Are 260 Watts Necessary?

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As I look on WetVape's section for their newer products I stumble upon another product by SMY, the same company that brought us the God mod which capped out at 180 Watts. SMY has outdone themselves this time with what was listed as the "Super Mod" which reads from 7 watts up to 260 watts and fires between .3 ohms and 4.0 ohms.
Though SMY is pushing further and further ahead of the competition with huge wattage, I've gotta ask- do we need this?
With the introduction of the rDNA 40 right after the release of the IPV 3, (which has dropped significantly in price on WetVape's, all the way down to $109.99) and its ability to run at 150 watts, at which many people do not even venture it seems almost useless to have a mod that reads at 260 watts unless it is also able to charge my phone in the go.
With a reading of 260 watts I can only imagine that juice is run through like water through a broken levy. With my limited knowledge of vaping I must assume the best juices to use with wattage that high would be higher vg based juices, such as an 80/20 blend which will leave you with highly muted flavores.
Sure SMY may have made the next big thing for competitive vaping, but is a mod like this good for the casual vapor, or do you think it would only leave a bad taste in our mouths (burnt cotton)?
 

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As I look on WetVape's section for their newer products I stumble upon another product by SMY, the same company that brought us the God mod which capped out at 180 Watts. SMY has outdone themselves this time with what was listed as the "Super Mod" which reads from 7 watts up to 260 watts and fires between .3 ohms and 4.0 ohms.
Though SMY is pushing further and further ahead of the competition with huge wattage, I've gotta ask- do we need this?
With the introduction of the rDNA 40 right after the release of the IPV 3, (which has dropped significantly in price on WetVape's, all the way down to $109.99) and its ability to run at 150 watts, at which many people do not even venture it seems almost useless to have a mod that reads at 260 watts unless it is also able to charge my phone in the go.
With a reading of 260 watts I can only imagine that juice is run through like water through a broken levy. With my limited knowledge of vaping I must assume the best juices to use with wattage that high would be higher vg based juices, such as an 80/20 blend which will leave you with highly muted flavores.
Sure SMY may have made the next big thing for competitive vaping, but is a mod like this good for the casual vapor, or do you think it would only leave a bad taste in our mouths (burnt cotton)?

With people vaping at 100 watts on mechs, I'd say it's needed.
For somebody who vapes at 100 watts, a 200 watt box would be the desired mod.

Another thing about it is it uses 12 volts input.
I've never vaped over 15 watts, but I'd seriously consider a box mod that takes a 12 volts input, because there's a wide variety of 12dc boxes I could use to power it off the wall
 

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Yes, but only if you need 27K lumens.


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As I look on WetVape's section for their newer products I stumble upon another product by SMY, the same company that brought us the God mod which capped out at 180 Watts. SMY has outdone themselves this time with what was listed as the "Super Mod" which reads from 7 watts up to 260 watts and fires between .3 ohms and 4.0 ohms.
Though SMY is pushing further and further ahead of the competition with huge wattage, I've gotta ask- do we need this?

I know I don't. I'm very seriously into low & slow.
 
I understand that mods can push 80 watts to 100 watts depending on build and battery, but with a regulated mod the same amount of wattage is not needed in order to reach the same quality of performance of an unregulated. That can be displayed with the simple example of the people that have commented here saying they don't go over a certain limit, none of which were close to 260 watts, or a 100 for that matter.
260 watts on a regulated device is going to act a lot differently that 260 unregulated.
 

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Sure SMY may have made the next big thing for competitive vaping, but is a mod like this good for the casual vapor, or do you think it would only leave a bad taste in our mouths (burnt cotton)?

Are 260 Watts Necessary? No.

However, what is needed and what is wanted by some people are two completely different things. Who needs more than 80 horse power in a car? Who needs more than 800 square feet in a house? I could go on, but I think you get the idea :). No-one. Who wants more? A lot of people.

On the technical side, I've never vaped at over 80 watts, but I know how to set up for 260 watts to give me a cool vape with no burning. It can certainly be done, but very few people would vape at that much power for any length of time. We did a poll on ECF a while back on how many watts people vape at. Most people polled between 8-15 and no-one is over 100 watts.

It is nice to have the choice of what to buy though.
 

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Yeah, it sounds comical and unnecessary but actually there are real applications for this.

My all day vape is a quad build 0.12 ohm in a big block 454 on a 26650 50A battery. Multiple coils or large single coils definitely will ask for that extra wattage when it's spread across a larger heating area. Even though it sounds ridiculously low it's actually a very smooth, barely warm vape with plenty of flavor and it's pulling 147 watts. My hex build @ 0.1 ohms pulls 176 watts. As long as the airflow is there to match the wattage and heating area the only thing that changes is how long your drag is. I only need 1-1.5 seconds for a lung full instead of slowly dragging for 5 seconds. Neither coil setup snaps and pops from being too hot. They both sizzle along perfectly and throw flavor like mad. Just imagine you're essentially putting several egos together to shorten your drag time. That's going to ask for far more power without necessarily being hotter and wiping out flavor.

I could totally use the wattage from an SMY 260 to fire two large 1.5 ohm coils instead of having to build crazy multiples or twisted monstrosities to force that battery to give me the vapor I want via super sub ohm resistances. It would definitely knock off the ramp up time on some of my builds that have proven useless on 26650 mechanicals. Besides, @ only $120 it's better to have it and not use it than need it and not have it. Not likely 260 watts but definitely 180+. It all depends on how much area you're trying to heat.

Given there's no doubt there will be tools out there that want it because it's a bigger number so it must be better.
 

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Well,
I look at it this way, do people need a 500 hp sports car to drive on the local roads, do motorcycle owners need a Sports bike that is turbo charged...Prob not but they have them for purchase, this question will raise a lot of feedback both positive and negative in the replies. The bottom line boils down to buy what you feel you want to (to a point), now given that its regulated I can't say its a safety danger to buy a 200+ watt box mod as you can control the wattage to your liking and most won't like it much past 60 watts anyways (its really, really intense..I've tried it once and only once at 80 watts, I'll never do that again).

I think you'll find that most are out for battery life and longevity of the 3 battery stack, have to remember that in series you not only add the voltage but also the amp hours of the batteries as well. I'll say running a 2 battery box mod that can push 100 watts is nice as I can go a whole day without having to change out batteries. I don't run it much past 20 watts and that's on a day I'm feeling the need for a warm vape, usually I stick around 15-18 watts and that's about good for me. But again its a personal choice on that one, there is no real need (not yet anyways) to run up that high.

Now, should they ever look in to ceramic disk atomization then you might need that much wattage to get the system to work. I've only ever heard maybe a handful of reports attempting to get this to run correctly so not sure if any advancements have been made on that side (ever see those misting fountains that they have for home decorative purposes, that is ceramic disk atomization, also known as cool mist atomization).
 
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