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Each person has to decide for themselves how far they want to go. If you haven't started it can be overwhelming. The good news, there is still time but it is running low.
If you plan on stocking up and are unsure or need help I am only a PM away, let me know.
Learning and going DIY with your juice will save a lot of money over retail/commercial juices. There are quality mods (reg and mech) that can be had on the cheap. Same with RDA's and RTA's (learn to build). There are sales all the time.
Mods with electronics will die at some point. Owning some mechs is wise.
Good thread where many deals/sales are posted: Are you done stocking up? and here too Bargain Bin Treasures!
Much info...
The Final Count Down -- Are You Ready?
The details...
Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!
If starting from scratch then build up your stash of nicotine first. Here is a nicotine calculator to help figure out how much you need. Vaping Community e-liquid Calculator - Vapocalypse Calculator
I know I've dumped a LOT of info upon you. Knowledge is Power.
Hope that helps.
True, nicotine is like liquid gold now. It's ah, special. I have tons in my freezer but you also need the equipment to use it.
IDK it's hard for me get excitable, although maybe I should. I joined when deeming was like 2018 or something and I began to panic then so I should be okay now.
I don't think "enough eliquid for the rest of your life" would work unless you froze it and maybe not even then. That is the beauty of DIY.
Anna
IDK it's hard for me get excitable, although maybe I should. I joined when deeming was like 2018 or something and I began to panic then so I should be okay now.
I don't think "enough eliquid for the rest of your life" would work unless you froze it and maybe not even then. That is the beauty of DIY.
Anna
Tobacco flavors may come under fire just because they are named after ... (drum roll) TOBACCO PRODUCTS! Anti-vape Nazis will climb on the prohibition band wagon and attack vaping from all angles.
I have 3 liters of 100mg/ml nic frozen and that should last me for a long while at 3mg mix strength. If I have to I can wean off tobacco and vape unflavored. Eventually, I could quit if unflavored becomes boring without nic. There would only be the hand to mouth habit to break.
I have 3 liters of 100mg/ml nic frozen and that should last me for a long while at 3mg mix strength. If I have to I can wean off tobacco and vape unflavored. Eventually, I could quit if unflavored becomes boring without nic. There would only be the hand to mouth habit to break.
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All you need is a set of $25 electronic scales, some bottles to mix in, pipettes/droppers, flavors, PG and VG and a YouTube video to get up to speed on DIY. I'm betting that everything except the Nic will be available for the foreseeable future.
Fair enough if you want to mix by weight. If you don't I doubt places like Walmart will stop giving out syringes soon. I mean.... Also lab equipment is not gonna go out of style either.
I don't love mixing by weigh so much but toe each their own. Etc.
Anna
I don't love mixing by weigh so much but toe each their own. Etc.
Anna
I first started with a scale, so it's my go to for DIY. I do 100ml bottles of unflavored. Pretty simple. From there, I use the unflavored as a base to mix flavors with a hypo if I want to. Mostly, the unflavored is my ADV.
Really, all you need is a glass container with markings on the outside for nic, PG, VG, and something to measure flavors before adding them. Blunt hypodermic needles work well for that. You'd have to measure the first time to create the markings. After that, it's mostly just a pouring operation.
Thank you SO much!Each person has to decide for themselves how far they want to go. If you haven't started it can be overwhelming. The good news, there is still time but it is running low.
If you plan on stocking up and are unsure or need help I am only a PM away, let me know.
Learning and going DIY with your juice will save a lot of money over retail/commercial juices. There are quality mods (reg and mech) that can be had on the cheap. Same with RDA's and RTA's (learn to build). There are sales all the time.
Mods with electronics will die at some point. Owning some mechs is wise.
Good thread where many deals/sales are posted: Are you done stocking up? and here too Bargain Bin Treasures!
Much info...
The Final Count Down -- Are You Ready?
The details...
Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!
If starting from scratch then build up your stash of nicotine first. Here is a nicotine calculator to help figure out how much you need. Vaping Community e-liquid Calculator - Vapocalypse Calculator
I know I've dumped a LOT of info upon you. Knowledge is Power.
