I haven't started stockpiling, but I have moved into mechanicals and rebuilding not without some conscious thought about pending FDA rulings.
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£8 GBP = about 12.81 Canadian right now. Governments should really whack the tax on cigs much more but they won't because of revenue loss.
They would do it if they really believed in our health - but it's actually more useful to them for us to die younger before we have to become a burden on the state.
All governments want to keep work-units healthy. When you "retire" - look out!
I am not hoarding.. In my case I think stockpiling fits the bill..
My *plan* is to have 1000ml of juice before the announcement. That would last me about 8 months.. If nothing happens then I guess I won't be buying juice for a while..
I have enough high end PV's, RBA's and rda's to last a lifetime and then some!
My *plan* is to have 1000ml of juice before the announcement. That would last me about 8 months.. If nothing happens then I guess I won't be buying juice for a while..
I have enough high end PV's, RBA's and rda's to last a lifetime and then some!
This brings up an interesting thought:
Since it is unlikely that hardware will be affected much, but with juice prices skyrocketing - is some genius mod maker going to come up with a device/atty/coil design that produces the same amount of VTF (Vapor, Flavor and Throat Hit) but from a miniscule amount of juice?
That's what I wanna see in the future of ecigs right there.
Since it is unlikely that hardware will be affected much, but with juice prices skyrocketing - is some genius mod maker going to come up with a device/atty/coil design that produces the same amount of VTF (Vapor, Flavor and Throat Hit) but from a miniscule amount of juice?
That's what I wanna see in the future of ecigs right there.
Not only that, they have already tried to introduce such a bill...
https://www.popvox.com/bills/us/112/s1403
Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think they could ban stuff being bought from china. Or tax it as the FDA has no authority overseas.
If they did decide to start siezing packages the chinese could always just send you the dissasembled parts and make you do it yourself lol. Impractical I know but it would circumvent the FDA rulings if they went that far.
And anybody can make liquid so I'm not too worried there. Just buy and extract your favorite tobacco and add flavorings. Sure it would limit you from having all those pure fruit or candy flavors but meh its better then nothing.
I've been toying with the idea of doing my own NET stuff anyways as it's cheaper and I could produce exactly the flavor I want without having to try flavors from 100 different vendors to get my ADV.
If they did decide to start siezing packages the chinese could always just send you the dissasembled parts and make you do it yourself lol. Impractical I know but it would circumvent the FDA rulings if they went that far.
And anybody can make liquid so I'm not too worried there. Just buy and extract your favorite tobacco and add flavorings. Sure it would limit you from having all those pure fruit or candy flavors but meh its better then nothing.
I've been toying with the idea of doing my own NET stuff anyways as it's cheaper and I could produce exactly the flavor I want without having to try flavors from 100 different vendors to get my ADV.
haven't been what you say stockpiling but in still new to vaping but have learned to diy my own juice and know what i put in it, buying juice premade worried me as how would you know what was used to make it unless it was from someone you trusted with all the new B&Ms opening around me I have no Ideal where there juice comes from they could be making it in there bathtub for all I know, so I have learned to diy .
yes I will buy a few extra bottles of nic in the next few weeks just incase something does happen. and im cutting back my nic also im down to 12 mg from 36 in the last month and hoping to get down to 6mg in the near future
yes I will buy a few extra bottles of nic in the next few weeks just incase something does happen. and im cutting back my nic also im down to 12 mg from 36 in the last month and hoping to get down to 6mg in the near future
They would simply seize it... *If* they tax nicotine then un-taxed juice coming from China would be snatched up and heaved into the FDA furnace...
Just a quick caveat. Extracting nicotine from tobacco isn't all that straightforward. It seems as if it should be, but the hard bit is measuring the strength accurately. I'm not being fussy here - if you get that wrong you can die.
They already have a history of seizing shipments of anything electronic cigarette related.
It took the Supreme Count to stop them...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ads-everything-relevant-njoy-vs-fda-case.html
Yup... I remember that going down and I think there was also an issue with stuff getting seized in 2010 as well.. Or was that thread you posted the same as the 2010 issue?
Edit: Just looked and yes this is what happened in 2010..
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I know this wasn't addressed to me but I can't attend these meetings because my internet connection isn't fast enough. Or something like that, I remember checking into it a month or so ago but I couldn't join the meetings.
Yes, but just because FDA did it once doesn't mean that they will do it again, especially since the courts instructed FDA to regulate e-liquid as a tobacco product, not a drug after the seizure.
Beware of fallacy.
Joe crosses street and get hits by car. Therefore, Joe will get hit by a car when he crosses every street.
The point is that the FDA has shown their desire to combat electronic cigarettes.
And they are the ones now holding the keys to the future of vaping.
Are you advocating that we trust them with those keys?
And they are the ones now holding the keys to the future of vaping.
Are you advocating that we trust them with those keys?
Are we talking about the same Federal Government here???
You better bet the FDA will flex their muscle again if they so choose and you better bet they will seize items if they choose..
Will a court knock them down again? Perhaps BUT I just wanted to make sure you are aware that we are talking about the US Government here..
BINGO
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Lets not get the prickly heat about Federal government, OK?
I prefer to see what FDA does next without the fantasy projections.
I prefer to see what FDA does next without the fantasy projections.
Heck NO!
However, since they lost their original "Power Play", and further testing has not shown DEG or major problems, maybe (we can hope) they do their job rather than "take a stance". There are other factors....courts, public opinion, BT playing in the field...so we'll see if they stay open about it, try to restrict it, try to own it, or become tools.
(rolls dice....and stocks up on juice...and waits to see)
Right? For all we know, tomorrow may see a Vogon Constructor Fleet showing up to make way for a hyperspace bypass.
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