Anyone else tried the new Echo?

[johnnybass]

Okay I have been reading along this thread and keep seeing post's about burnt cartomizer's. Typically with a bottom coil cartomizer the only thing touching the atty wire is the wick, so any burnt taste some might be experiencing can only be caused by three specific problems
1. the cartomizer isn't full
2. it is empty and your just tasting residue burning off the coil
3. it isn't wicking correctly
I have only had one minor problem with a cartomizer, and between myself and a few friends we have about fourty cartomizer's floating around with no issues at all.
So in an interest to find out what may be a problem I took one apart to show how it is constructed, and try to clear the air and give some of you a little better understanding on how these cartomizer's are designed. (there is no point at which the filler material touch's the coil)
Just a note this cartomizer has had 80 ml of juice ran through it( backwoods brew malty toffee) and there is some discoloration due to cutting it open with a dremel.
A note to all viewing the one carto I had trouble with was not wicking correctly , this problem was solved by flooding it with about an extra 1ml of juice and just letting it run out the bottom then I let it sit overnight ( i also pushed down the filler slightly) since then no problems at all.

 

[johnnybass]

washvap, i was reading your post about lack of vapor. First off let me know what type of juice you are using as far as the pg/vg mix. this did happen to couple friends and their issues were completely different.
one issue was an underfilled cart.
the other was a cart that was wicking to fast therefore the wick was to wet. this was fixed by slightly pulling up the filler.
And typically these echo's are fog machines, after reading about cutoff times I tried to get mine to cut off but iI simply can't inhale that much vapor. so you probably have some kind of issue on yours.

 

[johnnybass]

As long as I am on the tips and tricks, I have tried to clean these by boiling but that didn't work to well.
I was able to find some straws that are just slightly bigger than the inner cart tube and was able to take out the filler wash and dry it . ( i also cut about 1/2" of filler material off) soaked the empty metal cart in vodka overnight then let it sit a little while and put it back together and it works like brand new. ( i only did this because of a heavy coffee flavor I couldn't get rid of )

 

[txtumbleweed]

washvap, i was reading your post about lack of vapor. First off let me know what type of juice you are using as far as the pg/vg mix. this did happen to couple friends and their issues were completely different.
one issue was an underfilled cart.
the other was a cart that was wicking to fast therefore the wick was to wet. this was fixed by slightly pulling up the filler.
And typically these echo's are fog machines, after reading about cutoff times I tried to get mine to cut off but iI simply can't inhale that much vapor. so you probably have some kind of issue on yours.

All four of my batteries will cutoff by taking a much longer drag then I normally take. The first few times I tried I didn't think it would cut off but they do. It isn't a problem at all for me but it is for a couple of people that like to take very long drags.

 

[johnnybass]

personally I like the ECHO-E model a little better I am just more used to manual battery's

 

[txtumbleweed]

personally I like the ECHO-E model a little better I am just more used to manual battery's

Not me I love the automatic 1300, it makes vaping more enjoyable for me. We are all different though that is why we have all the options. If it wasn't for the auto battery I would have stuck with the Go-Go as my main PV because it worked very good for me.

 

[melloyello]

Really, how much vapor do you get from it? I barely get any, might have a lemon or something. If there is such a thing in the e-cig world.

i get very good vapor, as much as from a LR boge

 

[txtumbleweed]

Ok, I'm feeling like I got gyped somehow because everybody I've heard from has either a really long or no cutoff. I guess I'll have to call CropDuster901 about this.

It was talked about quite extensively on The Echo Thread on the ego type pv forum on pages 9-12 and 16.

 

[washvap]

washvap, i was reading your post about lack of vapor. First off let me know what type of juice you are using as far as the pg/vg mix. this did happen to couple friends and their issues were completely different.
one issue was an underfilled cart.
the other was a cart that was wicking to fast therefore the wick was to wet. this was fixed by slightly pulling up the filler.
And typically these echo's are fog machines, after reading about cutoff times I tried to get mine to cut off but iI simply can't inhale that much vapor. so you probably have some kind of issue on yours.

One of the juices was a gift that was sent to be with my echo (very grateful but not loving it). It is a Dekang Wensten or Winston (forgot). I think that Dekang juices for the most part is 100% pg from what I've read but not for sure. The other was a Top Vapor liquid that I got as a free sample, which was a Creme Brulee. It's pg/vg, not sure of the % of each since it's not listed on the label.

I filled the first cart with a little more than a 100 drops to where there was a little drip or two that came out of the carto. Dried it and let it sit for an hour to see if there was anything else that was coming out. Which there wasn't and so, I just popped it on the battery and started vaping. This particular carto performed SLIGHTLY better than the other. Which was filled with a 100 drops.

