Are YOU a Tootle Puffer??

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A question for Tootle Puffers using TC.

Let's first describe me as a vaper. I like to tootle puff mostly, vape like I used to smoke - short mindless puffs in quick succession. I dislike hot vaping. My Kanthal coils usually range from 1.4 to 2 ohms. I keep my regulated mods on 3.9 to 4.2 volts and go with whatever wattage that gives me on whatever coil I am using. Usually it is closer to 3.9 volts and very rarely above 4. My airflow is usually half open, particularly on my Lemo II. If I have a particularly good and creamy juice loaded I might take the occasional full air flow long puff and enjoy a bit of cloud. But that is a conscious and deliberate kind of vape that depends on a particular mood and doesn't happen very often.

Now I have been thinking of getting the iStick 40 TC. I want something that is cheap and cheerful. The mAh on it is rather modest but then I can go almost a full day on my iStick 20 which has even lower mAh. I want something that i can fully wrap my hand around, with no square edges. 40 watts on my Kanthal coils is way above my needs since I hardly ever go beyond 20 watts even on my iStick 50 - so that does not come into the equation at all.

What I would like to ask is whether I can go on vaping like I do using TC. I have 200ft of 29AWG nickel 200 which I bought in error but from Steam Engine it looks like I would have to go pretty low ohms using that within a reasonable number of wraps. Would Titanium be a better option or doesn't that make any difference at all in TC. I would very much appreciate your input.

Please make your replies apply to me - telling me to get a better, more expensive mod (I buy only from Fasttech) or questioning why I should want TC in the first place would not be addressing my question. :)

Thanks in advance.

PS: If you know of anything that is comparable in size and same kind of ballpark as for price but with interchangeable batteries I would be game too.
Just set the TC40 at the temperature you like to vape and puff away. It applies only enough power of the 40 watts it has to stay at the set temp.
40 watts is more than enough power to reach 600 degrees
 

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Thank you both for your replies - and thank you @AndriaD for being so comprehensive. The iStick is 2600mAh so yes, it is rather on the low side but the the mod is very small and has only one battery whereas I suspect the larger Evic carries 2. And no, I don't think I would enjoy a very warm vape so I think 40watts is more than I will ever need - even 30 is daredevil for me.. only attempted on a couple of occasions when I wanted to be like in your face and not enjoyed at all. :D All in all I think at the price - a mere $30 - it's worth a try. It would have been nice to have an interchangeable battery set up, but again at the price 300 cycles is probably good.

Thanks again.

I am not sure why but in TC mode it eats the batter up a lot faster. I can vape my IPV4 at 20 watts and the batteries will last two days. In TC mode i can only get a day out of it. Something to consider while choosing.
 

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I've gone through Fasttech again. These are the TC mods they carry that come close to my price range and size. The iStick is the smallest and cheapest. The Kangxin is slightly more expensive, runs up to 50 watts, takes interchangeable batteries and is about the size of and iStick 50 (so less handy). The Pioneer is also on the large size and is twice as heavy as the iStick 40 even without the batter inside, takes 18650 batteries, and is the most expensive of the 3.

$29.39 Authentic Eleaf iStick 40W 2600mAh Temperature Control VW APV Box Mod - 1-40W / blue at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
$45.47 Kangxin Mini VF KX-50D Temperature Control 50W VW MOD - 1-50W / 1*18650 / aluminum alloy / grey at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
$50.81 Authentic Pioneer4You iPV D2 75W VW TC APV Box Mod - 1*18650 / 7-75W / aluminum / black at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
 

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I am not sure why but in TC mode it eats the batter up a lot faster. I can vape my IPV4 at 20 watts and the batteries will last two days. In TC mode i can only get a day out of it. Something to consider while choosing.

This exactly -- and besides all that real-time monitoring, I think Boden nailed it -- low resistance coils really do pull amps, which rapidly depletes the battery.