Hope that helps.
Where can one purchase nicotine? I just ordered unflavored WTA VG from aromaejuice. Is that the sort of thing needed?
(Please don't bother reading this part if my personal woes are of no interest. i just have to get it out to folks who might understand.)
i only started getting into vaping a couple months ago. The main reason was to stop spending so much on cigarettes (health issues weren't a concern at all). i got devices, extra coils, and plenty of different e-liquids to try -- guestimating enough for about 6 months. It cost nearly $500 but i reasoned that it would all be made up on cigarettes not smoked and i'd save substantially after that was done.
THEN i joined this forum and learned about the "vapocalypse" that's coming.
Had i know beforehand, i probably would have abandoned the whole idea and just kept smoking as before. Now, it feels like i'm all in. After viewing the forum this morning, i ordered 9 more bottles of liquid that i can't really afford right now. That's about another dozen packs to not smoke. And i'm not even sure how long they can sit unused before they spoil. Meanwhile, i'm laid off. i've a return-to-work date and getting the $600 stimulus bonus, so it's ok, except my benefit year ends soon and i'll have to re-apply, not knowing when or even if the benefit payments will continue. At the same time, my husband has had his work hours & pay reduced temporarily, was getting partial unemployment payments + the $600, then his employer put him on the work-share program and he hasn't gotten a payment for 3 weeks now and we can't find out what's going on.
Now i read that not only will almost all e-liquids disappear but devices, too. How many mods, tanks, and coils can one buy?
i've just discovered this wonderful thing and it's going to Hell right after. All for no good reason, only for lies propagated by a few giant corporations protecting their billions at the cost of peoples' well-being. It's all so evil and awful and frustrating. i've been on the edge of tears all day.
There's more but i'll shut up now.
Thanks for giving me a place to let it out.
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The best thing to do is learn DIY ejuice. There are lots of tutorials on YouTube and you don't have to start out complicated, just a single flavor to begin with. There are plenty of ejuice calculators online to help you. Most people recommend Heartland for their nic, but I get mine at Liquid Nicotine Wholesalers. You'll need PG and VG, scales or measuring equipment, flavor, and bottles. Start small until you get the hang of it. The only thing you will need to stock up on before the Deeming is the nicotine, everything else has other uses and can be purchased later.
I did not mean to minimize your woes. I simply meant it might not work.
DIY is a great option and I got into it myself when I joined ECF before the deeming date was pushed back two years. I hear you, I was super anxious too. It probably pushed me into DIY juices and RTAs and whatnot much faster than I otherwise would have gone. I too spent a fortune. I'm only 45 so I needed a LOT of nicotine to freeze.
I'd recommend if you can, checking out Heartland Vapes budget nic and getting some, and freezing it, in glass if you possibly can. PG and VG will be there, you can start slow on DIY but nic is soon to be taxed into obliteration, banned or both. A few liters of frozen nic will bring you peace of mind, and the rest of DIY (I.e flavors, VG/PG will be there and you can start slow.) It doesn't take 700 flavors to make some juices you will enjoy.
I'm very sorry for your situation, I feel for you I really do. If I had not had the time I did have to prepare I think it would have been much harder, indeed.
I'm sorry if you took my comment as minimizing your problems, that wasn't my intention.
There is a thread around where older members have stored nic frozen in glass and it really does appear to become totally quiescent, and it will last much much longer than frozen eliquid where thing might precipitate out.
If there is any way I can help, let me know I don't want you to give up vaping either! I am sure I could find a clone RTA or RDA to send you and you don't even have to use it, but it may bring you some peace of mind to know it is there when you are ready. PM if you would like that and tell me what style of vaper you are.
Anna
DIY is a great option and I got into it myself when I joined ECF before the deeming date was pushed back two years. I hear you, I was super anxious too. It probably pushed me into DIY juices and RTAs and whatnot much faster than I otherwise would have gone. I too spent a fortune. I'm only 45 so I needed a LOT of nicotine to freeze.