The problem that I find is that it doesn't produce enough/barely any vapor. I found the cutoff for the battery because of that exact reason. Don't like to take long drags myself but couldn't help it with how little vapor I was getting.

 

[washvap]

Plus, it looks like the filler is pretty much stuck and so I have no idea how to either pull it up or if that is my issue at all with the poor performance of my echo.

 

[johnnybass]

the wick might be overly wet, you can try blowing it out from the mouthpiece and then try it again and see what happens

 

[swedishfish]

It was talked about quite extensively on The Echo Thread on the ego type pv forum on pages 9-12 and 16.

Is that the thread (which I can't find) that compares the go-go with the echo? Do you happen to have a link for that thead?
I'm still trying to figure out which one to get.

Thanks!

 

[MsOceanCity]

Sounds like there could be different cutoffs floating around. For those w/ a five second, is it a 650 or 1300mAh batt?

I have the Echo 1300mah. First carto I filled with TV's Geoff's Blend 80/20 PG/VG. I've been so obsessed with the darn cutoff, I hardly paid attention to the vapor. Flavor is excellent. No burning or leaking at all but vapor production is just so-so. I get tons more with any of my V4L batts, even my 2 year old ones. I contacted CropDuster901 and Tony replied that he will contact the MF about the cutoff issue and get back to me. He neither confirmed or denied it.

 

[txtumbleweed]

Is that the thread (which I can't find) that compares the go-go with the echo? Do you happen to have a link for that thead?
I'm still trying to figure out which one to get.

Thanks!

It is under the Model Specific Discussions sub forum ego type models here http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ego-type-models/189567-echo-thread.html
It isn't directly comparing it to the Go-Go but there are several threads on both models there.

 

[gel drops]

Holy cow Andy I got to hear that Echo after all this time,does that mean I can have more than one bullet now..

 

[JimmyJet]

Holy cow Andy I got to hear that Echo after all this time,does that mean I can have more than one bullet now..

Sure Barney.

 

[jp1000]

Okay I have been reading along this thread and keep seeing post's about burnt cartomizer's. Typically with a bottom coil cartomizer the only thing touching the atty wire is the wick, so any burnt taste some might be experiencing can only be caused by three specific problems
1. the cartomizer isn't full
2. it is empty and your just tasting residue burning off the coil
3. it isn't wicking correctly
I have only had one minor problem with a cartomizer, and between myself and a few friends we have about fourty cartomizer's floating around with no issues at all.
So in an interest to find out what may be a problem I took one apart to show how it is constructed, and try to clear the air and give some of you a little better understanding on how these cartomizer's are designed. (there is no point at which the filler material touch's the coil)
Just a note this cartomizer has had 80 ml of juice ran through it( backwoods brew malty toffee) and there is some discoloration due to cutting it open with a dremel.
A note to all viewing the one carto I had trouble with was not wicking correctly , this problem was solved by flooding it with about an extra 1ml of juice and just letting it run out the bottom then I let it sit overnight ( i also pushed down the filler slightly) since then no problems at all.

Just filled one yesterday - I got a bit of a burnt taste to it - I overfilled a bit and then let it sit overnight - still had the burnt taste. The liquid is 80/20 pg/vg clear (menthol type). I forced the filter material down a bit and it seems to be doing better. I think these cartos are very sensitive to positioning and appreciate your post on troubleshooting - initial slight overfill and if still getting a burnt taste - try pushing down the filter material a bit.

edit: still getting a bit of a burnt taste. Going to have to try a different carto. :sad

Edit 2: after letting it set half a day today, I took another taste and I am not getting a burnt taste - a wicking issue for sure. I hope it will continue to wick - I'll keep it wet and update.

 

[txtumbleweed]

DonDaBoomVape has a nice review of the Echo with a couple of videos and illustrations of the Echo http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-vapes-beautiful-automatic-mega-fat-batt.html

 

[swedishfish]

It is under the Model Specific Discussions sub forum ego type models here http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ego-type-models/189567-echo-thread.html
It isn't directly comparing it to the Go-Go but there are several threads on both models there.

Thank you!

 

[washvap]

the wick might be overly wet, you can try blowing it out from the mouthpiece and then try it again and see what happens

Tried that a few times and haven't really noticed a difference. I still doesn't really produce any vapor. What I can say is that the one filled with Wensten is definitely performing better than before but still. There's a lack of vapor, I mean the taste is there but barely anything else to back it up.

Any tips and tricks are appreciated. I really do wanna get this thing to work properly since I hate wasting money. Plus, I wanna see what people are talking about when they say this thing is a fog machine.