Aspire BDC - First 2 Days Review

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Well, for my experience, I did all the tips and tricks, I've been vaping for 4+ years. I purposely didn't follow the one tip of dripping a few drops of juice down into the head for the 1st 5 heads because I didn't want to risk juice splattering up in my mouth even moreso, or flooding. I did do it on the 6th one though, and no improvement to the flavor. I also let my tank sit an wick anywhere from 30 minutes to overnight before taking the first puff. And my device is an eGo Twst, with air slots. I also tried tightening up the air flow to see if more flavor would come through, but it didn't. Tons of vapor, just so many predominantly mechanical or extremely weird tastes on each juice. It has been a tank that has completely transformed flavors like "caramel" into "sea salt" and "rum" into "fish oil". It'd make me sick to my stomach, that's how overwhelming it was. I'm using good, trusted, store-tested juices too.

I also purposely didn't pre-rinse my tank with anything other than distilled water (and I only did that after the first test) because I have safety concerns about vaping alcohol or other cleaners. But reviewers like Smokey and others have filled this thing up on-the-go, straight out of the package like I did, didn't even wait at all for it to wick, and got amazing results out of it. It could be that I'm sensitive to the taste, it could be that I got a bad batch of heads, I'm just not totally sure at all.

This thing hasn't leaked one tiny drop of juice onto my battery, and has caused me no connecting issues whatsoever (both less than a Protank), so the build quality of juice not leaking seems to be good on my model. Just, the taste is bizarre and quite horrible.
 
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Bizarre is the right word! :blink:

I appreciate you filling us in more on your story, GN!

You are making this sound like my first cig-alike.....and some of those were pretty icky. or, spoiled liquid, but it's not consistently bad tasting with other gear. :blink:

A good old Vodka soak is all I can come up with. There's some tricks to handle plastic taste, too.....but that doesn't sound right for this problem. I know I'd pull out my old bottle of Purge Atty cleaner that worked well in the past.....but I don't know what vapable liquid it's made from to advise you. Or, just deal with the Protank, if you liked it somewhat. New versions are coming out again for it soon, I hear.
 
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I've used carto tanks for some time being the only setup I could get the vape/flavor I desire but carto reliability/longevity is hit and miss so I'm always on the hunt for something as that will give me the vape I want and be reliable.
I've tried several different bottom coil units and derived little pleasure and a lot of issues from them but I believe the Aspire BDC has fulfilled my wants.
I got the larger Vivi Nova style (glass tank/metal cover/ $11.95) from Vivid Vaper. Also got 5 extra coil heads (1.8 a& 2.1 Ohm)- sold individually at $2.50 ea. or $2.10 ea. if you purchase 5 or more.
Everything good I have read about the BDC has been factual. Nice tight draw with plenty of vapor and, most importantly, outstanding flavor that I prefer, from my juices. Perhaps the glass tank is part of the good flavors so I'm going to get one of the plastic units to try/compare.
One very minor complaint that's actually a minor annoyance with the device, I get a slight gurgle when the juice gets down to the top of the coil but get no leakage or juice in mouth.
I don't care for the metal covering on the tank and it's small, hard to see the juice level, window but I was aware of that going in.
Added drops of juice to the head before installing it in the device, filled the tank, started enjoying the vape.
 

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Couldn't agree more Bill. A lot of people like trying devices when they first come out and there's nothing wrong with that! I wait a while. It's amazing how opinion about products can change after they're in use a month or two and many people really get to know them. So many variables involved, equipment, juice, vaping style and more. This one has potential :thumb:

Never, ever buy Version 1 of anything. There is always something wrong with them. Those devices don't really undergo any serious beta testing--we are the beta testers for them. I start buying at V2 or higher. ;)

That said, I have the glass Aspire (eGo threaded) and it works very well--for a dual coil atomizer. I generally dislike dual coils, but this one is nicer, maybe because it's a bottom dual coil as opposed to all the others, which have one coil on the bottom, the other on top.
 

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It's been a week now with my glass Aspire, with only one juice used though: HHV Legend. I still like it, vapor, throat hit, and draw are excellent, but I like the way Legend tastes in the Vision Nano better. Actually, nothing has topped the cheap little Nano for me as far as flavor and overall vaping. The Protank II is a clean and smooth vape, but I agree with others that it is a bit too airy. I'm getting used to that though.

I ordered more heads for the Aspire so soon I'll try different flavors. We'll see. I'm finding that dual coils do something weird to flavors. Same thing happened with the iClear16. I think I prefer single coil devices.