Andria
 

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My wife wanted a vacuum cleaner for Christmas one year. I actually tried to talk her out of it, because I didn't want to be that guy who gave his wife a vacuum for Christmas.

I got her the vacuum cleaner. A really nice (and expensive) Dyson. She insisted.

If I could get her to try to quit smoking I would shower her with vaping gear.

I got mine a Rainbow vacuum maybe 15 years ago. 2 Grand for that puppy. A month or so later she asked me what I was going to get her for christmas and I told her she was just using her christmas present....And the fight started lol

Good thing is we still have that vacuum and it still works great.
 

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This exactly -- and besides all that real-time monitoring, I think Boden nailed it -- low resistance coils really do pull amps, which rapidly depletes the battery.

Andria


I posted without seeing the newer comments but yeah, Boden did nail it.
 
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Just set the TC40 at the temperature you like to vape and puff away. It applies only enough power of the 40 watts it has to stay at the set temp.
40 watts is more than enough power to reach 600 degrees

Gahhh

You are not using 40W. You are getting 40W of heat by passing a number if ampers through the wire.

This is driving me nuts :-x

Volts is a measure of electrical pressure.

Amps is the volume of energy that moves through a circuit in a given time.

Watt is a measurement of work accomplished. In our case heat produced by a wire

i want a vape... ;)
 

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Gahhh

You are not using 40W. You are getting 40W of heat by passing a number if ampers through the wire.

This is driving me nuts :-x

Volts is a measure of electrical pressure.

Amps is the volume of energy that moves through a circuit.

Watt is a measurement of work accomplished. In our case heat produced by a wire

i want a vape... ;)

But you do temp control in Joules....
 

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Gahhh

You are not using 40W. You are getting 40W of heat by passing a number if ampers through the wire.

This is driving me nuts :-x

Volts is a measure of electrical pressure.

Amps is the volume of energy that moves through a circuit.

Watt is a measurement of work accomplished. In our case heat produced by a wire

i want a vape... ;)

That's all true, but what we SET is WATTS -- not the other stuff. So it's really somewhat irrelevant to the discussion, except as it relates to the rapid battery depletion.

What we're trying to address is the idea, which I suffered at first myself, that 30-40w is a lot -- yes it is, for a tootle puffer, but you're not vaping at that wattage, you're vaping at whatever temp you select; the wattage you select is the power to get it to that set temp.

Andria
 

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Gahhh

You are not using 40W. You are getting 40W of heat by passing a number if ampers through the wire.

This is driving me nuts :-x

Volts is a measure of electrical pressure.

Amps is the volume of energy that moves through a circuit in a given time.

Watt is a measurement of work accomplished. In our case heat produced by a wire

i want a vape... ;)


You forgot joules!
 

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You forgot joules!

Some TC mods have something about joules, but the Evic-VT does not -- you set the temp you want, and it does that. And thank god for that because I wouldn't know a joule if it bit me in the .....

Andria
 

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The reason that temp control uses lower resistance coils is because NI200 wire is low resistance and you could not fit a 1.2 ohm NI200 coil in most atomizers.

A 1.2 ohm NI200 28ga 2mm coil would take 121 wraps....

Yeah - titanium is a little more forgiving in that sense. At 28AWG titanium you can get 0.8 ohms doing 14 wraps round a 2.5mm bit... that's according to Steam Engine of course as I wouldn't have a clue. :)
 

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That's all true, but what we SET is WATTS -- not the other stuff. So it's really somewhat irrelevant to the discussion, except as it relates to the rapid battery depletion.

What we're trying to address is the idea, which I suffered at first myself, that 30-40w is a lot -- yes it is, for a tootle puffer, but you're not vaping at that wattage, you're vaping at whatever temp you select; the wattage you select is the power to get it to that set temp.

Andria

I was watching the screen of this Snow Wolf as I was mod womping on the RDA and that puppy is bumping 70 watts for a 500 F vape but once it reaches temp in backs off drastically.
 
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