Are YOU a Tootle Puffer??

[Papillon61]

Today we finished my second mod and I am in awe of it. I still can't decide which tank looks good so today's tootle puffing device is a DIY box mod in stabilised olive.

That is so lovely Krisma. I love people who can make things with their hands, out of nothing (or very little). I'm pretty good in the kitchen and do a bit of art when in the right mood (my avatar is one of my watercolours) and I love renovating wood - love wood period. Bur sadly my technical know-how does not go beyond winding and placing a coil. So something like this - wow - i'm just in awe!

 

[Krisma]

That is so lovely Krisma. I love people who can make things with their hands, out of nothing (or very little). I'm pretty good in the kitchen and do a bit of art when in the right mood (my avatar is one of my watercolours) and I love renovating wood - love wood period. Bur sadly my technical know-how does not go beyond winding and placing a coil. So something like this - wow - i'm just in awe!

Thank you. I tinker a lot with various crafts have found my place in this process with the initial design, the collating of the pieces and the finishing. His skill is in the working of the wood and as a former graphic and fabric artist he's quite meticulous and at home with this.

I should also say thanks to all the folks who share their process and instructions on how to make these mods safely. This was balanced quite specifically to compensate for the difficulty I have in holding and firing mods. (Weak hands a result of teenage sporting injuries)

 

[Papillon61]

Dang. So sorry, Lannie. When you were asking for mod advice, I typed up this really long post explaining that it might be a good time to upgrade, but then I chickened out and deleted it all, since I'm kinda new here and it didn't seem to be what you guys were used to. If I had posted it, I probably coulda talked you into your very own iStick.

On my Spinners and Evods, what worked out best for me was 1.8Ω coils at ±3.8V.

I don't want to be controversial or anything but this post struck me, particularly the words I've bolded. It sort of summarizes what I have noticed happening in most forums I've been on over the years. Some people have this fixation about what they do and how they do it and find it so difficult to accept another point of view or way of doing things. I suppose they figure since what they have been doing has always been successful then their way is the best way and there can't possibly be any other way to do it... all other ways are rubbish. Well, no, sorry, I can't agree with that. Another approach, even if tentative and exploratory, is always good. It's how progress and innovation come about. It doesn't have to mean your way is wrong, it doesn't have to be a threat to you - it's just different and probably equally successful. It's not always a question of re-inventing the wheel (meaning unnecessary) - it could be a question of lubricating the wheel or making the wheel less prone to punctures or simply making the wheel more aesthetically pleasing. If we stopped at the first thing that worked and never tried to be innovative - at the risk of being booed down to start with - we might still all be living in caves, cooking our meat over wood fires started with flint and painting ochre figures on walls.

 

[Krisma]

I don't want to be controversial or anything but this post struck me, particularly the words I've bolded. It sort of summarizes what I have noticed happening in most forums I've been on over the years. Some people have this fixation about what they do and how they do it and find it so difficult to accept another point of view or way of doing things. I suppose they figure since what they have been doing has always been successful then their way is the best way and there can't possibly be any other way to do it... all other ways are rubbish. Well, no, sorry, I can't agree with that. Another approach, even if tentative and exploratory, is always good. It's how progress and innovation come about. It doesn't have to mean your way is wrong, it doesn't have to be a threat to you - it's just different and probably equally successful. It's not always a question of re-inventing the wheel (meaning unnecessary) - it could be a question of lubricating the wheel or making the wheel less prone to punctures or simply making the wheel more aesthetically pleasing. If we stopped at the first thing that worked and never tried to be innovative - at the risk of being booed down to start with - we might still all be living in caves, cooking our meat over wood fires started with flint and painting ochre figures on walls.

Exactly. I felt that this thread was started to combat that sort of thinking and would hate to think we are slipping into that same mindset. To me Tootle puffers encompass all styles and what works for you is exactly that. It works for you.

 

[cindycated]

Sorry, I didn't mean to insinuate that you all were that type of crowd. In hindsight, I'm sure if I had posted it, Lannie would've been receptive, and it might've even helped others as well. I should have - I feel really bad now that I didn't. It's just that I'm kinda new on this thread and I didn't wanna make too many waves. (..yet! ) I don't know you guys that well yet, and you don't know me that well yet. As I was typing, other replies were coming in and mine didn't feel so relevant anymore, so I deleted it. I didn't diss anybody else's style in my deleted post, FWIW. Just a bunch of technical stuff and past experience mostly.

