shamefully,,i can say we have that stupid snake one......yes,, my husband picked it out. (i wont post my actual thoughts on that tacky thing.....oops,,,,i lied,, i just did).. but being 'open minded' i gave it a try..........hot,, toooooooo darn hot.. and like vaping through a coffee stir stick......its designed to sell to newbies.Speaking of dt, I keep seeing the snake head one for sale and I just couldn't ever use that. Not a fan of metal ones and don't like wide bores either.