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Has any found a supplier or company that has tobacco e-juice like or very similar to MFS Turbosmog, Tall Paul, or Red Luck?
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I suppose they figure since what they have been doing has always been successful then their way is the best way and there can't possibly be any other way to do it...
Not really, it's more just the point that after finding what works for them .... why bother trying to find a different way that will work for them. It really isn't a matter of 'everyone else' is wrong, it's just that they see no need .
If I can satisfy my needs @ 7 watts using 3ml/day of liquid, why would I want to try 200 watts using 50ml/day, even if I can make the flavor & throat hit exactly the same?
OR ... if a $3 CE4 did everything they wanted, why would they want to buy a $50 sub tank?
"Because I want one" is the only reason that Is logical, because they will end up making that sub tank vape just like the CE4 did.
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A lot of peer pressure goes on in the vaping world......
Peer pressure never meant much to a true individual like myself. I follow my own nose.
Just realized I was letting peer pressure influence me in my DIY. Have several flavorings I have not tried yet but already have enough good mixes figured out and being vaped on to keep me for a while. So No new flavors for a bit.
Started running out of bottles and since I have about 30 30 ml bottles for juices I suddenly realized I had far more flavors than I could vape on already.
I do need to get some more cheap plastic bottles for give away juice to friends.
Lannie, the main reason I switched over to mechs and RBAs was because I got soooo sick of rebuilding those teeny tiny Kanger heads. Not difficult, but tedious as hell, and not even in a therapeutic way (at least not for me - some people really enjoy doing it). So when you're ready to get into building your own coils, get yourself an RBA (to go with your iStick) - easier and works sooo much better. Those Radio Shack transistor radios were the first things I thought of when I started seeing box mods come out.And especially for someone like me, who doesn't know diddly-SQUAT yet, ALL opinions (and the reasons for them, of course) are welcomed! I was teetering on the iStick 30 fence, but the shape of it still weirds me out a little, that's all. I can see that I'm ready for that kind of performance now, though. I will use my little batteries until they're no longer dependable, then upgrade. In that time, maybe I'll also become more comfortable with the two way radio shape! LOL! And then, hey, maybe I'll quit calling them "two way radios, eh?"
Someone suggested rewicking these EVOD coils, but both Rich and I have malfunctioning arthritic hands to some degree, and when he took the chimney off the first one to see how it worked, he could NOT get it back on, not for love nor money. So anything that involves removing and replacing the chimney is probably out for us. Later on, when I get a different setup that's easier to take apart and do that, then hell yeah! I'm up for learning how to rebuild them. I've already watched videos on rebuilding these little EVOD types, and it can be done, but I don't think by me. The first one that fries, though, maybe I'll try it. I know more now than I did when we took apart that first one, and that will help, I'm sure.
Thanks for ALL the advice, and ALL the opinions, and especially ALL the different points of view. They all help me learn and make better decisions in the future.
~Lannie
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I have always loved and agreed with your signature line....lol....if I enjoy a tootle puff and it keeps me from smoking....I'm happy!!!
Aw, thanks Uncle!KUDOS - VERY WELL SAID ! ! ! AND - Other then "Quoting" these post - I really wish there was a way to bring more attention to them . . .
Really, No One knows Ya' yet . . .
Okay "YOU" (who no one knows) - IMO - YES, Ya' should have, especially given how long Ya' been around and the knowledge base that "You" have acquired "Young Lady" . . . More importantly, given "Your" ability to put things so succinctly and straightforward, there is so much that others - even the more experienced vapor - can appreciate and learn from too . . . Just Sayin' . . .
BTW: To "My" fellow "Tootle-Puffers" . . . May I have the privilege to introduce to "You" ALL one of "My" ECF Friends who has provided some really great information/helpful hints, comradery, and most importantly - some really great laughs . . .
"Cindycated"
I'm a flavor guy too. I went to a 50W mod because I was running my 14W Provaris as close to the limit as I could (which is not easy on a VV mod). I wanted to see if I could improve the flavor. I run my two 50W mods at about 25W when I am after flavor. I found, for example, that in my Subtank Minis the flavor of a good jucie just explodes at 25W. Any higher and it feels "strained" to me, and I don't think the STM is really designed to go above 25W anyway without making a science out of maximizing juice flow.
