mL mark. The bottom of the meniscus should sit precisely on the 3.0 mL mark.

5. Stir the solution with a clean plastic rod to mix well.

6. Add 0.1 N HCl solution (again, refer to the expanded procedure previously in this thread for how to make the 0.1 N HCl) drop-wise with stirring after each drop.

7. The solution will go from distinctly blue, to green, to pale green, to yellowish green, and finally will very suddenly after the correct amount of acid had been dropped in, turn distinctly yellow and remain yellow. You are done adding acid.

8. Determine the volume in the graduated cylinder in excess of 3.0 mL. For example, if the bottom of the meniscus is at 5.2 mL, you have added 2.2 mL of acid.. referring to the table below, you'll find your e-liquid nicotine content is 35.7 mg/mL.

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mL 0.1 N acid vs mg/mL in e-Liquid
(slight rounding applied)

0.2 mL 3.3 mg/mL
0.4 mL 6.5 mg/mL
0.6 mL 9.7 mg/mL
0.8 mL 13.0 mg/mL
1.0 mL 16.2 mg/mL

1.2 mL 19.5 mg/mL
1.4 mL 22.7 mg/mL
1.6 mL 26.0 mg/mL
1.8 mL 29.2 mg/mL
2.0 mL 32.5 mg/mL

2.2 mL 35.7 mg/mL
2.4 mL 38.9 mg/mL
2.6 mL 42.2 mg/mL
2.8 mL 45.4 mg/mL
3.0 mL 48.7 mg/mL

3.2 mL 51.8 mg/mL
3.4 mL 55.2 mg/mL
3.6 mL 58.4 mg/mL
3.8 mL 61.7 mg/mL
4.0 mL 64.9 mg/mL

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Happy vaping!
 
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Here's where I mention things that could possibly go wrong.

The main thing... and the only thing that could be expected to mess up this determination is the existence of unknown acidic or basic components in the e-liquid.

I can't imagine why anyone would be putting acids in an e-liquid, their presence would bias the results low (I.E., make the result of this determination come out low).

The more likely possibility would be the presence of other organic bases in an e-liquid. For example, let's say we have 36 mg/mL of nicotine, but the supplier's source also had 3.6 mg/mL of nornicotine. The nornicotine would cause the result to come out ~10% high. The procedure is not specific for nicotine, it will detect any base and we simply assume that nicotine is the only base present in the e-liquid. I'm not saying I expect this to happen, but I do feel like I should discuss this possibility.

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Bears,

The tobacco itself would give perhaps, total alkaloids.. mostly nicotine. Though with cigarette tobacco, I know they're good for lacing it with fun stuff like ammonia to push the nicotine towards the free base form. The ammonia itself would affect this sort of procedure.

The thing you have to look out for is the fact that any sort of determination involving a complex matrix (tobacco, snus, etc), involves extraction from that matrix, and then extraction efficiency becomes a factor. E-liquid, on the other hand, is a relatively simple matrix.
 

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Hey bears,

I hate it when some guy says something and it gets me thinking... :D

Anyway, I hope you folks find this interesting. I know there are threads here and there where folks salivate about the kind of stuff in this post.

I got to thinking I had nothing better to do this evening/morning... my fiancee was asleep, and I was bored. I went out and bought a pack of Marlboro Reds and set up shop in the prep lab next door to my instrument lab. I got the tobacco out of the cigarettes, pulverized it, and did some extractions to the point where I'd essentially isolated and concentrated the tobacco alkaloids from the matrix (tobacco).

This is probably greater than 90% nicotine, with some nornicotine, anabasine, anabatine, and a couple dozen other tobacco alkaloids, plus a few unknowns that I'd really rather not think about.

alkaloids.jpg

Don't ask for any hints. :grr:

That's around a tenth of a mL (100 microliters). Those are my fingertips in the green gloves (for scale). It titrated out to 105 mg of tobacco alkaloids (as nicotine). This could kill a person. I probably recovered half the nicotine, I would expect 200 mg or so in a pack of Reds, but the horrible emulsion I ran into really took a toll.

The next series of steps that actually isolates pure nicotine from the other alkaloids and impurities, I will not attempt, I want to live.

I extracted one pack of cigarettes, I know exactly what I'd doing, I have the appropriate equipment, facilities, and training. This was an ugly extraction. I haven't seen an emulsion this bad in my 20+ years on the job... and that was just ONE pack of cigarettes. Oh, it was 4 hours spent in a professional laboratory environment. At the recovery I got (~50%), it would take a CARTON of cigarettes to make 30 mL of 36 mg e-liquid and God only knows how much time. If anyone tries it at home, they stand a 100% chance of making a horrible mess, half a chance of perhaps getting something that can be mixed into e-liquid if they're daring, and a significantly greater than 0% chance of getting themselves killed.

