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mauricem00

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I've never done any higher wattage vaping, but I get the idea that TC is PRIMARILY (not exclusively) a benefit for the modwompers and cloudchasers. (Geez, so many "technical" terms these days)

Us tootlers are less likely to drive and tax our set ups so much to really need the temp restrictions, especially after one takes the time to learn technique.

Plus, many tootlers are older and (like me) stubborn and set in their ways. I equate it to ABS on bikes. I know the reports show that ABS can be a life saver, especially with more spirited riders, but I prefer the old fashioned manual braking system that I'm accustomed to and I don't ride in a fashion that would allow maximum benefit from ABS technology, the rare "Oh, crap" moment aside.

Does that make any sense or am I rambling? (or both?:hubba:)


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i'm with you technology is no replacement for experience and skill.and technology has an annoying habit of failing at the worst time. but skill and experience are always there one acquired.:thumbs:
 

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You are forgetting one of the big perks of TC vaping..... No dry hits :p
I can run my kayfun lite with all steel tank with no fear of a nasty dry hit... Just vape it empty.
Also, TC gives you a finer level of control then even VW does. I'm a recent convert to TC....... Don't see myself going back :p

I suppose that is a very good thing, if you like 'tank cracking" juice... also I was considering a designer-styled kayfun, using a combo of stainless and gold parts. :D Or black and stainless. The possibilities are nearly endless! :D

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I haven't had the "over-wicked" kind in a long time, but still sometimes get the "dry coil" type, if the wick is just gunked up and worn out. I seem to get those more with the japanese cotton pads, than I ever have with regular organic-cotton-ball wicks.

I've tasted a dry hit from a carto -- NO THANK YOU EVER AGAIN! Ditto that for a dry hit from rayon -- there are no words for that foulness.

I guess I just finally figured out the right amount of cotton, so now it works, until the wick needs changing. At some point I might try or own a TC mod, if the prices keep dropping, just because I'm a curious animal, not because I think I really "need" it. But I remain very leery of sub-ohm coils.

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I agree. I don't sub-ohm because I don't like/want to lung inhale, but I'm not afraid of them. As long as the coil is wet, we're fine.

I believe that TC may become standard some day, just like VV and VW, and the prices will come down. In the meantime, I don't feel like paying premium prices for the TC batteries and dealing with nickel/titanium/ss coils...

Again, it's just me--but I've been vaping for a long time and I know what I like and how to vape safely. TC is a great invention and a life saver for many vapers.
 
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I agree. I don't sub-ohm because I don't like/want to lung inhale, but I'm not afraid of them. As long as the coil is wet, we're fine.

I believe that TC may become standard some day, just like VV and VW, and the prices will come down. In the meantime, I don't feel like paying premium prices for the TC batteries and dealing with nickel/titanium/ss coils...

Again, it's just me--but I've been vaping for a long time and I know what I like and how to vape safely. TC is a great invention and a life saver for many vapers.
I don't see any need for TC for me but cloud chasing hubby has made the switch to it and swears by it...Im reading all the posts about it here but really I don't see a need to teach this old dog a new trick...I don't get dry hits, I don't push my equipment and I already speand a fortune on juice supplies and tanks so....I guess its still "sorry hubby, no thank you" lol
 

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Very true, I hear that all the time....but it's a dry heat, can't be as bad as here :p
I've lived all over (military bases), west coast, east coast, mid west. Humidity sucks, yes, but with a good amount of humidity, wind can be refreshing....here, it's like a hot blow dryer on your face :/
Most humid places don't break tripple digits, desert often does but with low humidity. I've only been one place that has the worst of both......okinawa. We had days that would break 100, and with 90-100% humidity..... Um yeah, you swim through the air.

I'm fine with anything I don't have to shovel.
 

