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Robert Cromwell

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That would be two of the biggest causes. (my maths is strong. ;)
A fireman I know says driers are the biggest cause of house fires, I dunno I blame excessive heat.
combustable materials are the biggest cause of house fires.
 

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Hate to say it but that's my fire proof box :eek:
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I dunno, I can't get behind a box like that, keeping all that heat in, around the batteries. I have a nitecore i4 which I had to stop using, because I noticed a couple of times it getting extremely warm while charging batteries -- that can't be a good thing. Now I use my Luc2, and I've never seen any untoward behavior from it, but I still wouldn't want to put it into a box that would hold all the heat in; I like to investigate it while it's working, feel it, see if it's more thabn *just slightly* warm.

I learned about unattended charging when I first got here, so I never ever do that... I like to participate, to know what the thing is up to, which would be hard with it inside a box. Like that infamous cat... is it dead? Is it alive? It's neither, or both, till you open the box.

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@TrollDragon - I have re-coiled my Rose. Yes, 26 gauge definitely works better and it is much easier to work with in the Rose. Used the split wick again and it's doing fine. I have 1.1ohms and am running it at 16 watts. I know I could go higher but generally I try to never go beyond 4.2 volts so with a 1.1ohm coil I'm getting 16 watts. It's good enough for me.
 

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@TrollDragon - I have re-coiled my Rose. Yes, 26 gauge definitely works better and it is much easier to work with in the Rose. Used the split wick again and it's doing fine. I have 1.1ohms and am running it at 16 watts. I know I could go higher but generally I try to never go beyond 4.2 volts so with a 1.1ohm coil I'm getting 16 watts. It's good enough for me.
16 watts!!!!
My God, STOP the insanity!:danger:
I have been to 10, once.
 

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OK so now I am curious. I know with all of the lipo guard bags I have (purchased 4 years ago) there are 2 inch openings at the fold on either side and even with 4 18650 batteries or a mix of 18650, 18350 and 14500 batteries charging at the same time on my nitecore intellicharger i4 charger I have never felt the charger or batteries even get a little warm while charging? I also use the bags when I charge my isticks, coolfire, MVP2s, ego one, egos batteries and none have ever gotten warm while charging? Is is the norm for batteries and/or chargers to get warm or hot while charging? The only time I had any type of issue was with the (proprietary)wall wart charger I bought with my coolfire that got super hot while charging and after the vendor replaced it no more issues.
It's the charge rate that matters. 0.5A or less will barely warm up the charger or battery's. If you put a 18650 on a 1A charger it will heat up to around 95*F while charging and the charger itself will get warm.
 

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I am sorry Robert, you have a lack of understandings of fire, combustible materials do not cause fires any more than guns kill people. :evil:

Technically you are correct there is a source of ignition to ignite the combustable material.
But without a combustable house where will be no house fire.
 

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It's the charge rate that matters. 0.5A or less will barely warm up the charger or battery's. If you put a 18650 on a 1A charger it will heat up to around 95*F while charging and the charger itself will get warm.
Yep charging an 18650 at 350 ma showed no appreciable warming using an infrared thermometer. I figure it's core warmed a bit but cooled by ambient air on the outer case.
 

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I dunno, I can't get behind a box like that, keeping all that heat in, around the batteries. I have a nitecore i4 which I had to stop using, because I noticed a couple of times it getting extremely warm while charging batteries -- that can't be a good thing. Now I use my Luc2, and I've never seen any untoward behavior from it, but I still wouldn't want to put it into a box that would hold all the heat in; I like to investigate it while it's working, feel it, see if it's more thabn *just slightly* warm.

I learned about unattended charging when I first got here, so I never ever do that... I like to participate, to know what the thing is up to, which would be hard with it inside a box. Like that infamous cat... is it dead? Is it alive? It's neither, or both, till you open the box.

Andria
The box is vented
 
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Thank you everyone-the new baby is doing great (and so are his parents) they will be going home today so no more back and forth to the hospital for this tired grandma!

