Asking for cartomizer help with v4l dial-a-volt

[billythemountain]

Hi everyone. I've gotten great tips and advise from here so far so I'm coming back for more. I use a V4L dial a volt and it's doing me great, no complaints. But I'm trying to find the right balance for the cartomizer. I know there's lots of topics on this forum that address cartomizers, but I can't find any that talk about my particular device.


For example, I see a lot of people here saying they pour their liquid right into the cartomizer, but I was told at the V4L store that I should 'suck' it into it from the tank to 'prime' it. Which is fine, but I don't see anyone else saying they do that and I'm assuming it's because they have a different type of device...

My main concern is I'm vaping reduced PG solutions from EC blends (which are great for me) and I'm looking for the proper cartomizer and voltage strength to do me right. I have a dual coil in there right now and I'm going to order a single....but I was hoping for some guidance...

 

[billythemountain]

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[Baditude]

Hi, Billy.

I think trying a single coil cartomizer is a good step in the right direction. Just from my personal experience, I prefer single coil carts over dual coils by far. I found the dual coils frequently gave me a burnt taste after a while of use, which I suspect is due to their very design. My theory is because the second heating coil is located mid-way up the cartomizer, that the sucking action while vaping allows that part of polyfill to be less wet with juice, allowing it to burn from the heat of that top coil. Since switching to single coil carts, I very rarely have experienced the burnt taste, and I am getting far better battery life with the single coils.

There probably is no "one" or "best" way to fill a cartomizer. As long as you can get the cartomizer as full as possible without flooding it you will get good results. Some people prefer the condom method of filling a cart, others prefer dripping into the top, and others actually inject the filler with a needle.

My preference is to fill from the top after first inserting part of a wood toothpick into the center air hole. How To Refill Blu or Luci Electronic Cigarette Cartridge - YouTube I saturate the filler, then shake the carto as if it was a thermometer. (Others place the carto in a bag device and string, and then whirl it around). These actions duplicate the result of a centrifuge, forcing juice into the bottom of the cartomizer where the heating coil is located. I continue to add more juice and shake it down until it will no longer take any more e-liquid. Using this method does not require the cartomizer to "sit" before vaping it.

It sounds like you are using a variable voltage PV, so you will want to use a 2.5 ohm or 3.0 ohm carto for the widest range of voltages allowed by your device. Many vapors use the Safe Vaping Power Chart as a general guideline for choosing the best resistance for the voltages that they use.

http://www.ecigadvanced.com/community/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/power.jpg

 

[kaddigart]

I have a D-a-V XL that I like to use Smok Tech's Ego Dual Coil Cartomizer (1.7 ohm) with. Sorry V4L, I got this one at Vaperite because there's a local store nearby, I bought it on a whim. I leave my voltage set to 3.2 all the time and generally it will last all day. Also, I've been using the same one for well over a month now with no funky taste to speak of, other than the Smörgåsbord of flavors I've run through it (cherry, watermelon, a couple of ECBlend mixtures, grape, pomegranate, dragon fruit). Fruit cocktail anyone?

Alternatively I use dual coil 2.5 ohm XL carts (usually dialed to 3.8v), but they don't last as long by a long shot. They're good for those flavors I like to keep pure though.

I also use a reduced PG blend mostly, usually 50/50 or 60/40 PG/VG.

With either combination I get what feels like a real drag from a cigarette. As a reformed smoker (26 years, pack/day) this is very important to me.

For filling both types I simply drip directly from the bottle the liquid comes in to the carts. If you run the drops down the side slowly you won't flood them, just make sure not to under-fill them either as this (and running them dry) is what causes that nasty burnt taste and ends the life of the cart. I let the liquid seep into the filler and repeat until it pools on the top then blow through the connector end once to ensure none is in the air tube.

 

[billythemountain]

Excellent advise, thank you so much. The video made a lot of sense

Hi, Billy.

I think trying a single coil cartomizer is a good step in the right direction. Just from my personal experience, I prefer single coil carts over dual coils by far. I found the dual coils frequently gave me a burnt taste after a while of use, which I suspect is due to their very design. My theory is because the second heating coil is located mid-way up the cartomizer, that the sucking action while vaping allows that part of polyfill to be less wet with juice, allowing it to burn from the heat of that top coil. Since switching to single coil carts, I very rarely have experienced the burnt taste, and I am getting far better battery life with the single coils.