 

[Papillon61]

Sorry, I didn't mean to insinuate that you all were that type of crowd. In hindsight, I'm sure if I had posted it, Lannie would've been receptive, and it might've even helped others as well. I should have - I feel really bad now that I didn't. It's just that I'm kinda new on this thread and I didn't wanna make too many waves. (..yet! ) I don't know you guys that well yet, and you don't know me that well yet. As I was typing, other replies were coming in and mine didn't feel so relevant anymore, so I deleted it. I didn't diss anybody else's style in my deleted post, FWIW. Just a bunch of technical stuff and past experience mostly.

I wasn't referring specifically to your post - just took it as an example to refer to a trend that I've watched in all types of forums - be they vaping, weight-loss, art, handicrafts - whatever. It doesn't refer to this forum or even this thread but more to a mindset which I find a little disturbing. Perhaps I'm a little too much of a liberal, live and let live type of person... and being that sort of person I do accept the fact that we are all different and perceive life differently. But also being an out-spoken liberal minded person I too had to speak my mind.

 

[chopdoc]

I don't want to be controversial or anything but this post struck me, particularly the words I've bolded. It sort of summarizes what I have noticed happening in most forums I've been on over the years. Some people have this fixation about what they do and how they do it and find it so difficult to accept another point of view or way of doing things. I suppose they figure since what they have been doing has always been successful then their way is the best way and there can't possibly be any other way to do it... all other ways are rubbish. Well, no, sorry, I can't agree with that. Another approach, even if tentative and exploratory, is always good. It's how progress and innovation come about. It doesn't have to mean your way is wrong, it doesn't have to be a threat to you - it's just different and probably equally successful. It's not always a question of re-inventing the wheel (meaning unnecessary) - it could be a question of lubricating the wheel or making the wheel less prone to punctures or simply making the wheel more aesthetically pleasing. If we stopped at the first thing that worked and never tried to be innovative - at the risk of being booed down to start with - we might still all be living in caves, cooking our meat over wood fires started with flint and painting ochre figures on walls.

Your right Papillon and at times people forget that just because someone loves a certain setup doesnt mean everyone has to love that same set up. Kinda like having a steak. Just because I love them rare doesnt mean you do too. Yet I really dont see that kind of attitude too much here. Occasionally but not often and usually its so friendly and laid back that its not an issue. Even the tootle puffers vs cloud chaser animosity has died a lot on ECF.

 

[Papillon61]

Your right Papillon and at times people forget that just because someone loves a certain setup doesnt mean everyone has to love that same set up. Kinda like having a steak. Just because I love them rare doesnt mean you do too. Yet I really dont see that kind of attitude too much here. Occasionally but not often and usually its so friendly and laid back that its not an issue. Even the tootle puffers vs cloud chaser animosity has died a lot on ECF.

No it doesn't happen often or even at all on this thread but it does happen in other areas of this forum, as in all forums. I find the fact that someone should feel afraid to "ruffle the waters" so to speak, afraid to go against the current, a little disturbing. Well, "disturbing" is perhaps too strong a term - I just feel it shouldn't be so. Everyone should feel comfortable expressing an opinion, or suggesting something different. If you agree, say so, If you don't agree, say so too but don't feel threatened by it - don't shout it down.

Again I am not referring to this thread or any thread in particular - just a general mindset.

 

[Lannie]

And especially for someone like me, who doesn't know diddly-SQUAT yet, ALL opinions (and the reasons for them, of course) are welcomed! I was teetering on the iStick 30 fence, but the shape of it still weirds me out a little, that's all. I can see that I'm ready for that kind of performance now, though. I will use my little batteries until they're no longer dependable, then upgrade. In that time, maybe I'll also become more comfortable with the two way radio shape! LOL! And then, hey, maybe I'll quit calling them "two way radios, eh?"

Someone suggested rewicking these EVOD coils, but both Rich and I have malfunctioning arthritic hands to some degree, and when he took the chimney off the first one to see how it worked, he could NOT get it back on, not for love nor money. So anything that involves removing and replacing the chimney is probably out for us. Later on, when I get a different setup that's easier to take apart and do that, then hell yeah! I'm up for learning how to rebuild them. I've already watched videos on rebuilding these little EVOD types, and it can be done, but I don't think by me. The first one that fries, though, maybe I'll try it. I know more now than I did when we took apart that first one, and that will help, I'm sure.

