Arrow Genisis (leak proof) atty roll call

[Turbo]

I'm surprised there's not a thread on this unique atty. 'TheHill Giant' did a review on it which sparked my interest, even though I prefer Hybrids. It's made by Korean mod maker 'Yellow kiss' who also makes the 'Ba Gua'. In fact they are mated for each other being 17mm diameter. It's touted as being a leak proof Genny, which is the first of it's kind to my knowledge. As the review shows, this happens when the air hole and drip tip are closed. You still have to wait for the juice to return back into the tank, but being a single wick user that I am, this should happen quicker. There are opposing air holes for double wick/coil users.

I have one on order and am excited to try it. I also have to get a mod for it, but will probably get the Ba Gua. I'll use this as my out and about mod and like that it holds 2.5ml. Pretty impressive for being so tiny. There's a larger one in the works too. Anybody have one now? Thoughts? Roll call!

 

[GuataLOOP]

Both the Bagua and the Arrow are made by Team Rampage. Your correct about them being Korean. Same makers of the ADAM, AMR, and APS.


They have great quality products as I own an ADAM mod and an AMR. I cannot attest to this atty because I don't have it. I can however guarantee that the quality of this product will be top notch.

If you want any of these products visit: Team Rampage Vapor

EDIT: Let me rephrase the first sentence better. Team Rampage is the home of these products. If you want manufacturer customer service and treatment it would be through Team Rampage. They are the source of these products. Don't go searching for Yellow Kiss mods.

 

[Turbo]

Both the Bagua and the Arrow are made by Team Rampage. Your correct about them being Korean. Same makers of the ADAM, AMR, and APS.


They have great quality products as I own an ADAM mod and an AMR. I cannot attest to this atty because I don't have it. I can however guarantee that the quality of this product will be top notch.

If you want any of these products visit: Team Rampage Vapor

EDIT: Let me rephrase the first sentence better. Team Rampage is the home of these products. If you want manufacturer customer service and treatment it would be through Team Rampage. They are the source of these products. Don't go searching for Yellow Kiss mods.

Yes, 'Yellow kiss' teamed up w/ Team Rampage and Eonvapes also sells them, which is where I got mine.

 

[GuataLOOP]

Well if your looking for a 17 mm atty to fit nicely on a 17 or 16 mm mod then your definitely going to be happy with it. Or if your just going for the leak-proof design aspect and don't mind the different in size from mod to atty, either way it's going to be quality.

Everything Team Rampage sells is extremely affordable compared to other top tier vendors/makers. I can personally vouch for their customer service being exceptional. And you can buy it direct and not have to sit on a 6 month waiting list or buy a used product from someone random usually gouging you.

 

[NayrTrawe]

I actually ordered one of these last night and elected for the faster shipping option so I am hoping it gets here by the end of the week. I am going to use it on my Nemesis as I don't mind the difference in diameter - no real interest in a smaller mod, to be honest. My main interest is getting an atty with a dual coil option that has the air holes to support it, and this one seems to fit the bill. Plus, I was really intrigued by the leak-proof design - quite innovative, I must say. I am excited to get it setup, although it will be my first try at dual coils so it might be a slight challenge.

 

[Turbo]

I actually ordered one of these last night and elected for the faster shipping option so I am hoping it gets here by the end of the week. I am going to use it on my Nemesis as I don't mind the difference in diameter - no real interest in a smaller mod, to be honest. My main interest is getting an atty with a dual coil option that has the air holes to support it, and this one seems to fit the bill. Plus, I was really intrigued by the leak-proof design - quite innovative, I must say. I am excited to get it setup, although it will be my first try at dual coils so it might be a slight challenge.

Very nice, you'll get yours first so report back here! Someone posted a pic on another forum w/ the Arrow/Nemesis. They had the 17mm ring and it looked sharp.

 

[NayrTrawe]

I was thinking about getting the smaller air control ring, but I think I will hold off until I have more stuff to order from Atmomixani, like the Dome and the brass edition of the Nemesis (can't wait for those!).

My only concern about this little guy is that there is not much working space on the deck, especially with that lip. I watched a video of someone setting his up with a single coil and it didn't look too bad but I'm sure he had plenty of practice with it. I am thinking about coiling the mesh and then installing it to make it a bit easier - gotta get my hands on it first, though!

 

[Turbo]

I was thinking about getting the smaller air control ring, but I think I will hold off until I have more stuff to order from Atmomixani, like the Dome and the brass edition of the Nemesis (can't wait for those!).

My only concern about this little guy is that there is not much working space on the deck, especially with that lip. I watched a video of someone setting his up with a single coil and it didn't look too bad but I'm sure he had plenty of practice with it. I am thinking about coiling the mesh and then installing it to make it a bit easier - gotta get my hands on it first, though!

Yeah, the tight space/lip will be trickiest w/ the neg. connection. Making a loop before screwing it down should make it easier. Your way sounds just as viable too.

 

[NayrTrawe]

According to the tracking information mine arrived in Chicago last night from Korea. I am hoping it will show up today but I have a feeling it won't be here until tomorrow or Monday. I am not going to be home those days so I have my fingers crossed that a signature won't be required. Can't wait to try it out!

 

[Turbo]

According to the tracking information mine arrived in Chicago last night from Korea. I am hoping it will show up today but I have a feeling it won't be here until tomorrow or Monday. I am not going to be home those days so I have my fingers crossed that a signature won't be required. Can't wait to try it out!

