APV? I dont get it

[zoiDman]

so its all about the cool factor? I understand that. I just thought there mite be a quality differences.

There is the Cool Factor. Sure.

But Quality plays a role also.

I have a Mini-LT. The Plastic end cap cover Fell Off the 3rd Day I had it. The Up Button is Lose and the LED is a Tad Crooked. It still works Fine but kinda feels like a POS in my hand.

Whereas I have Never had a Single issue with my Provari and it Feels an Looks the same as the Day I got it. Outstanding.

So I can understand why someone would want to pay more and get something that Feels Better, has Higher Quality and a Longer Warantee. I can also understand if someone doesn't.

 

[VapDrak]

Hey Levitas
Cool Avatar by the way!!!

 

[disturbed1]

Its not the AVP I dont understand as mush as the cost for some of them. The LT isnt to bad but $200 + is where i get lost and iv seen just attys for bug dollars as well

 

[Levitas]

Hey Levitas
Cool Avatar by the way!!!

Thank you, friend.

I see you share a common fantasy interest. Nerds will rule this Earth

 

[disturbed1]

Thank you, friend.

I see you share a common fantasy interest. Nerds will rule this Earth

they already do...lol

 

[donnah]

There are many things ive bought and regreted. Thought they were a waste of money. My provari is definately NOT one of them!
It has taken most of the guesswork and frustration out of vaping. To me, thats priceless.

 

[SABOTEUR]

The Provari certainly doesn't me to defend it. For the record, I couldn't afford one either. I also couldn't afford to keep replacing or purchasing pvs that inevitably failed to meet my expectations. I've spent a small fortune on these things and decided it was time to stop mucking about and purchase a pv that's proven to perform consistently.

So I bit the bullet and purchased a Provari. I'm relieved to say it performs exceptionally well. Unless I lose or damage this thing, I won't have to buy another pv for quite some time.

So whether anyone likes it or not, they'll continue to hear praise and recommendations for The Provari, just as they'll hear the same for ANY product that performs well.

As far as being "over priced", the price one pays for something is relative to the value obtained. $50 is "over priced" for a pv that doesn't deliver. Considering the craftsmanship and performance I've received from the Provari, I consider it money well spent.

 

[Closetpan]

Lavatube is what 70 dollars, so pay another 100 dollars and you get a quality device like a Provari. That when you put in a dual coil it will actually give you the volts you put in. The Lavatube is not only poorly made but lies it can not run dual coils. It does not give the readings you set. The new Smok Gripper is a much better mod to make the comparison. The Variable Voltage does not lie to you but even then are you willing to pay 100 for a quality looking device. Many people are willing too and Provari is made in America. Some people like to get things made here...especially juice's.

 

[Baditude]

I began vaping just four months ago. I started with a Smokeless Image Volt starter kit, with 2 extra mini-batteries in addition to the 2 that came with it. At that time, I believed as most new vapors do, that my devices needed to look like a cigarette. It only took a couple of weeks before I grew tired of keeping up with charging all those batteries during the course of the day.

I moved up to the Ego-sized X2 batteries by SI. Better battery time, but I was longing for the larger juice capacity devices that the big battery mods could handle. To be able to vape on one battery and tank of juice for an entire day or two would be vapor's heaven.

I couldn't decide between which first big battery mod I should get between an AltSmoke BB or Silver Bullet. I ended up getting both at the same time. Money wasn't really an issue, I thought, I'm just putting money that I would have spent on cartons of cigarettes to my new-found project to quit smoking. I was really quite satisfied with the long battery life and larger juice capacity of tanks for a couple of months.

Then I visited the newly opened AltSmoke store in Columbus. I felt like a kid in a candy or toy store. I had never been around any other human being who was openly vaping, and here were several customers coming and going, all vaping their APV's in one place. Then, owner Rob took my own Silver Bullet loaded with my tank of favorite juice, and loaded it with a 5v battery. Wow! Verrrrry nice! Then he let me try his own Kicked Silver Bullet with my juice at 6v. To paraphrase PSuardo when he reviewed the Provari 2, "Now I understand."

I seriously considered getting a variable voltage device at that point. I could have kicked my own Silver Bullet, but you have to remove it and the battery and adjust it with a screwdriver every time you change the voltage. I'm all about simplicity; that method would be too inconvenient. I wanted a dedicated VV device.

The Provari's reputation alone nearly sold me, but when the new colors came out recently, that made the deal for me. And unless you have seen one, held one, and vaped one, you just wouldn't understand.

View attachment 128517 My current family.

 

[RickMc]

I understand people love their provaris and think the sun rises and sets on it. What I can't decide is if it's really the be all to end all, or if there's some degree of justifying the cost to one's self.

In any case I'm not in a position to purchase a device that is equivalent to a third of my rent, not when I'm about to go back to school and the expense associated with that.

So if you can afford it and love it, fine, that's good, I'm happy for you.

But when the universal response to any other device in any other thread is "IT'S CRAP, GET A PROVARI!" and newfriends asking for advice for a step up from a cigalike get told "GET A PROVARI!" and are probably scared away by the price point.. that's when i start to get a little irked.

I do own one and love it, but that annoys the **** out of me, too. There are a lot of good PV's out there, and the "P word" is only one of them. It's not a universal answer to anything, or even everyone's cup of tea.