Thanks for ALL the advice, and ALL the opinions, and especially ALL the different points of view. They all help me learn and make better decisions in the future.

~Lannie

 

[TrollDragon]

Sorry Tootle Puffers...

Today is known as Modwompin' Genny Tuesday...
It's a day to celebrate flavor, a day to be one with the stainless steel mesh and Ekowool.

The loadout on this fine day is an Origen & Nexgen...

 

[VNeil]

And especially for someone like me, who doesn't know diddly-SQUAT yet, ALL opinions (and the reasons for them, of course) are welcomed! I was teetering on the iStick 30 fence, but the shape of it still weirds me out a little, that's all. I can see that I'm ready for that kind of performance now, though. I will use my little batteries until they're no longer dependable, then upgrade. In that time, maybe I'll also become more comfortable with the two way radio shape! LOL! And then, hey, maybe I'll quit calling them "two way radios, eh?"

Someone suggested rewicking these EVOD coils, but both Rich and I have malfunctioning arthritic hands to some degree, and when he took the chimney off the first one to see how it worked, he could NOT get it back on, not for love nor money. So anything that involves removing and replacing the chimney is probably out for us. Later on, when I get a different setup that's easier to take apart and do that, then hell yeah! I'm up for learning how to rebuild them. I've already watched videos on rebuilding these little EVOD types, and it can be done, but I don't think by me. The first one that fries, though, maybe I'll try it. I know more now than I did when we took apart that first one, and that will help, I'm sure.

Thanks for ALL the advice, and ALL the opinions, and especially ALL the different points of view. They all help me learn and make better decisions in the future.

~Lannie

The "box modes" with fully rounded edges feel nice in my hands. I like the Subox (KBox mini) and the Istick 50. Both have fully rounded (half circle) edges. I have not tried something like the iStick 30, so I don't know if the button side is rounded enough for my tastes. The iStick 50 might be too thrilling for your tastes but sometimes I like living on the edge

 

[Lannie]

Now I have Aerosmith's "Livin' on the Edge" stuck in my brain.

I don't see the point in me having a 50 watt mod, though, if I'm never going to sub-ohm and chase clouds. Is there another reason besides that to have one? Battery lasts longer, or something like that? If I was to get an iStick 30 at some point, why would the 50W be better? Or would one of those Coolfires be better for me as a tootle puffer? I haven't really looked into the Coolfire yet, although it's been recommended to me by several people now.

They all seem to be about the same price range, so I guess it doesn't really matter WHICH one I eventually get, but I don't see myself hanging out with the 20-somethings chucking clouds at any point, so I probably don't need too much. I think tanks will be the place I really want to start tweaking and experimenting, and that's a whole 'nother universe, which I haven't begun to explore yet! LOL! I do believe I'm a Flavor Chaser. I'm even beginning to dislike my 12mg juice in favor of the 8mg, because the flavor is purer with less nicotine. However, since I'm still apparently firmly addicted to nic, I find myself practically chain vaping the lower nic juices. Or maybe it's just because they TASTE better! LOL! I haven't quite figured that out yet.

~Lannie

 

[AndriaD]

I wasn't referring specifically to your post - just took it as an example to refer to a trend that I've watched in all types of forums - be they vaping, weight-loss, art, handicrafts - whatever. It doesn't refer to this forum or even this thread but more to a mindset which I find a little disturbing. Perhaps I'm a little too much of a liberal, live and let live type of person... and being that sort of person I do accept the fact that we are all different and perceive life differently. But also being an out-spoken liberal minded person I too had to speak my mind.

I think what would probably help is if people kept in mind that whatever works for them may be a good recommendation, but isn't necessarily the only way of going about it -- i.e., I use coconut water to help me with my dehydration/electrolyte issues... Some people don't get those issues at all, and other people may find other ways of addressing it -- but whatever works, right? The only UNhelpful posts I've seen about that problem are those which state categorically that the problem is a "myth," that it doesn't really exist at all -- well obviously it does, since I and a lot of others have our issues with it.

