Are Mechanical Mods Going the Way of the Dodo Bird?
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Wrong. Kicked 18350 Mechanical and kayfun Nano is very stealthy. Much smaller than most Mini Boxes, less chance of failing than an istick and a Much better Vape than an Ego/Clearo.
Your response should read - For ME...bla bla bla......
Trust me, I can hide my Mini Mech much better than a Vapor Flask. I also DIY a Blend for LOW vapor for those times.
There are times and applications for most equipment available. It depends on user need and preference.
and your response should read for me bla bla bla, my opinion is just as valid as yours.....my preference would never dictate that set-up but that's just for me,is that better,i'd rather vape for a few hours than a few ...well whatever
I have a feeling, granted this is only an opinion, but when some of these new regulated box mods start bricking in 6-12 months, there will be another surge in mech popularity.
Or if the FDA goes bonkers and a $50-$100 electronic mod suddenly costs 4 times that...
Andria
I dont know - most of the users here on ECF seem to be the hobiests of the community and largely don't represent the usage of the vaping populous. I'd venture to say that most users on here dont hold onto mods for more than a year - maybe they still have them, but their daily use mod a year ago probably isnt their daily use device today, simply because of shinyitis
That's all my opinion of course.I feel like a minority on here for holding mods as my daily use devices as long as I have (though I do occasionally get a case of shinyitis)
3 months - eGo with various tanks
6 months - SmokTech SiD 15w
6 months - Hana Clone (also got a 4nine, but hana clone got most of the use)
December to now - Reo (also got a Smpl clone - Smpl is cloud chasing rig, 4nine is in 18450 with kayfun for stealth, still pick up the hana occasionally- i have my higher nic juice in there - mech tubes only get occasional use)
When a regulated squanker comes out that I like the looks of and is under $250, I'll be on that like a fat kid on a cupcake.
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I dont know - most of the users here on ECF seem to be the hobiests of the community and largely don't represent the usage of the vaping populous. I'd venture to say that most users on here dont hold onto mods for more than a year - maybe they still have them, but their daily use mod a year ago probably isnt their daily use device today, simply because of shinyitis
I feel like a minority on here for holding mods as my daily use devices as long as I have (though I do occasionally get a case of shinyitis)
3 months - eGo with various tanks
6 months - SmokTech SiD 15w
6 months - Hana Clone (also got a 4nine, but hana clone got most of the use)
December to now - Reo (also got a Smpl clone - Smpl is cloud chasing rig, 4nine is in 18450 with kayfun for stealth, still pick up the hana occasionally- i have my higher nic juice in there - mech tubes only get occasional use)
My story was ego>vamo, vamo broke, got another vamo, 2nd vamo started to go... got a mech, never looked back. Now that was about 18 months ago, and the newer mods are probably more reliable than a vamo, but I assume there are still a lot of people out there struggling to get by, who can't afford to spend $60 or more every time something gets dropped a little too hard and a wire comes loose, or a 510 strips, or a circuit board fries, or... you get the idea.
That is true.
All my mod's are still in working order - I had to repair the 510 on one of my SiD's, but before I did I panicked and ordered another one ($35) - which I have since sold. Now the repaired SiD is a little wonky as the internals have slid a bit so the button doesnt "connect" every time you push it. Other than that, all the other mods are in great working order. I found some SiDs the other day for like $15 haha $35 was a good deal at the time - most vendors asked 40 online or 60 in the shop.
Also - regulated mods are getting cheaper - you can find an MVP 20w for under $40 which would be perfect to run MOST clearomizers or rebuildables (provided you dont want to go under 1 ohm). With the Watt race going on, I think we will see more higher wattage mods for reasonable prices, which takes some of the advantage away from the prices of mechanicals... Granted, Mechs are a more of a simple construction, so some will always be cheaper, just that margin is thinning. A year ago it seems like you had to go vamo, zmax, or the like to get a cheap regulated device - your other options were DNA20 or Provari.
Ebb and Flow,
That is what it is, market trend fueled by supply and demand. So again as mentioned that the argument is illogical and can be easily placated by either side but the truth of the matter is neither mechanicals or regulated mods are going anywhere. Simply put its supply and demand, there will be demand for both, as the supply dwindles in one side this will cause a sale of the mods for exchange of currency. This will then in turn cause the imbalance of mechanical mods being used then regulated, once that happens then there will be high demand for regulated and again there will be sale of them for currency and it will shift. On and on it goes fueled by demand and new innovations on either side will tip those scales back and forth.