And you are correct, something like an iStick 50 has more or less the equivilent of 2x18650 so if you run low power you should get a long run time off of them.
I also found I enjoy 100% VG (unflavored of just a hint) at about 40W in a Troll dripper... it is not a flavorful vape, except that VG is kind of sweet, especially at that power level. I enjoy the dense, sweet feeling of a nice VG cloud. I guess I blow some clouds doing that, and I wouldn't do it out in public for sure, but the cloud blowing is more collateral damage to the taste and sensation I get.
Just to say I was like you, not sure if something along the lines of 30-50W would improve things, and it did. I would never go back. So it is worth a try to see if you like it. And 50W mods are pretty cheap now. And it never hurts to run something below the rated max power, and in fact is usually recommended. When you run a 50W mod at 50W you are pushing its design envelope and this stuff is built to a price point. So there is a LOT of merit to buying a 50W mod but not intending to run it at more than half power. The same way your car might red line at 6.5K but that does not mean you should drive the highway in second gear all the time
Thanks for 'splaining your journey! That helps me.
And yeah, I only ever pushed the redline at the racetrack, except for once when a cotter pin fell out of the tranny, and I had to drive 30 miles in to the service station in 2nd gear. OMG, THAT was a trip I don't like to remember. The tach was practically pegged, and I was dinking along at 25 miles an hour, people honking and passing... what a morning. LOL! Anyway, I get your point, and now I see why a bigger one would be better. I don't have to use all of it. I also like VG juice. Not only the PG seems to irritate my throat, but I like the warm, thick vapor (when the coils' not gunked! LOL!), so now that I'm doing my own, it's all VG except what's in the flavorings and nicotine, so there's not too much in there.
Huh... I was going to tell y'all about the song I came up with this morning (Vapin in the bathtub; set to motley crews " smokin in the boys room") but y'all might psycho-evaluate me... So I'm not tellin
TOO LATE!
~Lannie
That is just fine and that is exactly what I mean. If someone suggests something that does not agree with you - go ahead and say so, no problem with that. What I was referring to was suggestions that are totally shouted down, that lead to a confrontation, that scare people out of speaking their mind for fear of being ostracized, called ignorant etc. That should never be.
Lannie, the main reason I switched over to mechs and RBAs was because I got soooo sick of rebuilding those teeny tiny Kanger heads. Not difficult, but tedious as hell, and not even in a therapeutic way (at least not for me - some people really enjoy doing them). So when you're ready to get into building your own coils, get yourself an RBA (to go with your iStick) - easier and works sooo much better. Those Radio Shack transistor radios were the first things I thought of when I started seeing box mods come out.
Oh, I'm definitely NOT one of those people who would think it's therapeutic! ROFL! I can't even untangle a knot without blowing a gasket. I'm so glad I have Rich, nice, calm, laid back Rich, to fix my shoelaces when I get them knotted, or untangle the mess of string I made when trying to string up a trellis for beans or something. It can get ugly when I'm frustrated by "the little things."
I'll continue to read about other tanks and heads, and when the time comes, I'll prolly be back here asking for advice on THAT. I think it would be fun to learn to do that, but not if I'm having to use a magnifying glass and tweezers. No, that wouldn't be fun for me at all. I'm a go-go-go person, and it's best not to get in my way or try to slow me down, so that kind of tiny work might be beyond my patience level, I think.
~Lannie
One of the regulars over on the rayon thread is doing comparison tests on different brands of nicotine, so there may be others, but I've been hearing a lot of good things about VapersTek nicotine. Not the cheapest, but I hear it's very clean-tasting (no off-flavor), noticeable even down to 3mg (so you could go higher and not have it distort your flavor). Some people have said that their recipes were completely ruined when they had to use other nic brands, so I guess it must be good. Bull City Vapor used to sell small samples, but with the new NC laws and all, they had to stop until they can work something else out (I'm hoping soon), so right now I only know to get it direct (no sample size). I've been dying to try it, but sadly I overbought during the last Wizard Labs sale and don't have the heart (or funds) to throw out what I have.Thanks for 'splaining your journey! That helps me.