Andria

 

[Uncle]

I don't want to be controversial or anything but this post struck me, particularly the words I've bolded. It sort of summarizes what I have noticed happening in most forums I've been on over the years. Some people have this fixation about what they do and how they do it and find it so difficult to accept another point of view or way of doing things. I suppose they figure since what they have been doing has always been successful then their way is the best way and there can't possibly be any other way to do it... all other ways are rubbish. Well, no, sorry, I can't agree with that. Another approach, even if tentative and exploratory, is always good. It's how progress and innovation come about. It doesn't have to mean your way is wrong, it doesn't have to be a threat to you - it's just different and probably equally successful. It's not always a question of re-inventing the wheel (meaning unnecessary) - it could be a question of lubricating the wheel or making the wheel less prone to punctures or simply making the wheel more aesthetically pleasing. If we stopped at the first thing that worked and never tried to be innovative - at the risk of being booed down to start with - we might still all be living in caves, cooking our meat over wood fires started with flint and painting ochre figures on walls.

I wasn't referring specifically to your post - just took it as an example to refer to a trend that I've watched in all types of forums - be they vaping, weight-loss, art, handicrafts - whatever. It doesn't refer to this forum or even this thread but more to a mindset which I find a little disturbing. Perhaps I'm a little too much of a liberal, live and let live type of person... and being that sort of person I do accept the fact that we are all different and perceive life differently. But also being an out-spoken liberal minded person I too had to speak my mind.

No it doesn't happen often or even at all on this thread but it does happen in other areas of this forum, as in all forums. I find the fact that someone should feel afraid to "ruffle the waters" so to speak, afraid to go against the current, a little disturbing. Well, "disturbing" is perhaps too strong a term - I just feel it shouldn't be so. Everyone should feel comfortable expressing an opinion, or suggesting something different. If you agree, say so, If you don't agree, say so too but don't feel threatened by it - don't shout it down.

Again I am not referring to this thread or any thread in particular - just a general mindset.

KUDOS - VERY WELL SAID ! ! ! AND - Other then "Quoting" these post - I really wish there was a way to bring more attention to them . . .

Sorry, I didn't mean to insinuate that you all were that type of crowd. In hindsight, I'm sure if I had posted it, Lannie would've been receptive, and it might've even helped others as well. I should have - I feel really bad now that I didn't. It's just that I'm kinda new on this thread and I didn't wanna make too many waves. (..yet! ) I don't know you guys that well yet, and you don't know me that well yet. As I was typing, other replies were coming in and mine didn't feel so relevant anymore, so I deleted it. I didn't diss anybody else's style in my deleted post, FWIW. Just a bunch of technical stuff and past experience mostly.

Really, No One knows Ya' yet . . .

Okay "YOU" (who no one knows) - IMO - YES, Ya' should have, especially given how long Ya' been around and the knowledge base that "You" have acquired "Young Lady" . . . More importantly, given "Your" ability to put things so succinctly and straightforward, there is so much that others - even the more experienced vapor - can appreciate and learn from too . . . Just Sayin' . . .

BTW: To "My" fellow "Tootle-Puffers" . . . May I have the privilege to introduce to "You" ALL one of "My" ECF Friends who has provided some really great information/helpful hints, comradery, and most importantly - some really great laughs . . .
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"Cindycated"

 

[VNeil]

Now I have Aerosmith's "Livin' on the Edge" stuck in my brain.

I don't see the point in me having a 50 watt mod, though, if I'm never going to sub-ohm and chase clouds. Is there another reason besides that to have one? Battery lasts longer, or something like that? If I was to get an iStick 30 at some point, why would the 50W be better? Or would one of those Coolfires be better for me as a tootle puffer? I haven't really looked into the Coolfire yet, although it's been recommended to me by several people now.

They all seem to be about the same price range, so I guess it doesn't really matter WHICH one I eventually get, but I don't see myself hanging out with the 20-somethings chucking clouds at any point, so I probably don't need too much. I think tanks will be the place I really want to start tweaking and experimenting, and that's a whole 'nother universe, which I haven't begun to explore yet! LOL! I do believe I'm a Flavor Chaser. I'm even beginning to dislike my 12mg juice in favor of the 8mg, because the flavor is purer with less nicotine. However, since I'm still apparently firmly addicted to nic, I find myself practically chain vaping the lower nic juices. Or maybe it's just because they TASTE better! LOL! I haven't quite figured that out yet.

~Lannie

I'm a flavor guy too. I went to a 50W mod because I was running my 14W Provaris as close to the limit as I could (which is not easy on a VV mod). I wanted to see if I could improve the flavor. I run my two 50W mods at about 25W when I am after flavor. I found, for example, that in my Subtank Minis the flavor of a good jucie just explodes at 25W. Any higher and it feels "strained" to me, and I don't think the STM is really designed to go above 25W anyway without making a science out of maximizing juice flow.