--had to modify this section, negative said statement on my part not needed in a civil discussion--
Anyways, just saying both are here to stay even though you'll se one or the other dwindle at times, I doubt the flame of life will go out on either mechanicals or regulated.
That is what it is, market trend fueled by supply and demand. So again as mentioned that the argument is illogical and can be easily placated by either side but the truth of the matter is neither mechanicals or regulated mods are going anywhere. Simply put its supply and demand, there will be demand for both, as the supply dwindles in one side this will cause a sale of the mods for exchange of currency. This will then in turn cause the imbalance of mechanical mods being used then regulated, once that happens then there will be high demand for regulated and again there will be sale of them for currency and it will shift. On and on it goes fueled by demand and new innovations on either side will tip those scales back and forth.
--had to modify this section, negative said statement on my part not needed in a civil discussion--
Anyways, just saying both are here to stay even though you'll se one or the other dwindle at times, I doubt the flame of life will go out on either mechanicals or regulated.
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I've been in the vape game a good few years now and only 2 days ago have I ordered my first rebuildable. Yes clearos are more common because the market is targeting smokers wishing to quit. Which new customer trying to quit smoking wishes to learn various battery outputs , ohms , various wires wicks and sizes. And that's just the start. They are looking for a quick fix. Like I say 4 - 5 years down the line well before it mainstream in the uk I was vaping and only now am I entering the rebuildable market. For what reason? Cheaper long term running costs. Finding my perfect hit / flavour. Cloud chasing. Will I carry my trusty nautilus aswell. Absolutely.
I just prefer mechs. More durable, more simple and work great for me. I only own 1 variable device now, an SVD, which I use strictly to test battery strength. I never use it to vape. I had a Provari once. Great device but I sold it because I just don't care for the variable features. Just not my trip. Got back almost what I paid for it though, which speaks highly of Provari's quality and reputation. I have about a dozen mechs, some clone and some authentic and I love them all.
I will say this though......within the vaping subculture it seems like the "latest craze" gets all the attention. It happened with the Nemesis, then the Stingray, the Hades, etc, etc. The new thing out seems like the coolest thing everyone just has to have Right now that is the various box mods with chips. Which is cool if that's what you want/like. More power to you.
Right now there are Empire clones (the K100) that are priced so low you can buy them for next to nothing. A great little mod that performs very well. But they aren't "cool" right now so they are dirt cheap. Which I think is awesome. I have a couple of hundred dollars worth of authentic mech mods at home right now and here I sit at work. With my K100
I will say this though......within the vaping subculture it seems like the "latest craze" gets all the attention. It happened with the Nemesis, then the Stingray, the Hades, etc, etc. The new thing out seems like the coolest thing everyone just has to have
Right now that is the various box mods with chips. Which is cool if that's what you want/like. More power to you.Right now there are Empire clones (the K100) that are priced so low you can buy them for next to nothing. A great little mod that performs very well. But they aren't "cool" right now so they are dirt cheap. Which I think is awesome. I have a couple of hundred dollars worth of authentic mech mods at home right now and here I sit at work. With my K100
for me I love mechs due to how I work....I like the fact they are indestructible. I can drop it in water and not hurt it, I can throw it into a brick wall and not hurt it. if I was using anything with electronics I would destroy it in less than a day. I have nothing against regulated mods, but to me i'll stick to something that will outlast me instead of something I have to replace yearly
To each their own.
I seriously doubt the Mech Mod sub forum, or ECF in general, is a good sampling of the average user.
I think the OP was postulating that mech mods are falling out of favor with cheaper higher wattage regulated devices becoming cheaper and more portable (in some cases). I think this is true for the average user. Are mechs going to go extinct (as "going the way of the dodo" insinuates)? I dont think so. As I've said several times, there will be a niche market, and you can probably find a good portion of that market here on ECF (especially in the mech mod sub forum!).
I seriously doubt the Mech Mod sub forum, or ECF in general, is a good sampling of the average user.
I think the OP was postulating that mech mods are falling out of favor with cheaper higher wattage regulated devices becoming cheaper and more portable (in some cases). I think this is true for the average user. Are mechs going to go extinct (as "going the way of the dodo" insinuates)? I dont think so. As I've said several times, there will be a niche market, and you can probably find a good portion of that market here on ECF (especially in the mech mod sub forum!).
