APV? I dont get it

[disturbed1]

Okay I just dont get it what is the big deal with all thees big dollar mods. what am I missing? Im not saying the people cant spend the money on what ever they wont. I just dont get it. what are you getting with a mod like a GG that you cant get from something like a LT other than looks. I do have to say the GG and modes of that natue are vary nice looking. But are they any better. If someone could explain pleas do.

 

[iamtumus]

the same reason someone would buy a BMW instead of a Toyota.
One might be cheaper and even more economical, but one just has a certain level of class.

 

[Levitas]

I spent $160 on my ProVari. But, I did so not for the looks (though it does look sexy) rather for the function and durability. As for the GG, no thanks

 

[disturbed1]

so its all about the cool factor? I understand that. I just thought there mite be a quality differences.

 

[Boothvilleboi]

Idk about the GG. But as for other mods build quality and function are huge factors. Take the REO for example. A no solder mod that you can wash in the sink and a juice feeder that works quite amazingly. Hard to break. Very hard. The LT is a good mod. And its considered an apv. I have one but its iffy when it comes to the construction and its only as good as its Creator. But nonetheless not a bad choice. Then I try to think of where the money goes. I would rather buy American but that's just me. You get what you pay for in life.

 

[six]

The Lava Tube is also considered an "APV". So, maybe your question would be better phrased as something like "What does a more expensive battery holder do that my LT can't?"

And to answer that question: Some of it is purely aesthetics. Some of it is in quality of material and craftsmanship. And, some of it is in features. --> My preference of "APV" has included items as inexpensive as fifteen or twenty bucks all the way to two hundred and some odd dollars. My most recent acquisitions are all American made feeders. If we compare the LT to something like the REO VV Woodville, the differences in features are obvious - the difference in build quality is also obvious - and the build materials are very different.

Hope that helps.

 

[Levitas]

A little off topic, but, how much does a lava tube run these days?

 

[disturbed1]

I was just using GG as an example at is has a fairly large price tag. I was was wondering about all high priced mods. Is there a quality to justify the cost?

 

[Orobas]

I understand people love their provaris and think the sun rises and sets on it. What I can't decide is if it's really the be all to end all, or if there's some degree of justifying the cost to one's self.

In any case I'm not in a position to purchase a device that is equivalent to a third of my rent, not when I'm about to go back to school and the expense associated with that.

So if you can afford it and love it, fine, that's good, I'm happy for you.

But when the universal response to any other device in any other thread is "IT'S CRAP, GET A PROVARI!" and newfriends asking for advice for a step up from a cigalike get told "GET A PROVARI!" and are probably scared away by the price point.. that's when i start to get a little irked.

 

[Levitas]

I understand people love their provaris and think the sun rises and sets on it. What I can't decide is if it's really the be all to end all, or if there's some degree of justifying the cost to one's self.

In any case I'm not in a position to purchase a device that is equivalent to a third of my rent, not when I'm about to go back to school and the expense associated with that.

So if you can afford it and love it, fine, that's good, I'm happy for you.

But when the universal response to any other device in any other thread is "IT'S CRAP, GET A PROVARI!" and newfriends asking for advice for a step up from a cigalike get told "GET A PROVARI!" and are probably scared away by the price point.. that's when i start to get a little irked.

Lol.

The ProVari is an excellent PV, indeed! I don't know about the end all to end all, but, a great pv no doubt!

I could normally never afford this device. I rewarded myself last year with some of my student loan money for having a 4.0 GPA.

Then I realized something. There's no way I can afford to reward myself every time I do good in school. So instead, I reward my son and fiancee. Does that make sense to anyone?

 

[MustangSallie]

I definitely didn't buy a ProVari for its looks. I took a long time before I really even liked the looks. I also bought my first ProVari before the LT came out. Even now that the LT is out, I would still buy a ProVari over the LT. You only realize how solid and durable they are after you own one.

As for my wood mods. Well, those you most definitely buy for the looks.

 

[anavidfan]

I dont own any of those beauties, but from talking to people out there that own them, I gather that its all in the details. Yes, they basically are a tube that holds your batteries, nothing real mysterious. The real big difference is the thing that goes on top of the battery. That is what really affects your taste and vape quality.
Again there are many new much less expensive juice delivery systems out there, phoenix, vivi nova, great attys, etc.

The difference you are paying for is the engineering behind the beauty. These devices are made to last a lifetime without minor fixes. The stainless steel they use is the highest quality, some use surgical grade etc. If you run your fingers down any of the joints or edges they are flawless. There are many AVP of the same quality made in the US. ie; super-T manufacturing(the precise). Not sure if the Zenesis is US made.

Yes a toyota will get you to where you want to go as will the rolls royce, but its all in the engineering, though I should probably say the rolls royce owner needs a live in mechanic to keep it finely tuned to keep it going for a couple hundred years.

Its all in how you want to take the ride.

 

[disturbed1]

I just got a Twist and a vivi nova and so far love them. I do like the look of some the the more pricey mods but cant see my way to the cost.

 

[Levitas]

I agree, to an extent.

I think the ProVari is more than just a battery holder, because it fits my needs almost perfectly. Variable voltage is the only way to go, in my opinion. Altering carto/atty resistances to fit the need of a standard potential (non-vv mods/devices) is more than a headache for myself.