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Our legislator's disagree (with you).

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I'm due to get a little windfall in a month or two's time - I think I'll be putting a Kabuki on my short-list of vape related items to buy :)
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Your all right, that was a bit of a weird experience, PG doesn't taste very nice at all but VG tasted quite good and is def sweeter, I won't be doing that again anytime soon though.

The things I do for you hey ;)

What ratio do most of you vape please ? I'm just wondering if tootlers use a higher PG or is that a myth..pretty new to the tootling world

This tootler does, 86/14, for the same reason I'm a tootler.... can't take too much vapor, whether it's from heat or high VG; plus, VG leaves some nasty residue behind in my lungs, that I can't cough up to save my life.

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But without a combustable house where will be no house fire.

Which is probably why we have relatively few house fires here - all our houses are built with limestone or concrete for larger constructions. Or maybe we have fewer fires because there are fewer vapers. :D
 

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The box is vented

Ok... but you still wouldn't know if the charger was getting too warm, with it inside a box; you have to touch it to know that.

Great to contain any battery-venting behavior, but I'd really prefer to prevent that behavior in the first place, by being aware of too much heat.

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It's the charge rate that matters. 0.5A or less will barely warm up the charger or battery's. If you put a 18650 on a 1A charger it will heat up to around 95*F while charging and the charger itself will get warm.

My Luc2 *barely* warms at all, charging either an 18650 or an 18500 at 1A. My nitecore i4 got HOT while charging an 18350.

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16 watts!!!!
My God, STOP the insanity!:danger:
I have been to 10, once.

It depends on resistance doesn't it. If you're running 1.8 ohm coils obviously you are never exceeding 10watts at 4.2 volts. I like to think of it as saying : If I were using a mech mod with fresh batteries what would it be like..... and always stay at that level. Usually my coils are around 1.4 to 1.6 so my normal vape would be at around 10 to 11 watts (even lower with a juice that "burns" easily) but Trolldragon suggested lower ohms for the Rose so I tried it. Another aspect of living on the edge. :)
 

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A fireman I know says driers are the biggest cause of house fires, I dunno I blame excessive heat.

Actually, its because people don't clean the vents and the heat has no where to escape. The vent to the outside of home gets clogged with lint and can't blow the heat out anymore. I check that every few months.

Highest number of house fires are caused by simple stuff like burning open candles and of course, smoking. :)

#1 reason for house fires? People who try to put out a small fire themselves before calling 911 and it gets "out of hand" fast. Even simple wastepaper basket fires. Those are the stats.

I charge my ego batts on a large thick glass sheet that came out of an early microwave oven when they were made super large.

I'm not saying go crazy, I'm just saying have a class A fire extinguisher in your house (please) for the every day stuff, and if you vape, a good idea is to have a class D one as well

I see posts where people have a venting batt in a mod or something, they have to carry it outside to toss, or sit and watch helplessly while it sits on carpet/linoleum/wood floor burning a hole and destroying the floor. That "can" cause a fire, even if the battery is venting not exploding.

I would not want to be searching for a towel to pick up and toss outside when I could just spray it down with the extinguisher.
 
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That would be two of the biggest causes. (my maths is strong. ;)
A fireman I know says driers are the biggest cause of house fires, I dunno I blame excessive heat.
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Yes, a dryer full of lint is a bonfire just waiting to happen...
 

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It depends on resistance doesn't it. If you're running 1.8 ohm coils obviously you are never exceeding 10watts at 4.2 volts. I like to think of it as saying : If I were using a mech mod with fresh batteries what would it be like..... and always stay at that level. Usually my coils are around 1.4 to 1.6 so my normal vape would be at around 10 to 11 watts (even lower with a juice that "burns" easily) but Trolldragon suggested lower ohms for the Rose so I tried it. Another aspect of living on the edge. :)
Sorry.
I forget that people change the res. In their attys. I'm way to conservative with things sometimes. I shutter at the thought of change.
 
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