I also like VG juice. Not only the PG seems to irritate my throat, but I like the warm, thick vapor (when the coils' not gunked! LOL!), so now that I'm doing my own, it's all VG except what's in the flavorings and nicotine, so there's not too much in there.
TOO LATE!
~Lannie
FYI.
I would think twice about getting an Istick 50W. Lots of reports on them auto firing and seen a few picks of them catching on fire. Eleaf did say only the clones was doing this.
Sadly there is a lot of clones out there. I was duped into getting one off of Fast Tech which is why I will not buy from them again. Around 10 days after I received it, it started autofiring on me while in my shirt pocket. Thats when I found out "Eleaf Istick 50W Styled" didnt mean it was the 50 watt style but that it was a clone.
Sadly there is a lot of clones out there. I was duped into getting one off of Fast Tech which is why I will not buy from them again. Around 10 days after I received it, it started autofiring on me while in my shirt pocket. Thats when I found out "Eleaf Istick 50W Styled" didnt mean it was the 50 watt style but that it was a clone.
i agree with all the posts and comments on each to their own
i have just started vaping and went streight in with an innokin MVP 3 PRO 60W mod
i will admit i have not been over 30w with it but i wanted to try sub ohm vaping and some of the smaller lower wattage devices will not sub ohm so i just decided to buy me a nice mod that should last me
when ever i build or do stuff i always seem to over engineer it just my thing i suppose
and getting older and wiser i have learn that in most cases you tend to get what ya pay for so i didnt want to skimp out on power and quality etc
60w is more than i will ever need for my style of vaping but as said the battery lasts me ages between charges and i can vary my watts and volts to experiment with coils and flavors
i also have a kanger subtank mini and find the occ coils are easy to rebuild and rewick i have not played with the rba deck yet as i am very content with the amount of vapor and flavor i am getting with either 0.5 or 1.2 coils and have rewicked to get good juice flow without dry or flooding issues
as time goes by i will prob try a few different tanks etc but for me for now i am very happy with the results of the set-up i have
i have read elswhere in other threads about batteries and with my previous RC modeling experience i have no doubt that if and when this battery starts to fail i shall be able to find a suitable replacment as lipo,s come in all shapes and sizes etc and the small sizes used in these type of mods are very popular in the wave of small quadcopters about today so it shouldnt be an issue to find a new one when needed
in summery i does what i need and more and is not every ones choosing
you just need to find what works for your own specific way of doing things
we all have our own thing and mine if ya have not already guessed by my name is i love gadgets
keith
i have just started vaping and went streight in with an innokin MVP 3 PRO 60W mod
i will admit i have not been over 30w with it but i wanted to try sub ohm vaping and some of the smaller lower wattage devices will not sub ohm so i just decided to buy me a nice mod that should last me
when ever i build or do stuff i always seem to over engineer it just my thing i suppose
and getting older and wiser i have learn that in most cases you tend to get what ya pay for so i didnt want to skimp out on power and quality etc
60w is more than i will ever need for my style of vaping but as said the battery lasts me ages between charges and i can vary my watts and volts to experiment with coils and flavors
i also have a kanger subtank mini and find the occ coils are easy to rebuild and rewick i have not played with the rba deck yet as i am very content with the amount of vapor and flavor i am getting with either 0.5 or 1.2 coils and have rewicked to get good juice flow without dry or flooding issues
as time goes by i will prob try a few different tanks etc but for me for now i am very happy with the results of the set-up i have
i have read elswhere in other threads about batteries and with my previous RC modeling experience i have no doubt that if and when this battery starts to fail i shall be able to find a suitable replacment as lipo,s come in all shapes and sizes etc and the small sizes used in these type of mods are very popular in the wave of small quadcopters about today so it shouldnt be an issue to find a new one when needed
in summery i does what i need and more and is not every ones choosing
you just need to find what works for your own specific way of doing things
we all have our own thing and mine if ya have not already guessed by my name is i love gadgets
keith
One of the regulars over on the rayon thread is doing comparison tests on different brands of nicotine, so there may be others, but I've been hearing a lot of good things about VapersTek nicotine. Not the cheapest, but I hear it's very clean-tasting (no off-flavor), noticeable even down to 3mg (so you could go higher and not have it distort your flavor). Some people have said that their recipes were completely ruined when they had to use other nic brands, so I guess it must be good. Bull City Vapor used to sell small samples, but with the new NC laws and all, they had to stop until they can work something else out (I'm hoping soon), so right now I only know to get it direct (no sample size). I've been dying to try it, but sadly I overbought during the last Wizard Labs sale and don't have the heart (or funds) to throw out what I have.