And you are correct, something like an iStick 50 has more or less the equivilent of 2x18650 so if you run low power you should get a long run time off of them.

I also found I enjoy 100% VG (unflavored of just a hint) at about 40W in a Troll dripper... it is not a flavorful vape, except that VG is kind of sweet, especially at that power level. I enjoy the dense, sweet feeling of a nice VG cloud. I guess I blow some clouds doing that, and I wouldn't do it out in public for sure, but the cloud blowing is more collateral damage to the taste and sensation I get.

Just to say I was like you, not sure if something along the lines of 30-50W would improve things, and it did. I would never go back. So it is worth a try to see if you like it. And 50W mods are pretty cheap now. And it never hurts to run something below the rated max power, and in fact is usually recommended. When you run a 50W mod at 50W you are pushing its design envelope and this stuff is built to a price point. So there is a LOT of merit to buying a 50W mod but not intending to run it at more than half power. The same way your car might red line at 6.5K but that does not mean you should drive the highway in second gear all the time

 

[AndriaD]

Now I have Aerosmith's "Livin' on the Edge" stuck in my brain.

I don't see the point in me having a 50 watt mod, though, if I'm never going to sub-ohm and chase clouds. Is there another reason besides that to have one? Battery lasts longer, or something like that? If I was to get an iStick 30 at some point, why would the 50W be better? Or would one of those Coolfires be better for me as a tootle puffer? I haven't really looked into the Coolfire yet, although it's been recommended to me by several people now.

They all seem to be about the same price range, so I guess it doesn't really matter WHICH one I eventually get, but I don't see myself hanging out with the 20-somethings chucking clouds at any point, so I probably don't need too much. I think tanks will be the place I really want to start tweaking and experimenting, and that's a whole 'nother universe, which I haven't begun to explore yet! LOL! I do believe I'm a Flavor Chaser. I'm even beginning to dislike my 12mg juice in favor of the 8mg, because the flavor is purer with less nicotine. However, since I'm still apparently firmly addicted to nic, I find myself practically chain vaping the lower nic juices. Or maybe it's just because they TASTE better! LOL! I haven't quite figured that out yet.

~Lannie

I found the "big honkin mods" and box mods fairly ridiculous when I first started -- I had to go thru cigalikes and pen-styles before i got my first "big honkin mod" (it's really not that big! it just seems that way to those who haven't seen or tried them yet!), and I'd been vaping for over a year before I got a box mod -- an iStick30, which I decided I liked so well, I promptly bought a 2nd one! Then I got a Coolfire4; they're terrific, really. Both the iStick30 (2200mAh) and the Coolfire4 (2000mAh) can easily last me 2+ days -- after using one of them all day long, it's not even half discharged.

The Coolfire4 is heavier and just slightly larger than the iStick30, but it's an Innokin, VERY good quality, and considering that they're currently running pretty close to the same price, I'd definitely recommend the Coolfire4. Although it is just slightly larger than the iStick, the shape of it is very comfy in your hand, the rounded back that your fingers curve around -- as someone described it yesterday, all the comfort of a tube mod, but with a fire button that's more accessible, right there on the edge. Excellent mod, in every way.

It's true that tootlers don't really need such high wattage, but maybe it's an investment for the future; even if you never need to go very high yourself, if you decide one day you want to sell it, the higher wattage gives it more resale value. And who knows, tastes can change!

Andria

 

[VNeil]

I found the "big honkin mods" and box mods fairly ridiculous when I first started -- I had to go thru cigalikes and pen-styles before i got my first "big honkin mod" (it's really not that big! it just seems that way to those who haven't seen or tried them yet!), and I'd been vaping for over a year before I got a box mod -- an iStick30, which I decided I liked so well, I promptly bought a 2nd one! Then I got a Coolfire4; they're terrific, really. Both the iStick30 (2200mAh) and the Coolfire4 (2000mAh) can easily last me 2+ days -- after using one of them all day long, it's not even half discharged.
Andria

Please don't remind me that I became that 30-something hipster I saw the first time I went into a vape shop

Oh my how we change and evolve

 

[Electrodave]

Yes, I am, indeed, a tootle puffer.

 

[Boden]

Huh... I was going to tell y'all about the song I came up with this morning (Vapin in the bathtub; set to motley crews " smokin in the boys room") but y'all might psycho-evaluate me... So I'm not tellin

 

[Boden]