That was quick! I preordered mine from Eonvapes in Canada, but probably won't get it for a few more weeks as I'm waiting on the Ba Gua mod and told them to send them together.

Do report back!

 

[Gummy Bare]

it looked pretty cool, i almost picked one up the other week but backed out at the last min since I didn't have a 17mm mod for it anyway.

 

[Turbo]

it looked pretty cool, i almost picked one up the other week but backed out at the last min since I didn't have a 17mm mod for it anyway.

I hear a larger one is around the corner, I think 22mm? I wanted the small one as it'll be nice for out/about, and 2.5ml is great for an evening plus some.

 

[NayrTrawe]

I got mine today and.....I kind of hate it. I have tried setting it up in a number of different ways and none have been successful. This is what I have tried:

1. Dual 6/7 wraps of 30 gauge kanthal - .6 ohms

Despite the number of wraps each coil metered out to 1.2 ohms because the wick hole is on the small side. I kept on getting invisible shorts (metallic taste but no obvious issues with the coils) and the vapor/flavor weren't great. I tried this setup twice and popped a coil the second time so I gave up.

2. Dual 8/9 wrap of 28 gauge kanthal - .5 ohms

I just couldn't get all of those coils to glow evenly and it was nearly impossible to secure wire this thick under the positive screw (more on this later) so I gave up on it kind of quick

3. Single 5/6 wrap of 28 gauge kanthal - 1.1 ohms

Really poor vapor and flavor - gave up on this one kind of quick, as well, because the performance was lacking

4. Dual 5/6 wrap of 32 gauge kanthal - could never get a reading

I tried this one twice but I popped coils both times really quick despite my battery being low

I really hate how you trap the wires on the positive post. It makes it really hard to get both wires secured because the washer floats up and down without much force. It just feels like the wires are never really secured in place because the slightest pressure on either wick will pull them right out. You can tighten the screw down but that leaves you with even less space to wrap your coils so it kind of defeats the purpose since you need so many wraps to get your resistance up. Beyond that, trapping two thicker wires (like 28 gauge) is nearly impossible because the first wire you secure opens the gap between the screw and washer so much that the 2nd wire has no where to go.

When I have gotten it working for a bit I found the vapor production to be really poor. Honestly, I get better results with a 3/4 wrap of 28 gauge kanthal on my Zens. I am going to put it away for the night and give it another go tomorrow but so far I am really disappointed given how much I paid for this thing.

Update - I just had to try it one more time before I went to bed and still no success. Went with a 6/7 wrap of 30 gauge kanthal and the first one went perfectly fine. The problem is that it is damn near impossible to secure the 2nd coil properly on the positive post. Since the screw and washer do not hold the wires well you have to wrap each coil around the post at least a little bit - when it comes time to wrap the 2nd one around there isn't enough room and the two wires are competing with one another for space. I was able to sort of jam both under the screw but I was getting all manner of shorts and arcs. I think it would work if there was a 2nd washer there - basically, one for each wire so they can make clean contact with the post.

Maybe I am just terrible at setting this thing up - I would love to see a video of someone putting it together successfully.

 

[Gummy Bare]

Damn, that sounds frustrating man.

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[NayrTrawe]

Damn, that sounds frustrating man.

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You have no idea - I have never been this frustrated by anything vaping related. Sure, I have had my difficulties here and there with RBAs, but nothing like this.

 

[Turbo]

Well that is not the review I was hoping for...lol

But... I know you're not new to Gennies, but I have had similar luck w/ other RBA's at first. Even my trusty Orion gave me fits last time I had to recoil and I usually can nail that on the first go. It also has a wrap/trap positive post. You can trap between the washers or the nut/washer. Being the Arrow is so tiny I'm sure it'll be a challenge. You can also replace the wrap/trap w/ nuts.

 

[NayrTrawe]

Well that is not the review I was hoping for...lol

But... I know you're not new to Gennies, but I have had similar luck w/ other RBA's at first. Even my trusty Orion gave me fits last time I had to recoil and I usually can nail that on the first go. It also has a wrap/trap positive post. You can trap between the washers or the nut/washer. Being the Arrow is so tiny I'm sure it'll be a challenge. You can also replace the wrap/trap w/ nuts.

I might have to do that - honestly, I was so mad last night that it didn't even occur to me.

It really isn't that hard to wrap the coils after you have tried it a couple times, though it makes larger atomizers seem extremely easily by comparison. The only real problem is the wrap/trap design of the positive post. I will have to hit the hardware store sometime next week to see if I can remedy this with some replacement parts.

 

[Turbo]

I would love to see a video of someone putting it together successfully.

Ask and you shall receive. ATM, there's not many videos for the Arrow. This video is kinda long and drawn out, but he gets it going. He also has other vids on the Arrow, so check out his page.

 

[NayrTrawe]

Ask and you shall receive. ATM, there's not many videos for the Arrow. This video is kinda long and drawn out, but he gets it going. He also has other vids on the Arrow, so check out his page.

I saw that one but he is only setting up a single coil which is easy enough - although, you should watch the part where he traps the wire and you can see he was having trouble securing just one wire. I am having trouble getting two coils trapped under that screw/washer - and believe me, I have tried (and tried, and tried...).

 

[Turbo]

Ahh, yeah, two would be tricky but I know 'Hill Giant' and others have. In the video he's using ribbon wire, so that is why he had a little trouble at first.