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Any tips about refilling my 501 cartridges

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  1. mrquixote77

    mrquixote77 New Member

    Jul 9, 2009
    I just got a new joye 501. It is great. How do you refill the cartridges?

    Links to threads, or descriptions. I have a bottle of wicked nic juice, and a dropper. What else do I need to know?
  2. sgupta

    sgupta Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 10, 2009
    I'm actually in the same boat as you (just ordered my 510 today!), but I've learned a good bit of what you can do to easily refill carts on here. Since I'm NOT an experts, you'll probably want to wait for a reply from experts, but here's how I think I'm going to do it.

    First of all, I'm buying a bunch of empty carts so I can reuse them (for the same flavor) until they're shot, then toss. If you're washing a pre-filled one to use a new flavor, I'm not sure how to do that yet, though I know it's possible.

    For new carts/same flavor I bought a little needle-tipped bottle (precision oiler is another name for it) on the suggestion of another poster. A syringe also works great. Then you want to stick the needle part through the foam liner to the bottom and fill with liquid til it's slightly wet at the top of the liner, but not heavily pooled either.

    If you don't have a needle-tipped bottle/syringe, I hear a paperclip bent out straight also works great - you just want to make sure the liquid can go to the bottom of the insert.

    I'm looking forward to trying it.
  3. KreeL

    KreeL Super Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 9, 2009
    West Texas
    That is a seriously good question, quixote. They include the dropper for a reason. Thank goodness!
  4. DC2

    DC2 Tootie Puffer Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 21, 2009
    San Diego
    Not "through" the filler, but down along the side of the filler against the cartridge edge. If you try to go down through the filler you will push the filler down, which means you'll have to pull it up again afterwards.

    Now, having said that, I have learned something that I had not heard before, and maybe it is just me being lame or something, but I am pretty certain at this point that this is solid knowledge within my brain now.

    I finally ran out of blank cartridges, and started refilling them for the first time ever. They do NOT work nearly as well as the first time I filled them. I have been struggling with them for a few days now, and tasting a lot of that plastic burning taste from lack of juice flowing to the atomizer.

    Everytime I look at the cartridge to see what is up, the damn filler is pushed down from the top of the cartridge. It is not in good solid contact with the atomizer. I have to keep pulling it up or topping it off to get some vapor flowing. But everytime I pull it up, it soon fails again, and I open it up to find it has been pushed back down again.

    I tired of this finally, and decided to clean one of my fillers before trying to reuse it. Works like a freaking charm. I just pulled it out, rinsed it in the sink, and smashed it flat in a paper towel to get all the water out. Then it is all fluffy and happy and fills the cartridge up all nice and puffy. And it works like new.

    So did I just stumble on to the holy grail of refilling cartridges, or am I somehow totally lame?

    I haven't heard anybody talk about refilling their cartridges and having to do anything to plump them up again other than just refilling them and moving on happily with their lives. But I can tell you right now, without doing this, all of my cartridges that I've tried to refill are shrunken, need to get pulled up, and get pushed downwards everytime I reconnect them.

    So although I've never heard anybody say it before, I strongly recommend cleaning out your cartridge filler before reusing it even once. As for me, I placed an order for 50 blank cartridges for only $12.00 at Heaven Gifts (Ruyan) and I will never again refill without cleaning them first. But if I can keep on getting them for 24 cents I may never even bother with that.

    Damn, I may have to start using that bag of polyfill I bought to restuff them myself at some point, as much as I loathe the idea. But I keep on hearing how people just refill them two or three times (at least) and I've never really heard anyone say they have to mess with them like I have to.

    Anyway, take it for whatever you think it's worth.
  5. KreeL

    KreeL Super Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 9, 2009
    West Texas
    You can flood a cart just as easily as flooding an atomiser. Loose juice in the bottom of your cart doesn't do you any good. The atomiser vaporizes juice from the top. Noobs that hear the 'gurgle' have loose juice. The juice should all be captured in the wick/stuffing. The best way to achieve this is with the cart straw mod. With the mod done properly, you don't need anything but a dropper to maximize your vaping experience. Another note - to properly modify the cart with a straw you need to grasp the science behind it. It's not hard, but it's necessary.

    Note to noobs - you CAN correctly refill and top up your carts with ONLY the dropper. Parked has an excellent video on this:

    YouTube - Janty Dura Cart Review how much liquid it holds!

    EDIT -- Note that he simply uses a needle to work the stuffing a bit. That is all.
  6. Less is more

    Less is more Full Member ECF Veteran

    But I LIKE a slight gurgling sound!! :D

    To top off dry filters, I just drip onto the filler and work it around with a toothpick a bit to have it settle and make sure the stuffing is even with the top of the cart.

    Haven't gotten to the cleaning of the cartridge phase yet.
  7. ZambucaLu

    ZambucaLu ECF Guru ECF Veteran

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    Nov 23, 2008
    Central NY, USA
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