Very true. for the first two months I vaped, I swore up and down I would NEVER rebuild a coil, it was just too far out of my limited girly-girl mindset. But I never could get those dang T3S's to work right, consistently. I decided that since the door of possibility and change had opened, with regard to quitting smoking, what else might I learn, if I just opened myself to the possibility? Getting a Kayfun, right after I learned to rebuild those T3S's, was the best thing I've done for my new vaping lifestyle. Still my favorite vape, bar none. But I just got a Magma clone, and I'm liking it too; mostly I've been underwhelmed by the whole dripping phenomenon, but this Magma is pretty sweet for someone who wants good flavor. It's at least as good in flavor as the Kayfun, and who knows, after I play with a few different builds for it, it might even be better.
For newbies, I'd suggest cartos and cartotanks; FAR less troublesome, on the whole, than clearos, but just as easy to use, replaceable parts, etc. I still like mine -- got a Boge XL right now withy some of my DIY Smoky Cappucino in it; the smokiness, with the slim form and slender drip tip I have on it, makes a really good placebo "smoke."
Which is just what new vapers need, something similar enough that it can scratch the same itch.Andria
and your response should read for me bla bla bla, my opinion is just as valid as yours.....my preference would never dictate that set-up but that's just for me,is that better,i'd rather vape for a few hours than a few ...well whatever
Got your attention anyway.
Simple fact is People have preference or, on occasion, special need.
Neme/Kayfun 18350 kicked beside Cloupor Mini. Straight 18350 4Nine w/.5ohm Magma
Neme is 1/2 the size and perfect for my work situation. Would I prefer different. Yes, but conditions do not allow.
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Very true. for the first two months I vaped, I swore up and down I would NEVER rebuild a coil, it was just too far out of my limited girly-girl mindset. But I never could get those dang T3S's to work right, consistently. I decided that since the door of possibility and change had opened, with regard to quitting smoking, what else might I learn, if I just opened myself to the possibility? Getting a Kayfun, right after I learned to rebuild those T3S's, was the best thing I've done for my new vaping lifestyle. Still my favorite vape, bar none. But I just got a Magma clone, and I'm liking it too; mostly I've been underwhelmed by the whole dripping phenomenon, but this Magma is pretty sweet for someone who wants good flavor. It's at least as good in flavor as the Kayfun, and who knows, after I play with a few different builds for it, it might even be better.
For newbies, I'd suggest cartos and cartotanks; FAR less troublesome, on the whole, than clearos, but just as easy to use, replaceable parts, etc. I still like mine -- got a Boge XL right now withy some of my DIY Smoky Cappucino in it; the smokiness, with the slim form and slender drip tip I have on it, makes a really good placebo "smoke."
Andria
I hope you're enjoying the Magma! I was the same, I swore I'd never build a coil (thought I wouldn't be able to) but a couple of weeks ago I took the plunge. Glad I did, even though the Magma has its issues it has some amazing flavor and is super easy to build on.
As for mechs, I doubt they will ever completely disappear, but they are falling to the side in favor of high wattage devices when considering the vape community as a whole (not just the sub-sampling we have here at ECF). And that's fine, there are plenty of niche vape groups, like e-pipes, squonkers, cartos and even the much-maligned cigalikes (which aren't so bad sometimes!).
For me, and I just got into mechs, I know I value the fact that my mechs will still be working when my regulated mods turn into bricks and paperweights.
Yes, the flavor is very good in the Magma; I got it because of a super-gunky juice that needs a new wick and dry-burn about twice a day, and it's SOOOOOOOOOO much easier with the Magma than it was with the kayfun, and the most juice that might be wasted is a few drops, rather than several ml - this juice is too good to waste!
It does have some minor issues with leaking, it's true, but I'm working on trying to understand it, why it does it and what I might do about it; I'm using an extra kayfun o-ring on it, as I read somewhere, but I'm not sure if that helps, or if I'm using it the right place, or what.
That security of know something will be workable or can be easily repaired if necessary is a LARGE part of mechs' allure for me. The Galileo I ordered should be here tomorrow, yay!
Andria
Yes, the flavor is very good in the Magma; I got it because of a super-gunky juice that needs a new wick and dry-burn about twice a day, and it's SOOOOOOOOOO much easier with the Magma than it was with the kayfun, and the most juice that might be wasted is a few drops, rather than several ml - this juice is too good to waste!
It does have some minor issues with leaking, it's true, but I'm working on trying to understand it, why it does it and what I might do about it; I'm using an extra kayfun o-ring on it, as I read somewhere, but I'm not sure if that helps, or if I'm using it the right place, or what.
That security of know something will be workable or can be easily repaired if necessary is a LARGE part of mechs' allure for me. The Galileo I ordered should be here tomorrow, yay!
Andria
I have read that the magma leaks mostly due to condensation into the airflow "pipes" - that or over dripping and juice flowing down it
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