 

[six]

Its not the AVP I dont understand as mush as the cost for some of them. The LT isnt to bad but $200 + is where i get lost and iv seen just attys for bug dollars as well

The standard reply to this is to ask how much you used to spend on tobacco per year. And, it is a valid fact to consider. If you were a PAD smoker, you spent anywhere from $1500 to $2500 or more per year (depending on brand and where you live). A high end mod that has the potential to be perfectly operational long after you are still operational for a couple of hundred bucks seems like a bargain.

That said: Getting a machinist to retool their shop and make a hundred or a few hundred or so of whatever item you want made isn't cheap. Web design, webhosting, merchant account, and other marketing isn't cheap. A business license, business insurance, and a place to do business are not cheap. Procuring electronics for those devices that require them isn't cheap. I could make a serious list about all of the expenses there are in owning a business, but that's probably enough to think about right there. On top of it all, no matter what business you're in, you still need to feed your kids, keep the power on in your house, and put fuel in your gas tank so trying to make a profit factors in as well.

The cost advantages Chinese manufacturing has are substantial. In many cases, those advantages also come with some disadvantages often found in areas like quality control.

 

[stv4SC]

Agree with this as well. Until you own and use a ProVari to compare you can't appreciate the difference. It is my reference mod. My Buzz pro can compete but and it plays nice with Phoenix atty. My atty of choice is MarkT by mark bugs. That is quality and function. Next for my enjoyment is a Katana V3 by POC and then a Caravela by Pedro. Come home Euro mods.
That is a tour of Romania, Croatia, and Spain. Next Russia have it picked out already hahahaha.

 

[rondasherrill]

Agree with this as well. Until you own and use a ProVari to compare you can't appreciate the difference. It is my reference mod.

...My atty of choice is MarkT by mark bugs.

Same setup here. Provari with a Mark-T is great. Have you tried putting a horizontal SS Mesh wick on it? I been rocking that for a couple weeks and it is just, WOW.

My one Provari is my only PV, and I been rocking it almost as long as I been vaping, without any issues.

 

[anavidfan]

To answer the question of the title, almost nobody really "gets it", until they try one out. It's fairly obvious just by reading a few posts... Once people try an APV, they very rarely go back.

I remember back when I was so excited about my V4L kit, and thought, "There's NO WAY I'm gonna pay that much for a PV!" I have had a Provari since about my second month of vaping...

I think somewhere in that world of e-cig thoughts, we were thinking alike. 3 and a half months ago, I thought the cig-alike was such a cool thing, it was fun faking people out and smiling as they freaked out and then tell them it was an e-cig. I was pretty happy till I found myself spending more time charging it than using it. I found this site and I ended up with a KGO set. I was in vape heaven. I thought I dont need those giant tube things, who wants to be seen with something like that out and about. But they sure looked nice, being a lover of all things stainless steel.

Again, I found a few minor limitations, mostly esthetically. I found having to fill up a carto all time distracting. I actually found myself needing to charge them up couple times a day. All the accessories were also looking a bit top heavy; phiniac tanks, triple-v tanks, and also found that the voltage kept dipping as I used them and performance was lacking. I feel in love with the Super-T precise, but the price. I couldnt justify the price.

Looked into the Bolt, but read alot of threads regarding the switches and wireing having to be re-soldered. Not difficult, but did I really want to buy a soldering unit? I saw the Silver Bullet, way to big and clunky. Saw its little brother, the BB but the power was not much better than the KGO. Saw the Chuck nice, but for the price didnt think it was not much better made than the bolt, but definitely much better built, a LOT. I waited , searched for something well built but not wallet breaking. Simple to use, not too much tinkering.

I finally ordered a new MOD. Im waiting for it to come in, and of course besides it being solid, mechanical, rugged, tuff, extremely safe and well built and made in the US,but most important; It comes in BLACK, all black no chrome, bit of stainless, just a "touch" for accents. Cant wait, and I will let you all know if there is a difference in a more expensive battery container. Its a 3.7 v, with 18650 2000 mah batteries.

 

[bjannr]

I had a Provari and sold it. I much prefer my mechanical mods. In my opinion, mechanical mods are woth more due to their durability. I have REOs, a BB, and a Precise+. If I want to change my watts, I just make a different coil on a rebuildable atomizer. I have had far fewer failure rates on mechanical mods than mods with wires. So I would spend more for a mechanical mod. But for now I am set for the vaping holocaust if it comes.

 

[bruiser]

Here's a deal on a LT mod. It's a Young June with the 3 amp limit, and it will power an EMDCC all the way up to 6V. If you order it, be sure to get the LT extension so you can use skirted cartos and tanks with it, unless you already have some.

Variable Voltage 1.5 Mod Kit - Smoke Anywhere For Penny's, LLC Store

 

[Levitas]

Variable Voltage 1.5 Mod Kit - Smoke Anywhere For Penny's, LLC Store

Pretty good deal, for real. I don't own a Lava tube, if I had the funds, I'd probably buy it right now. Just to have for work and out-goings.

Though, it does sorta make me think about the quality of it as well.

 

[JENerationX]

I use my Volt X2s out and about, but love my Zenesis mini for chain vaping at home. For me it was about the aesthetics mostly at first. It's a fantastic looking device. It looks like it came from a jewelers case and feels like it to. On top of that, I can put any juice I want in it without any concern, the taste is much more pure with nothing but stainless steel, fused quartz, and a kanthal wire touching the juice, and it's rebuildable so I've cut down on any carto or clearo purchases. If I were to solely vape on the Zenesis, my cost would be juice supplies, and about $30 of mesh and wire would last me 2-3 years.