Are there any starter kits/e-cigs that come with Lifepo4 batteries?

[Leslie La'Fiez]

Well you see, I am quite scared of Li-ions and most other lithium batteries since they explode easy. So I thought of getting a vaper that came with a safe old lifepo4 battery but the problem is I can't find no brands that sell them (cheap). Any bits of wisdom or sh/it would be appreciated. Thanx.

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[hmar]

Hopefully one of the battery gurus can help you here, it looks like you can get a Lifepo4 18650 battery, but I don't recognize any of these brands
Google

 

[r77r7r]

NOT SAFE FOR vaping. plus,you.d need a special charger.

 

[Leslie La'Fiez]

NOT SAFE FOR vaping. plus,you.d need a special charger.

Why is it not safe?

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[r77r7r]

That's a flashlight battery - not a vape battery. I have 3 flashlights that could use that as a drop in replacement instead of running with 3 AAA cells in a battery cage. And the batteries might be cheap - but you have to tack on the added cost of a charger. (DO NOT put them in a regular Li-On charger.) So for vaping? - no.

 

[r77r7r]

LiFePO4 batteries are only rated for 3.2 volts nominal operating, and require a special charger also. They are also usually a low C rating, low discharge rating, not what we look for in a "vaping battery" These would only be worse trying to use them with a sub-ohm coil.

 

[Leslie La'Fiez]

LiFePO4 batteries are only rated for 3.2 volts nominal operating, and require a special charger also. They are also usually a low C rating, low discharge rating, not what we look for in a "vaping battery" These would only be worse trying to use them with a sub-ohm coil.

So the lifepo4 battery would explode when vaping? If so, then are there any branded starter kits that come with AAA battery stacks? I haven't found any NiMH or AAA batteries featured in any brands. I don't want to make/buy a mod like the PUCK, I just want to buy a branded e-cig that comes with those explosion-safe chemistry batts.

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[r77r7r]

So the lifepo4 battery would explode when vaping? If so, then are there any branded starter kits that come with AAA battery stacks? I haven't found any NiMH or AAA batteries featured in any brands. I don't want to make/buy a mod like the PUCK, I just want to buy a branded e-cig that comes with those explosion-safe chemistry batts.

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The number of safe vaping incidents far outweigh the bad reports you hear. In most cases, the users did real dumb stuff.
There are patches and gum out there to use also.

 

[Leslie La'Fiez]

The number of safe vaping incidents far outweigh the bad reports you hear. In most cases, the users did real dumb stuff.
There are patches and gum out there to use also.

I know but I still want to play it safe as possible. So are there any branded vaporizer with AAA batteries?

 

[r77r7r]

Not that I've ever heard of.

 

[Leslie La'Fiez]

Not that I've ever heard of.

That sucks. So how do you guys go about replacing it with AAA batteries? (I hardly no anything about circuitry)

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[gandymarsh]

I was hoping Baditude would step in here. He's one of our main battery experts.

We prefer LiMn (Lithium Manganese) AKA IMR batteries here because they are safer than the older style Lithium Ion batteries.

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[Baditude]

ANY BATTERY has the potential to vent hot gas when they are abused or used improperly. Some can actually go up in flames or explode, depending upon their chemistry.

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All vaping explosions are caused by a chain of design errors, user actions, and possibly a battery fault.

- Mechanical mods, by their minimalist design, are more dangerous than other e-cigs.
- Sealed metal tubes (in a mechanical mod) will probably explode if a battery vents violently.
- Small vents at the bottom of the tube are useless, only very large gas vents near the top have a good chance of preventing an explosion.
- Building coils lower than 0.2 ohm will raise the amp draw exponentially and this increases risk - the power graph shows a significant change at 0.2 ohms and starts to climb vertically as resistance is reduced further.
- Using cheap batteries with ultra low res coils is a certain route to high risk - you need 30 amp batteries of guaranteed high quality.

Educating yourself, choosing the right batteries for your application, choosing a battery holder designed to be safe, and practicing safe battery habits greatly reduces the chance for a bad vaping accident.


LiPo batteries, like ICR (Li-Ion), are not a safe chemistry battery. They can burst into flames and possibly explode when they go into thermal runaway. LiPo's are being used in a number of regulated mods, eGo batteries, and cigalikes that use an internal non-removeable battery, but they depend upon a PCB (protection chip) in their processor to be safe to use for vaping.

AAA over-the-counter batteries are I believe alkaline chemistry batteries. Not a safe chemistry and don't have the current (amps) necessary for e-cigarettes. So forget about using them to power an e-cigarette.

The safest batteries for vaping are IMR (Li-Mn) or IMR/hybrid batteries. They are high drain (current/amps) and safe chemistry. They may still vent hot gas when they fail, but are not volatile or explosive unless the device they are used in does not have adequate ventilation holes.

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[Alien Traveler]

I know but I still want to play it safe as possible. So are there any branded vaporizer with AAA batteries?

No. These batteries are not suited for vaping (low currents).
Are you a smoker? Any "danger" from batteries is so much less than danger of smoking.
If you are not a smoker, may be you do not need to vape at all.