I'd recommend if you can, checking out Heartland Vapes budget nic and getting some, and freezing it, in glass if you possibly can. PG and VG will be there, you can start slow on DIY but nic is soon to be taxed into obliteration, banned or both. A few liters of frozen nic will bring you peace of mind, and the rest of DIY (I.e flavors, VG/PG will be there and you can start slow.) It doesn't take 700 flavors to make some juices you will enjoy.
I'm very sorry for your situation, I feel for you I really do. If I had not had the time I did have to prepare I think it would have been much harder, indeed.
I'm sorry if you took my comment as minimizing your problems, that wasn't my intention.
There is a thread around where older members have stored nic frozen in glass and it really does appear to become totally quiescent, and it will last much much longer than frozen eliquid where thing might precipitate out.
If there is any way I can help, let me know
I don't want you to give up vaping either! I am sure I could find a clone RTA or RDA to send you and you don't even have to use it, but it may bring you some peace of mind to know it is there when you are ready. PM if you would like that and tell me what style of vaper you are.Anna
Vaping is dangerous. Period.
You may choose it as a safer method of nicotine delivery (as I do), but please, do not try to convince anybody it's a nice and safe method of self pleasuring.
You may choose it as a safer method of nicotine delivery (as I do), but please, do not try to convince anybody it's a nice and safe method of self pleasuring.
Definition of ''dangerous'' please.
Just saying,because for example every time i use a gas stove to cook that is also ''dangerous'',same thing if i get in my car...i could get hit,brakes could malfunction and i crash into a tree so you see that is also ''dangerous''.
None ''dangerous'' world? not really feasible unless you want to live like this:
Various grades of dangerous,just wondering in which one of those grades does vaping fit in.
*Rated your post as funny because that ''self pleasuring'' part cracked me up*
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As an ex-hard-smoker I believe I do have a right to classify vaping as self pleasuring (not real smoking anyway).
As for "dangerous" - it means not completely safe. Safer than car, more dangerous than stove.
Hope this helps.
Never said you didn't have the right to call it ''self pleasuring'',just struck me funny as in something that should be reserved for the privacy of one's boudoir.
Nevertheless i just replied because your comment about ''dangerous'' just seems kinda out of place but you're free to comment whatever you want.
cheers
There's some shaky ground there. Nothing is completely safe. If you use the word dangerous in that way it kind of loses its meaning. The common usage of the word carries an implication that the level of danger is significant. I would be happy to go along with the statement that vaping isn't completely safe but I would be uncomfortable saying that vaping is dangerous.
We're already there now and I would like one of those, for Me. Especially like the rear exhaust!
Ah yes, life is just like a box of chocolates. Risk everywhere. Reward too.
Not to be all gloomy but we All know there is an End to each Story. So there is That.
1/2 full or 1/2 empty ... always a choice. I choose 1/2 full.
YMMV ...
... and all that.
Dangerous falls into the category of risk exceeds gain. A personal transient calculation.
But for our miraculous ability to suspend disbelief, we'd never get out of bed.
Good luck.
But for our miraculous ability to suspend disbelief, we'd never get out of bed.
Good luck.
I (respectfully!) disagree. Simple explanation - you cannot define gain. It depends on person, on circumstances, on weather, on the wish of gods.Dangerous falls into the category of risk exceeds gain. A personal transient calculation.
But for our miraculous ability to suspend disbelief, we'd never get out of bed.
Good luck.
And how, for example, to classify loosing of a finger? Is it dangerous situation?
For vaping - my gain is a satisfaction of my nicotine hunger. If I am willing to sacrifice my finger for it, is vaping dangerous? And if I will give a year of my life for my nicotine?
Tobacco companies aren't the villains...
Decades of lies, bribing governments, costing health services millions or trillions, not to mention the untimely deaths of God knows how many individuals across the globe and the accumulated pain and emotional cost to all of those families...
May I have an invite to the planet that you're living on?
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