If anyone goes on about needing to be able to make their own nicotine from cigarettes in case e-liquid gets banned. Do them a favor, tell them to buy e-liquid in bulk and freeze it.
 
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Awesome post DVape

What's this mention of freezing?
What's your opinion on the best long term storage practice and expected shelf life?


Hey bears,

I hate it when some guy says something and it gets me thinking... :D

Anyway, I hope you folks find this interesting. I know there are threads here and there where folks salivate about the kind of stuff in this post.

I got to thinking I had nothing better to do this evening/morning... my fiancee was asleep, and I was bored. I went out and bought a pack of Marlboro Reds and set up shop in the prep lab next door to my instrument lab. I got the tobacco out of the cigarettes, pulverized it, and did some extractions to the point where I'd essentially isolated and concentrated the tobacco alkaloids from the matrix (tobacco).

This is probably greater than 90% nicotine, with some nornicotine, anabasine, anabatine, and a couple dozen other tobacco alkaloids, plus a few unknowns that I'd really rather not think about.

View attachment 4194

Don't ask for any hints. :grr:

That's around a tenth of a mL (100 microliters). It titrated out to 105 mg of tobacco alkaloids (as nicotine). This could kill a person. I probably recovered half the nicotine, I would expect 200 mg or so in a pack of Reds, but the horrible emulsion I ran into really took a toll.

The next series of steps that actually isolates pure nicotine from the other alkaloids and impurities, I will not attempt, I want to live.

I extracted one pack of cigarettes, I know exactly what I'd doing, I have the appropriate equipment, facilities, and training. This was an ugly extraction. I haven't seen an emulsion this bad in my 20+ years on the job... and that was just ONE pack of cigarettes. Oh, it was 4 hours spent in a professional laboratory environment. At the recovery I got (~50%), it would take a CARTON of cigarettes to make 30 mL of 36 mg e-liquid and God only knows how much time. If anyone tries it at home, they stand a 100% chance of making a horrible mess, half a chance of perhaps getting something that can be mixed into e-liquid if they're daring, and a significantly greater than 0% chance of getting themselves killed.

If anyone goes on about needing to be able to make their own nicotine from cigarettes in case e-liquid gets banned. Do them a favor, tell them to buy e-liquid in bulk and freeze it.
 

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1 of the first posts i made on this forum, many months ago was is there any way to test nic level in a juice. guess what yours is the first answer.
i'm no scientist, math is not my strong suit. unless i'm counting money , lol. i commend you for all the work you have done. the more simple you can make it, the better. in fact, if you could put together a nic test kit, for the right price i would be first in line to buy one .:)
anyway i will be following this thread from now on, even if i don't understand half of the stuff. thx
 

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Awesome post DVape

What's this mention of freezing?
What's your opinion on the best long term storage practice and expected shelf life?

I really don't have anything solid that says freezing bulk e-liquid will help the shelf-life; It's nothing more that a hunch based on the fact that chemically, things happen more slowly when it's colder. I'll see if I can't come up with something more definite.
 

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bears,

Nope, got my B.S. in Chemistry back in 1987.
(I love how having a B.S. degree sounds, btw!)

I started with organic chemical research when I in college, graduated and worked on extractions of various classes of organic pollutants for a couple years, then gas chromatography analyzing those same pollutants for the next 5 years, then 5 more years analyzing organic air pollutants by GC/MS, and for the past decade I've been analyzing trace dioxin/PCB contaminants by high resolution GC/MS.

I've spent my whole career working with stuff that wants me dead and I've been trained accordingly. Even so, I still wasn't willing to do any more with that pack of Marlboro's than I did there. The laboratory is just not set up for the next series of steps (and I've not none some of the procedures since college), and the odds of killing myself or unknowingly leaving a residue that might kill someone else were, in my opinion, greater than 1%.
 

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if you could put together a nic test kit, for the right price i would be first in line to buy one .:)

My total lack of entrepreneurial spirit assures that's not likely to happen. :nah:

As a mental exercise, such a kit would contain a ten mL graduated vial with a cap to allow shaking, a 50 mL bottle of distilled water (with a dropped top), a 50 mL bottle of 0.1N acid (also with a dropper top), and a 30 mL bottle of the bromothymol blue solution (also with a dropper top).

The instructions would read:

1. add e-liquid to the 1 mL mark.
2. add 2 drops BTB solution.
3. add distilled water to the 3 mL mark, cap and shake gently.
4. add acid drop-wise with swirling to mix.
5. watch the color, it will go from blue, to green, to pale green, to yellow green, to yellow.
6. compare the volume of acid to your handy reference card for nicotine content.
 

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Well, I must say that you've done well. I got a degree in chemistry a couple of years after you (after first getting one in psychology, of all things), but I must say that you can blow me right out of the water, although I really didn't work in the field for more than a few years. Anyway, thanks a ton for your knowledge, and don't go away any time soon. :)
 
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