FYI.
I have used Wizard labs nicotine, DIY shack nicotine and am using now MyFreedomSmokes nicotine and found all of them flavorless. Can not tell any difference between any of the three in my recipes. I have heard nothing but good about VapersTek nicotine but havent tried them. I have around 700 to 800 ml in the freezer at the moment and will need to dip into it soon so am thinking of getting another liter or two before they start hitting it with outrageous taxes like they did with BullCity.
I get a peppery taste with the batch of Wizard Labs I have...that I actually started liking.
I tried zero nic and to me it was like eating food without salt. But now that I've found decent DIY recipes, wondering how much better they would be without that peppery nuance.
ETA: hahaha guess I could just try them without the nic.
We got our initial batch of nic from Nude Nicotine with the little beginner's DIY kit, but I saw someone recommending MFS nic and the price is great, so we were going to order a larger quantity from them. Is theirs OK? I can tell the difference in taste between 8mg and 12mg in my strawberry juice. The 12 tastes just slightly more peppery to me, kind of hot, and the strawberry flavor doesn't come through as strongly, everything else being equal (same tank, same battery). So I was going to mix future batches at a lower level, and maybe dilute the ones I've already made with more VG and flavoring to knock the nic level down. (Is this OK to talk about here? If not, let me know and I'll come back and delete that paragraph.)
Regarding being happy with what you have, I THOUGHT I was perfectly happy with what I have, but it's that danged Butterbeer's fault! It smells so good, I asked Rich if I could have a taste, and the vapor and draw (OK, the Butterbeer being totally and absolutely DELICIOUS helps) were incredibly better than "what I was happy with." So. Now I want something a little better. Before, I didn't know what I was missing, and I was perfectly satisfied. Now? Not so much!
~Lannie
Regarding being happy with what you have, I THOUGHT I was perfectly happy with what I have, but it's that danged Butterbeer's fault! It smells so good, I asked Rich if I could have a taste, and the vapor and draw (OK, the Butterbeer being totally and absolutely DELICIOUS helps) were incredibly better than "what I was happy with." So. Now I want something a little better. Before, I didn't know what I was missing, and I was perfectly satisfied. Now? Not so much!
~Lannie
And off you go, down the rabbit hole...We got our initial batch of nic from Nude Nicotine with the little beginner's DIY kit, but I saw someone recommending MFS nic and the price is great, so we were going to order a larger quantity from them. Is theirs OK? I can tell the difference in taste between 8mg and 12mg in my strawberry juice. The 12 tastes just slightly more peppery to me, kind of hot, and the strawberry flavor doesn't come through as strongly, everything else being equal (same tank, same battery). So I was going to mix future batches at a lower level, and maybe dilute the ones I've already made with more VG and flavoring to knock the nic level down. (Is this OK to talk about here? If not, let me know and I'll come back and delete that paragraph.)
Regarding being happy with what you have, I THOUGHT I was perfectly happy with what I have, but it's that danged Butterbeer's fault! It smells so good, I asked Rich if I could have a taste, and the vapor and draw (OK, the Butterbeer being totally and absolutely DELICIOUS helps) were incredibly better than "what I was happy with." So. Now I want something a little better. Before, I didn't know what I was missing, and I was perfectly satisfied. Now? Not so much!
~Lannie
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Speaking of Ego stuff... do ya reckon if I bought an Ego charger direct from Joyetech, it would be any better quality than all the others? I have a real pretty ARO winder that uses the Ego-style charger, but I'm scared to use it because the Ego charger is so worrisome; I also don't feel comfortable offering to anyone else, unless it comes with a decent charger.
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