I think it's up to 30lbs too, the language is in the pact act I think, this just classes vape product regardless of nicotine as products that fall under pact, enforced by the atf though, which is scary but still not illegal for us to ship or receive, and .... it all anyhow, they can eat my.... and go suck a ....
Current postal regulations for shipping tobacco products consumer to consumer say total package weight limit is 10 ounces.
So after a Mailer/Box/Packing Peanuts and a Container, you be looking at 180 ~ 220ml of e-Liquid or so.
At least that's what the Back of the Envelope Calculation says.
Current postal regs for cigarettes and smokeless tobacco summarized for C2C shipments. Don't know if Pact Act is changing any of it.
Strange that it doesn't mention pipe tobacco or cigars
DMM Revision: Treatment of Cigarettes and Smokeless Tobacco as Nonmailable Matter
- Package weight must be no more than 10 oz.
- Must be shipped using face-to-face service. In other words, must present to postal worker at USPS counter. No pickups allowed. Proof of age and identity of sender must be verified with govt issued photo ID.
- Must be sent with "Express Mail" (I take this to mean Priority Express? - expensive, minimum $25 but more if Adult 21+ Signature service is required to be purchased, not clear on that. You will be paying retail rates since you have to buy this postage at the post office, so it might even be closer to $30+ all tolled).
- Must bear real, full names of shipper and recipient on shipping label.
- Outside of package must be labeled with wording "PERMITTED TOBACCO MAILING – DELIVER ONLY TO AGE-VERIFIED ADULT OF LEGAL AGE"
- Package cannot be delivered to recipient. Recipient must pick up package at post office and proof of age and identity of recipient must be verified with govt issued photo ID. Recipient must sign PS Form 3849.
- One person cannot mail more than 10 such shipments a 30-day period (meaning, you will be put in a database to track your identity to how many tobaco shipments you made in the last 30-days, which is why you have to ship it via a trip to the post office).
Strange that it doesn't mention pipe tobacco or cigars
DMM Revision: Treatment of Cigarettes and Smokeless Tobacco as Nonmailable Matter
- Package weight must be no more than 10 oz.
- Must be shipped using face-to-face service. In other words, must present to postal worker at USPS counter. No pickups allowed. Proof of age and identity of sender must be verified with govt issued photo ID.
- Must be sent with "Express Mail" (I take this to mean Priority Express? - expensive, minimum $25 but more if Adult 21+ Signature service is required to be purchased, not clear on that. You will be paying retail rates since you have to buy this postage at the post office, so it might even be closer to $30+ all tolled).
- Must bear real, full names of shipper and recipient on shipping label.
- Outside of package must be labeled with wording "PERMITTED TOBACCO MAILING – DELIVER ONLY TO AGE-VERIFIED ADULT OF LEGAL AGE"
- Package cannot be delivered to recipient. Recipient must pick up package at post office and proof of age and identity of recipient must be verified with govt issued photo ID. Recipient must sign PS Form 3849.
- One person cannot mail more than 10 such shipments a 30-day period (meaning, you will be put in a database to track your identity to how many tobaco shipments you made in the last 30-days, which is why you have to ship it via a trip to the post office).
Ouch, little worse than I'd hope but still, we can work with that, and asking China to ship they're using China post or some such and who and how can anyone be in the wrong? We figure it's still illegal to order something from China and have it accidentally end up coming usps at the end?
I had 3 of those mods give out on me in 2 years time. You sure you got an authentic Smok Mag 225w or maybe you got a clone? I'm sure a clone would last a lot longer.
When this thread first started I had no plan to start stocking up. Now I have a lifetime supply of nic base (I’m 80 years old), I just laid in 100 coils, I have 2 units I use daily and 5 new ones in stock. About a years supply of VG & PG but that should be available for some time to come. I can thumb my nose at these .....’s that think they know what’s best for me
Weight of some mods & kits in manufacturer's packaging and juice in glass.
Swag 2/NRG PE kit - 10oz.
Swag 2 mod - 6.5oz.
Pico 75W/Melo 3 Mini kit - 9.8 oz.
Pico 75W mod - 8 oz.
4oz glass bottle of PG nic - 8.5 oz. (bottle & cap weight is 4oz)
1oz glass bottle of PG nic - 3 oz. (bottle & cap weight is 1.5oz)
ETA: I just got done weighing various different priority mail boxes and PM padded envelopes (which I know are the same as PM Express) and you can figure proper packing materials to add and additional 2-3 oz. But with the way some people have shipped things to me, I'd never be buying nic base from most people.
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The Last time I shipped a Mod using USPS, the person at the PO asked me if these was "any Flammable Liquids or anything Hazardous? Any Batteries?" I looked Her right in the I eye and said... "No. It's a Hobby Power Supply. No Battery". She said Great and slapped the Postage on it.
If I ever ship a Mod again, I'm going to tell them the Same Thing. No Matter what it Weighs.
If you're going to take the "stealth" option then, as I posted in another thread yesterday or so, might as well go full stealth and just print shipping online and either drop it in a blue box or schedule a free pickup. Postage is cheaper online (through Paypal or other online postage places due to them getting "commercial base rate"), no lines, no interrogations, no etc. OBLIGATORY: "But it's not legal".
No, If I am going to Mail something like a Mod, I'm going to walk right up to the Counter and have the PO person put the Postage on it. And I'm going to give the Camera hanging on the Wall a Full full 5 Second look so the AI can Cross Reference my Face.
I'm Not Doing Anything wrong Shipping a Mod that Doesn't have a Battery in it. No Reason to Act like I am.
Yep it can be. Companies can request that nicotine be tested from either blood, urine or saliva just like they do for drugs, THC, etc. Some companies do this already due to their tobacco policies. Insurance is another reason companies do it.
Strange that it doesn't mention pipe tobacco or cigars
I make NETs using Pipe tobacco and cigars. I buy both forms of tobacco online from vendors here in the US using Paypal and have the tobacco shipped, no signature required, to my house.... FedEx, USPS and UPS have no issues with handling these shipments. Go figure.
I was asking whether or not a test could be devised to differentiate cotinine from smoking cigarettes and cotinine from vaping.
OK, understand now. No I don't think it can be, nor do they care if it could. Tobacco is Tobacco, etc....In their eyes.
I see young people buying cigars and cutting the sides and dumping the tobacco so the casing can be refilled with something else. I wonder why those kids aren't worth saving...hmmm
Probably not cotinine, but some other test. Perhaps a metabolite of PG or VG being very high. High Nickel or Chromium will detect some but not all.
Received the Smok Zmax Mini Starter Kit today. I wasn't sure if the battery would be any good after sitting on the shelf these past seven years, but it was at 3.7 volts out of the box. I vaped it down to 3.3 volts and put it in the charger. It's only a 750mah rated battery. It took 566mah to bring it to full charge, so I think it still has some useful life.
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