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For any of you guys that still need to stock up on nicotine base River Supply Co is having a 25 percent off sale on various strengths. I just purchased another 500ML of 250MG. According to my calculations I have about 27 years worth now. I feel content.
 

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    All major battery manufacturers other than Molicel have added that warning.

    Could this actually be viewed as a good thing by us? Because if they have "Not for vaping" on all of them I'd think they'd be even less likely to get regulated (as in government not battery tech) in the future.
     

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    Time for a coil change on this TFV12. It's dumping like a 1/4 ml out the air holes on every fill. Wouldn't have tolerated that for a week if I was buying juice that's for sure!

    Finally starting to get curious about the thousands of dollars worth of gear I have just sitting in my cabinet, mostly my RTAs. Think it's time I give rebuilding another shot.
     

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    Time for a coil change on this TFV12. It's dumping like a 1/4 ml out the air holes on every fill. Wouldn't have tolerated that for a week if I was buying juice that's for sure!

    Finally starting to get curious about the thousands of dollars worth of gear I have just sitting in my cabinet, mostly my RTAs. Think it's time I give rebuilding another shot.
    I picked up a bunch of pre coiled stainless wire from FT, very cheap. I can make my own but like the convenience for so little money, like pennies per coil. Seems to me like this would be the wrong moment to sell vape stuff, may be better for investment. On the other hand governments should be getting some pushback from a few million of us citizens. May be they'll change their minds. Did I mention that 2020 is the hundredth anniversery year of alcohol prohibition? Google some retrospective articles about how it began.
     

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    Time for a coil change on this TFV12. It's dumping like a 1/4 ml out the air holes on every fill. Wouldn't have tolerated that for a week if I was buying juice that's for sure!

    I don't have one. But for most top fill tanks I find it useful right after filling and the top cap back on, tip it upside down and have an air bubble hitting at least one juice slot. Let it sit for a minute or two to allow the air pressure to escape through the wicking. Instead of the juice being forced though instead. You might get a drip or two out of the drip tip, but it should be far less than normal.
     

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    Don't worry. It will be the same for vape hardware like mods and attys. Soon they will say for use with non-tobacco products to be exempt from the PMTA.
    While I fervently hope this is true I do not for a minute believe it will be that easy to get around the PMTA.

    Batterys can get away with it. They are actually designed for things other than vaping. I was not kidding about that lantern and I know there are many flashlights that use the same batterys we do. Vaping simply used batterys that existed for other reasons.

    The same can be said for other things that will stay on the market without PMTA. VG and PG being obvious examples. Same for cotton makeup pads.

    Simply relabeling as CBD devices if it works at all will not work for long. I am certain it will get reigned in quickly. Most of the devices I saw on CBD sites that MIGHT be used for vaping are the kinds of things I would have used in 2013-2014. I do not see the more advanced devices of vaping today getting away with suddenly appearing on those sites with a simple label change.
     

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    Vape Sale – Mods, Juices, Accessories & More
     

    BillW50

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    While I fervently hope this is true I do not for a minute believe it will be that easy to get around the PMTA.

    This is how head shops got around the weed laws for decades. They just claimed their devices were for tobacco. How times have changed. As now they will be saying it is for weed and not for tobacco. :p
     

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    This is how head shops got around the weed laws for decades. They just claimed their devices were for tobacco. How times have changed. As now they will be saying it is for weed and not for tobacco. :p
    I am very much old enough to remember well that is what head shops did. I just do not for a minute believe it is going to work for any length of time now with regard to vaping. The climate feels very different to me now than it was in the late 70's early 80s when I was interested in the products head shops sold. Back then there sort of was a nudge nudge look the other way attitude. Now it is more of a OMG stamp them into non existence active hunting of vapers.
     

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    Just went to Imrbatteries...their picture of the Samsung-30Q shows "NOT FOR E-CIG OR VAPE" imprinted in black ink on the side of it...

    My old 30Q's do NOT have this imprinted on their sides...is this something new or true...or is it just to keep the lawyers off their ...???

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    Yeah these batteries aren't meant to be used in Vape devices these aren't meant to be used by consumers at all. But yes this is mainly a legal protection for them
     
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    BillW50

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    I am very much old enough to remember well that is what head shops did. I just do not for a minute believe it is going to work for any length of time now with regard to vaping. The climate feels very different to me now than it was in the late 70's early 80s when I was interested in the products head shops sold. Back then there sort of was a nudge nudge look the other way attitude. Now it is more of a OMG stamp them into non existence active hunting of vapers.

    Unless the laws change in the future, there is nothing they could do about it. They only have the authority to regulate tobacco products. :D
     

    BillW50

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    Yeah these batteries aren't meant to be used in Vape devices these aren't meant to be used by consumers at all. But yes this is mainly a legal protection for them

    Some of them are manufactured for vape devices. Take Aspire batteries for example. They are manufactured by the Yongdeli Battery Factory for Aspire and manufactured to Aspire's specifications.
     

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    Some of them are manufactured for vape devices. Take Aspire batteries for example. They are manufactured by the Yongdeli Battery Factory for Aspire and manufactured to Aspire's specifications.
    Manufactured or marketed? Like do they make their own specific battery to their own specifications for Aspire directly or do they put an aspire wrap on a already existing battery?
     

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    Some of them are manufactured for vape devices. Take Aspire batteries for example. They are manufactured by the Yongdeli Battery Factory for Aspire and manufactured to Aspire's specifications.
    Also if they directly come from an e cigarette manufacturer I have a suspicion that they will be removed from the market since it's hard to say these aren't tobacco devices if they have a tobacco devices name on them or at least what the United States says is a tobacco device. Same goes for Ohmtech and the other one that actually acknowledges e-cigarettes. It's hard to argue it's a flashlight battery or a drone battery if it literally has a vape device name on it. So that's going to probably end up having to change if they want to keep their product on the market though I don't think they're going to focus on that right away. If it's marketed towards vaping devices then it is a tobacco device and will eventually be included and enforced I suspect meanwhile Sony and Samsung lg advantage to distance themselves and will probably face absolutely zero problems. Then again that's only an issue in the United States these companies could just remarket for the United States
     

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    Unless the laws change in the future, there is nothing they could do about it. They only have the authority to regulate tobacco products. :D

    All they have to do is declare that thing x is an adulterated tobacco product and therefore subject to pmta. No change in law required. Also the FDA has reserved for themselves the ability to change the rules/guidance as they see fit. Given that, if we blatantly try to get around the rules in such a manner I bet they will indeed shut it down hard.

    Let me also add that watching this whole thing unfold over the years I know well there are ANTZ and FDA people that read ECF and other forums/social media. The fact that this is discussed here means the idea of doing this is either already in their hands or soon will be. A response will likely be fairly swift. They have been entirely too good at shutting down all the ideas we come up with to get around things over the years.

    Looking at your join date, you know this to be true.
     

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    Manufactured or marketed? Like do they make their own specific battery to their own specifications for Aspire directly or do they put an aspire wrap on a already existing battery?

    Manufactured. Phil Busardo did a whole video on Aspire's battery manufacturing process.

     

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