Also, some of the features that some might find useless in the ProVari i.e. the Battery Voltage indicator, is invaluable to me because I do not own a multi-meter and sometimes I need to know if I need a fresh battery in there before I start a long day. The atomizer ohn indicator is also very helpful. Especially for people who horde mass amounts of attys and cannot remember what resistance they are (those without it labels on it, of course).

Now, when comparing the ProVari to the LT (which, by the way, can anyone give me heads up on how much one of these run?), I can see how some question spending more for the ProVari (aside of any additional features one holds over the other?) And that's where we agree.

 

[disturbed1]

A little off topic, but, how much does a lava tube run these days?

iv seen them for about $100 for a kit but im sure there are better deals to be had
http://www.volcanoecigs.com/lavatube-kit-1.html

 

[yzer]

You don't need to spend big bucks to get a good APV.


An APV or 'mod' is a high-performance model, of the second and third-generation class. The basic definition of an APV is that it uses replaceable, generic batteries and/or does something regular ecigs don't. Almost all ecigs of all types use 3.7 volt batteries, although a few use two 3 volt cells in series. Basically, any device that can have the batteries taken out and replaced is an APV. There are a couple of exceptions to this rule - APVs that have integral battery packs that are not user-replaceable, such as the Darwin.

Although an APV was originally just a device with bigger batteries, nowadays they often have extra features. The advantage is they use large, generic batteries; and instead of using the small cells found in cigarette clone models (known as minis or first-generation models), the larger batteries allow better performance and can be bought at lower cost from many sources online. The standard features of any APV therefore include bigger batteries that have more power due to less voltage drop, last longer, and are cheaper per unit of power. An APV that is built to be small and compact, and about the same size as a mini e-cigarette, will lose out on battery life and power - because where batteries are concerned, size is everything.

Extra features an APV might also have are liquid feed, the ability to use a wide range of heads (the end fittings at the mouthpiece end), higher power capability, very long battery life, variable voltage (this allows you to tune the power to the end fitting in use and to your personal taste), digital readout, and so on.

All APVs use a manual switch, and the vast majority are much larger than a regular e-cigarette. As they come in the form of a thick tube or a box (called a boxmod), they look nothing like a cigarette. This tends to put off new users, but experienced users don't care as they appreciate the benefits. There is also the advantage that people don't think you are smoking, which you will find is very useful.

Many owners have several different models for different purposes - for example a standard e-cig such as an eGo type for out & about, and a large APV for home use.

The term used for many years for these XL and full-feature models was 'mod', as originally they were modified flashlights, laser pointers and similar, used because they had bigger batteries. Describing the new high-performance, luxury, multi-function, expensive, long production run, 3rd-generation devices as 'mods' does not do them justice at all, so we are moving toward using the far more accurate term 'APV' or advanced personal vaporizer. These are the McClaren cars of the e-cig world.

Quick Answers

For instance, the APV I use is very inexpensive: less than $50. It's an E-Power 14650 and is considered an APV because it is a tube mod. That is, it uses standard replaceable cylindrical 3.7V Li-ion batteries.

However, the E-Power 14650 features circuitry that delivers regulated 3.7V. That's something a much more expensive APV like a Bam, a Reo or a Silver Bullet will not provide.

So, an APV or a mod can be a lot of things. Basically, it uses standard cylindrical batteries and does something the cigarette-sized PVs will not do.

 

[Secret_77]

I have to agree on the manufacturing, but as far as finding them practical I am just not there yet. Too many bells and whistles for me.

I don't have much interest in Variable Voltage, since the hotter the vape the less I like it. Equally, I would love to have a Pure Smoker Legacy but even $90.00 for a mechanical mod is still too much for me.

 

[disturbed1]

I like my twist and Vivi nova but I like the price better lol

 

[rondasherrill]

To answer the question of the title, almost nobody really "gets it", until they try one out. It's fairly obvious just by reading a few posts... Once people try an APV, they very rarely go back.

I remember back when I was so excited about my V4L kit, and thought, "There's NO WAY I'm gonna pay that much for a PV!" I have had a Provari since about my second month of vaping...

 

[VapDrak]

I agree, to an extent.

I think the ProVari is more than just a battery holder, because it fits my needs almost perfectly. Variable voltage is the only way to go, in my opinion. Altering carto/atty resistances to fit the need of a standard potential (non-vv mods/devices) is more than a headache for myself.

Also, some of the features that some might find useless in the ProVari i.e. the Battery Voltage indicator, is invaluable to me because I do not own a multi-meter and sometimes I need to know if I need a fresh battery in there before I start a long day. The atomizer ohn indicator is also very helpful. Especially for people who horde mass amounts of attys and cannot remember what resistance they are (those without it labels on it, of course).

Now, when comparing the ProVari to the LT (which, by the way, can anyone give me heads up on how much one of these run?), I can see how some question spending more for the ProVari (aside of any additional features one holds over the other?) And that's where we agree.

I just ordered this LT Uniq - Lava V 3.0 Variable Voltage Device - Silver for 50$.
It's the last version and got good reviews.
Hope this helps