Anybody let their NT breath?

[Silver5656]

So i've tried the ultrasonic, and the crock pot, and they all do well in "aging" the flavor. In my opinion, the CLS does get better (although I like it fresh as well). The Creme Brulee doesnt seem to change much. But one thing I noticed a few days ago, is breathing is a baaaaaaad idea (at least for a long time). I decided to let my CLS and CB breath for 6 hours, and now I feel like they've lost a lot of their flavor. I am sad I knew there was a risk......i'm just sad.

I didnt come here just to complain, i mean its totally my fault. What I wanted to know is do others let the NT juices breath? What was the result? Was my result just a fluke? I've decided (so far) to NOT use an ultrasonic or crock pot with my NT stuff, and will let it age naturally, and no breathing (aka leaving the cap off for an extended period of time)

 

[reef153]

I haven't noticed a difference and have left my caps of for a whole day several times. The virus, pbc, and creme brûlée have gotten better in my opinion. Haven't tried the CLS and Wakonda for a 2nd time yet, so hopefully I didn't ruin them

 

[Silver5656]

hmmmm, maybe its just me. I do have a fresh bottle of CB, and it has a ton more flavor than the one I let breath........weird

 

[Augmented Dog]

I agree with reef, mostly...
I prefer to allow the Virus and Wakonda to age/steep more naturally. That means I'll use them fresh when I get them so that I can experience how they change over the life of the bottle. Both have multiple flavor personalities that appear at different stages.
I find that CLS, CB and PBC grow richer in flavor if I give them additional steep and some breath time, but that's my taste.
Allowing CLS to breath shouldn't have ruined it. Did you shake well (the juice, not yourself) before you opened it to breath? Did you shake well before you decanted?
Try shaking it to mix it and then just let it rest for a day or so.

 

[Silver5656]

I did shake several times, VERY vigorously. I have let them rest for about 4 days so far. Will try again soon. I was hoping it was just a glitch and letting them rest would help. Will report back again.

At first I thought i had vapors tongue, but my other flavors were the same. I figure if the flavor doesnt come back i'll just buy more lol. or maybe i'll just buy more. Cant hurt to have a backup.....of a backup lol

 

[Silver5656]

I also noticed that my oreo has gotten better after the steep/breath. It was just the CLS and the CB that i noticed had a reduction in flavor (my 2 fav flavors)

 

[Augmented Dog]

Not a clue what happened, then.
Yeah, never hurts to have a back up supply!

 

[Dave Bowman]

From my experience, the only juices that benefit from breathing are ones that have an overly perfumy or alcohol smell and taste. The only one on the NT line that had those characteristics is the Rainier Cherry. I let the bottle sit for a day or so then carefully take off the cap and dripper tip. I breathed it for about 12 hours and I saw enough change that I was satisfied.

 

[DaBucs]

usually I breath my bottles for 24 hours when i first get them, then everyday i pump breath em...usually just for the first week i have the bottles, and then maybe one or 2 times a week or so after....that being said, I am hitting CLS from 5/5/14 and have gotten stock enough that i havent done that with my last couple orders...never noticed any loss thou from when i did the breath thing

 

[mistike]

I breathe anything that has a lot of the vailla extract in it. They all have a very specific alcohol taste, which I think is the vanilla extract's alcohol. So I open the bottles, take the tip off, and let them breathe for a few hours to a day. I've done this for CLS, CB, Frenilla, and Strawnilla. I didn't notice a loss of flavor at all.

Then steeping is done with the cap on, and a shake once every "when I remember to do it". Which is not often at all

 

[Megan Kogijiki Ratchford]

I have enough back stock I take the bottles out of the parcel, eat the Zotz and toss them in their inner bubble baggies into a cool dark drawer. They end up awesome. In addition, with your "baths" are you adding heat? Clark has said heat does terrible things to his juice. Avoid heat at all cost! The ones you are having trouble with, were they heated? If you opened them up when they were still warm the flavors could have been weakened? Not sure, just a thought...