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You are forgetting one of the big perks of TC vaping..... No dry hits :p
I can run my kayfun lite with all steel tank with no fear of a nasty dry hit... Just vape it empty.
Also, TC gives you a finer level of control then even VW does. I'm a recent convert to TC....... Don't see myself going back :p

And @Katya .... I'm not forgetting anything :p ....and while it is good for no dry hits, knowledgeable vapers can prevent (and have been preventing) that in any circumstance, as Katya and I pointed out. Also, I doubt that Dr. F would say that 'dry hits' are the only problem with high temp vaping since - as he has said about chemicals being changed and released in the higher temps on eliquids - and that even wet hits in high heat can produce particulates in vapor from gunked coils, and perhaps the coils themselves.
 

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Temperature control is there to prevent dry hits due to insufficient wicking. That can, theoretically, occur at any wattage. I don't vape my tanks empty and I always try to make sure that my wicking and airflow are working fine, so if you do that, TC is just an extra safety measure.

I haven't had a dry hit in years. With those new, improved tanks and my own (correctly built and wicked) RBAs, dry hits are the thing of the past. But I'm a somewhat experienced vaper and I know how to avoid dry wicks (hits).

BTW, some of the nastiest dry hits I've ever experienced occurred at very low wattages--when I used some cartos, eGo-C atomizers and Aspire ET-S BDC... Poor wicking + inadequate airflow = dry hits.

Just my :2c:
Some of the TC mods starting wattage is 30 watts if in TC mode.
 

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I doubt that Dr. F would say that 'dry hits' are the only problem with high temp vaping since - as he has said about chemicals being changed and released in the higher temps on eliquids - and that even wet hits in high heat can produce particulates in vapor from gunked coils, and perhaps the coils themselves.

that is where i see the ultimate use and benefit of tc-controlled mods. once we get a safety base line (as far as temps are concerned) for e-liquids and wicking materials then a tc mod can make sure we don't cross that line ;)
 

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And @Katya .... I'm not forgetting anything :p ....and while it is good for no dry hits, knowledgeable vapers can prevent (and have been preventing) that in any circumstance, as Katya and I pointed out. Also, I doubt that Dr. F would say that 'dry hits' are the only problem with high temp vaping since - as he has said about chemicals being changed and released in the higher temps on eliquids - and that even wet hits in high heat can produce particulates in vapor from gunked coils, and perhaps the coils themselves.

:D

Right. I'm also sort of waiting for the results of Dr. F's wire studies. That's another unknown with TC--I'd like to know if there is a difference between kanthal, nichrome, nickel, titanium and stainless wrt to safety for inhalation.

Dr. F caused quite a stir recently with his comments about dry burning and the presence of metals in vapor--he walked some of it back since, but it's an area worthy of exploring, nevertheless. ;)
 

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I'm fine with anything I don't have to shovel.

:facepalm:

Hmmm... I wanted to get you a horse for your birthday. :D

Happy Belated, DP!

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This afternoon a strange thing happened. I was tootling along on my merry way and I happened upon a vapor shop. Upon entering, a lovely young lady with a mechanical power-supply and a dripper spotted me. She looked at my provari with kayfun setup and offered for me to try the other . This seemed like an amicable exchange so I agreed. I would compare the experience to drinking from a fire hose...She on the other hand marveled at the quality and flavor of a 2ohm contact coil at 8.5W.

Needless to say I converted this hooligan toot sweet.

Now if you will excuse me I have some leisurely vaping to attend to.

Sincerely,
Tootle Vapor Man
 

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that is where i see the ultimate use and benefit of tc-controlled mods. once we get a safety base line (as far as temps are concerned) for e-liquids and wicking materials then a tc mod can make sure we don't cross that line ;)

That's kinda my point - as tootle puffers, we don't really cross that line. But the 'make sure we don't' has some OCD type certainty :lol:
 

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Some of the TC mods starting wattage is 30 watts if in TC mode.
Only the Joyetech VT 60 as far as I know and that is only a fraction of a second before it reaches temp. With TC you are vaping to a preset temperature. You can meet and exceed those temps even with a tootle puffer rig. TC is not just for "cloud chasers". I use it for consistent flavor and vape production. I think it uses juice more efficiently also. No possibility of dry hits is a bonus.
 
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