There probably is no "one" or "best" way to fill a cartomizer. As long as you can get the cartomizer as full as possible without flooding it you will get good results. Some people prefer the condom method of filling a cart, others prefer dripping into the top, and others actually inject the filler with a needle.

My preference is to fill from the top after first inserting part of a wood toothpick into the center air hole. How To Refill Blu or Luci Electronic Cigarette Cartridge - YouTube I saturate the filler, then shake the carto as if it was a thermometer. (Others place the carto in a bag device and string, and then whirl it around). These actions duplicate the result of a centrifuge, forcing juice into the bottom of the cartomizer where the heating coil is located. I continue to add more juice and shake it down until it will no longer take any more e-liquid. Using this method does not require the cartomizer to "sit" before vaping it.

It sounds like you are using a variable voltage PV, so you will want to use a 2.5 ohm or 3.0 ohm carto for the widest range of voltages allowed by your device. Many vapors use the Safe Vaping Power Chart as a general guideline for choosing the best resistance for the voltages that they use.

http://www.ecigadvanced.com/community/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/power.jpg

 

[billythemountain]

Thank you for your input as well. Yeah v4l introduced me to the vape world, but I've definitely found other products that are better and cheaper. This is invaluable to me, thanks for the tips!

I have a D-a-V XL that I like to use Smok Tech's Ego Dual Coil Cartomizer (1.7 ohm) with. Sorry V4L, I got this one at Vaperite because there's a local store nearby, I bought it on a whim. I leave my voltage set to 3.2 all the time and generally it will last all day. Also, I've been using the same one for well over a month now with no funky taste to speak of, other than the Smörgåsbord of flavors I've run through it (cherry, watermelon, a couple of ECBlend mixtures, grape, pomegranate, dragon fruit). Fruit cocktail anyone?

Alternatively I use dual coil 2.5 ohm XL carts (usually dialed to 3.8v), but they don't last as long by a long shot. They're good for those flavors I like to keep pure though.

I also use a reduced PG blend mostly, usually 50/50 or 60/40 PG/VG.

With either combination I get what feels like a real drag from a cigarette. As a reformed smoker (26 years, pack/day) this is very important to me.

For filling both types I simply drip directly from the bottle the liquid comes in to the carts. If you run the drops down the side slowly you won't flood them, just make sure not to under-fill them either as this (and running them dry) is what causes that nasty burnt taste and ends the life of the cart. I let the liquid seep into the filler and repeat until it pools on the top then blow through the connector end once to ensure none is in the air tube.

 

[billythemountain]

I've re-read your response a few times and yes, that's exactly what I needed to know. Thanks so much again

Hi, Billy.

I think trying a single coil cartomizer is a good step in the right direction. Just from my personal experience, I prefer single coil carts over dual coils by far. I found the dual coils frequently gave me a burnt taste after a while of use, which I suspect is due to their very design. My theory is because the second heating coil is located mid-way up the cartomizer, that the sucking action while vaping allows that part of polyfill to be less wet with juice, allowing it to burn from the heat of that top coil. Since switching to single coil carts, I very rarely have experienced the burnt taste, and I am getting far better battery life with the single coils.

There probably is no "one" or "best" way to fill a cartomizer. As long as you can get the cartomizer as full as possible without flooding it you will get good results. Some people prefer the condom method of filling a cart, others prefer dripping into the top, and others actually inject the filler with a needle.

My preference is to fill from the top after first inserting part of a wood toothpick into the center air hole. How To Refill Blu or Luci Electronic Cigarette Cartridge - YouTube I saturate the filler, then shake the carto as if it was a thermometer. (Others place the carto in a bag device and string, and then whirl it around). These actions duplicate the result of a centrifuge, forcing juice into the bottom of the cartomizer where the heating coil is located. I continue to add more juice and shake it down until it will no longer take any more e-liquid. Using this method does not require the cartomizer to "sit" before vaping it.

It sounds like you are using a variable voltage PV, so you will want to use a 2.5 ohm or 3.0 ohm carto for the widest range of voltages allowed by your device. Many vapors use the Safe Vaping Power Chart as a general guideline for choosing the best resistance for the voltages that they use.

http://www.ecigadvanced.com/community/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/power.jpg