 

[Silver5656]

ah!, yes I did heat some of the juice in a crockpot (at 130-135F) for 2 hours and then let them breath "warm". That might be it. D'oh. Will not be doing that again. I got to say, this thread was super informative. Thanks everybody! I did re-try the liquid after it sat for 5 days, and it definitely has lost flavor. So sad. Too broke to order more at the moment due to the ECC convention. Will have to wait.

 

[Megan Kogijiki Ratchford]

Yes, next time remember, cool and dark and patience will give you the best flavor.

 

[Augmented Dog]

I never even take the tip off NT during steeping. I figure that enough air is getting in to start oxidizing with the tip on. It may take a tad longer, but the result for me has always been Yum!

 

[Stacy1]

Has anyone ever asked the man himself about breathing his juices? I've never thought about it until reading this thread. I usually just take them out of the purple envelope, give them a good shake and put them away for a while, but now I'm curious.

 

[JPinSTL]

I don't let it breathe. I've got a couple bottles of bad juice in trades, and I think they were steeped improperly. I can't say for sure it was breathing that did it, but I tried it once and it gave the same "off" flavor. It usually takes me a couple days to go through a tank/reo bottle and while it does taste better day two, it starts developing that same taste if it hits three days.I just let it sit in the steep cabinet and give it a good shake before I use it.

 

[scratchtheweasel]

Since I have over leveraged myself on NT juice there's enough that some has spilled over into a second drawer that is now dubbed the steep drawer (incidentally also known as my pajama drawer). There's too much happy juice to vape all at once so some has naturally aged a bit, but really steeping has been a by product of juice attention deficit. The only breathing it gets is a quick squeezy squeeze to sniff it because I smile every time I get a whiff. So in short - buy too much so some will sit around and get yummier and vape it all till your face falls off.

 

[DaBucs]

Has anyone ever asked the man himself about breathing his juices? I've never thought about it until reading this thread. I usually just take them out of the purple envelope, give them a good shake and put them away for a while, but now I'm curious.

Here ya go

http://www.nicoticket.com/steeping-reccomendations-for-nicoticket-eliquid/

Steeping instructions:

Step 1) Shake the liquid vigorously when you receive it. Uncap the bottle of eLiquid and allow it to breathe with the cap off for 12-24 hours.

Step 2) After initial breathing time, recap your eLiquid and allow it to rest. During the remainder of the steeping period, shake your liquid vigorously once per day and allow to breathe for 5-15 minutes. Recap and store in a cool, dark, dry location away from children and pets.

 

[Kent Brooks]

Heat, Light, and Air are the enemies of eLiquid.

There is no circumstance where light is good - it degrades the nicotine in the liquid.

Heat can be applied in controlled ways to decrease steep time, sometimes with undesired results. It's not that it's not possible to decrease steep time with ultrasonic cleaners, hot water baths, or the warm rice method - it's just that your "playing with fire" if you don't know what you're doing. Some people have used heat steeping with (they say) great results... and then some people say "they followed the process" and it ruined the liquid. This leads me to say "why take the chance" - I generally recommend people let time take it's course and resist the temptation to expose liquid to heat.

On the air front - we have taken care of the vast majority of the "breathing" for you so even the above (that DB posted) is "above and beyond". Since the liquid is adequately pre-steeped, all that remains for you to do is periodically pulse the bottle, shake, and wait. Once a week will more than suffice, and no protracted period of breathing is really required. Obviously the more air that penetrates the liquid, the faster it will steep (oxidize)... even over protracted periods of time (weeks) I have experienced minimal flavor loss. Anything less than 24 hours, I don't detect any discernible change in flavor intensity.

My 2c - YMMV!

 

[DaBucs]

to be honest, i dont do the breathing/shaking anymore...unless its a juice i dont have stocked, then i will, so that i dont have to wait as long to tear it up ...my other regular stuff, i just throw in the drawer and in 2 months i will be ready to vape it as I go through the inventory