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Ares, new MTL RTA designed by Phil Busardo and Dimitirs Agrafiotis

Discussion in 'RTA' started by VictorC, Nov 3, 2017.

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  1. VictorC

    VictorC Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 26, 2015
    Toronto, Ontario
    Glad to see another new MTL RTA coming to the market soon. Hope it's OK to share FB screenshot:

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  2. Izan

    Izan Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jul 1, 2012
    Mallorca, Spain
    Doggy Style V2 ?

    Color me ---Meh.

    Cheers
    I

    ETA: :facepalm: SIREN V3 :ohmy::ohmy::ohmy:
     
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  3. DPLongo22

    DPLongo22 Variety IS the spice of vaping. Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Dec 17, 2011
    Midworld
    Without the PITA AFC ring (gone!), and the tough base removal to fill...

    I see similarities too though, TBH.
     
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  4. VictorC

    VictorC Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 26, 2015
    Toronto, Ontario
    I don't think so, more like a Siren V2

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  5. Katdarling

    Katdarling Bling Kween and spreadsheet monster. ;) Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Jan 25, 2011
    Utopia
    Sublimed. I mean, subscribed.
     
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  6. capthook

    capthook Super Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 3, 2015
    North Carolina
    Sweet!
    So it's Ares, not Platform Zenith RTA?
    Or is there a Zenith coming too?

    Thanks for the post/pics!
     
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  7. capthook

    capthook Super Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 3, 2015
    North Carolina
    And it does look like a Siren...
    With the elevated GTA deck and wicks hanging down.
     
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  8. capthook

    capthook Super Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 3, 2015
    North Carolina
    More pics:
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  9. capthook

    capthook Super Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 3, 2015
    North Carolina
    'New' youtube video with tank closeups:
    watch from 28:00 to 35:30 minutes
    ETA: Slider top cap!
     
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  10. ScottP

    ScottP Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 9, 2013
    Houston, TX
    It appears they changed the name from what they called it in DJLsb's video from the Vape Expo I posted in the other thread. They did keep the "Platform" series part though. Maybe they just changed the name of the RTA and the Zenith will be the one with drop in coils. I did predict the RTA would be setup similar to the Siren though. Can't wait to see some real reviews of this for sure.
     
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  11. Kusie

    Kusie Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 21, 2017
    Germany
    Nice... hope it will be good! If reviews are good i´ll buy one for shure.
    Edit: how many ml does this hold? ID of base? 22 or 24/25 mm?
     
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  12. IDJoel

    IDJoel Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 20, 2015
    Boise, ID
    Okay... ah... "designing equipment to cater to the smoker, and the overabundance of 12 & 18mg/mL" e-liquids that vape shops can't sell (video ref'd in post #9: 28:05-28:50). That's a different business platform. Sounds like they are more interested in reaching the potential/new vapers, and helping vape shops unload less desirable(?) product verses offering something actually new/different? I'm not really sure; but the video didn't offer anything that made me feel particularly "warm and fuzzy."

    (I do appreciate another offering to the MTL/flavor chasers vs. one more cloud-chucker; but they didn't say one word on how it is any better/different than others in the same class.:blink:)
     
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  13. TheotherSteveS

    TheotherSteveS Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 14, 2015
    London, England
    better get that wicking right....Cant say I'm overly impressed to be honest.
     
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  14. ScottP

    ScottP Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 9, 2013
    Houston, TX
    What did you start with when you first moved from smoking to vaping? Did you start off with a mega cloud chucker? A lot of smokers that try to switch to vaping using a wide open airflow subohm cloud monster are overwhelmed, go into coughing fits and go back to smoking. Also if you try to use 12mg in those setups you will be getting a LOT of nic. The goal of this tank is to help smokers switch easier by more closely replicating the draw and cloud level they got from smoking. Probably similar to the old Evods and such for draw and vapor. However this tank CAN be adjusted (has AF control and TWO different size drip tips) so you can open it more to get a looser MTL and maybe even a tight DL hit off of it at the widest open settings. This makes it more of a transitional tank. The higher ohms and tighter AF you use, the higher mg nic you can use. So this is why they mentioned those juices.

    At least that is my take on it from what I have seen/heard.
     
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  15. ScottP

    ScottP Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 9, 2013
    Houston, TX
    OH I also heard that due to some final modifications they just went into production 5 days ago and that the official release will be Black Friday. Maybe we can catch them on a good first day BF sale.
     
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  16. ScottP

    ScottP Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 9, 2013
    Houston, TX
    OK so it appears I was right about the drop in coil still being called the Zenith. Here is a pic from Dimi titled "Hers and His!" #Zenith #Ares. So the one on the left is the Zenith with drop in coils and the one on the right is the Ares RTA.

    Also here is where I found the Official launch date being Nov 24th Black Friday:
    #Repost @vapingreek (@get_repost) ・・・ Sneak pea... • luisbita

    They look to be sitting flush on the Innokin Kroma-A which is going to put them in the 24-24.5mm diameter range. (so about the same size as the Serpent SMM or the SMOK TF-RTA)

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  17. WorksForMe

    WorksForMe Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Sep 21, 2012
    N.N., Virginia
    I'm sure this has been talked about on the forum and I missed it but....

    What's the reason for the deck being in the middle of the tank? Years ago, most clearos had top coils with wicks hanging down into the tank. The wicking was pretty sketchy, and you got a lot of dry hits. It was a major improvement when they started putting the coils on the bottom of the tank.

    As critical as Busardo is, I'm sure he has a reason.
     
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  18. MMW

    MMW Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Oct 8, 2015
    NH
    Probably to avoid having to use crappy juice flow control.
     
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  19. ppeeble

    ppeeble Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 9, 2013
    Poole UK
    As long as it works..... I was sceptical over the Doggystyle with the raised deck but, for me, it's the best MTL tank yet produced.No flooding or dry hits ever. I hope this performs as well with easier filling.
     
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  20. Katya

    Katya ECF Guru Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Feb 23, 2010
    SoCal
    I'm not sure. Hated the top coils--hot coil too close to my lips, hot vapor, spitting, perpetual wicking issues. And those octopus-like tentacles floating in my joose. Oy. I guess they have a reason, but I'm not convinced it's a good one. :lol:

    Waiting for some real life reviews.
     
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