The main reason people find that their favorite flavors taste different with DCCs is the drop of wattage. A 1.8Ω dual coil is actually two 3.6Ω coils running in parallel. So, even though the combined resistance of the atomizer reads 1.8Ω, you are dealing with two 3.6Ω coils so the wattage should be calculated accordingly. If you put a 1.8Ω coil on 3.7v, you'll get 7.6W of power--very high, indeed, for a stock atty. A 3.6Ω coil on 3.7v will get you a paltry 3.8 watts--that's pretty much in the unvapeable territory... The taste will be very different. However, a dual coil will produce more vapor because with two coils you have twice the surface area to vaporize the e liquid.

So, you really should use dual coils at much higher voltages than single coils require, but there is a catch. If your PV can't supply the amps required, and you can't change the resistance, of course--your voltage will drop... :facepalm: The Ohm's Law can't be defied.
 

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The main reason people find that their favorite flavors taste different with DCCs is the drop of wattage. A 1.8Ω dual coil is actually two 3.6Ω coils running in parallel. So, even though the combined resistance of the atomizer reads 1.8Ω, you are dealing with two 3.6Ω coils so the wattage should be calculated accordingly. If you put a 1.8Ω coil on 3.7v, you'll get 7.6W of power--very high, indeed, for a stock atty. A 3.6Ω coil on 3.7v will get you a paltry 3.8 watts--that's pretty much in the unvapeable territory... The taste will be very different. However, a dual coil will produce more vapor because with two coils you have twice the surface area to vaporize the e liquid.

So, you really should use dual coils at much higher voltages than single coils require, but there is a catch. If your PV can't supply the amps required, and you can't change the resistance, of course--your voltage will drop... :facepalm: The Ohm's Law can't be defied.

Excellent points. I use DCC's quite a bit. But you better have a device that can handle them. I wouldn't use a dual coil on a model that doesn't have a 3.5 amp switch regulator or higher, preferably a 5 amp switch. I doubt they will preform up to standard on say a twist or spinner because of the weaker 2.5 amp switch.
 

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Excellent points. I use DCC's quite a bit. But you better have a device that can handle them. I wouldn't use a dual coil on a model that doesn't have a 3.5 amp switch regulator or higher, preferably a 5 amp switch. I doubt they will preform up to standard on say a twist or spinner because of the weaker 2.5 amp switch.

I'm a low (moderate) wattage vaper, so I can use the Aspire on my vv eGo-class batteries at ~4.2-4.4volts (roughly 5-5.4 watts), which is way below their (2.5?A) (3A?) limit and they work great. I feel that the increased vapor production makes up for the lower wattage. But I agree that those who prefer higher wattage should use dual coils on more powerful APVs.
 
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I'm a low (moderate) wattage vaper, so I can use the Aspire on my vv eGo-class batteries at ~4.2-4.4volts (roughly 5-5.4 watts), which is way below their 2A limit and they work great. I feel that the increased vapor production makes up for the lower wattage. But I agree that those who prefer higher wattage should use dual coils on more powerful APVs.

If I have read one, I have read 100 posts from some newb wondering why their 1.5 ohm DCC doesn't work well on their eGo or twist. I set my APV between 11.5 - 12.5 watts without an issue. The Aspire being 1.8 ohm will help some over a 1.5 ohm DCC.
 

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OK, I checked, The Amp limit on Joyetech eGo-C Twist batteries is 3 Amps--which means we can use 1.5Ω (up to 4.4v) and 1.8Ω (up to 4.8v) dual-coil atomizers without any problems.

Please do not try using single coil 1.5 and 1.8Ω atties at those voltages--they will burn!!!!
 
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My new bdc is great. But something weird... I notice dark burnt looking juice coming out of the holes in the head while the tank is filled. Tastes fine, but doesn't look right. Anyone else see this?

Happens with all atomizers--the darker and sweeter the juice, the faster is happens. Just clean your coils frequently. I soak mine in PGA for a couple of hours. Or do a "wet burn"--vape a tankful of unflavored (or just plain PG or PG/VG mix) until the juice in the tank runs clear again. You may have to do it twice if your coil is really dirty. Increasing the voltage a bit while you do that helps to burn off the gunk off the coil. PG is a great solvent. :)
 

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Just got mine tonight. It's the mini nova version and I'm loving it already. It works great on my spinner and ego-t but I can't seem to get it to work on the iTaste vv v3. Anyone else have a similar issue?

I have been having similar issues with my iTaste, as well as 2 of my ego-c Twists. It worked well on the first ego-c with no problems. However, when I put on the second ego-c, it wouldn't fire. On the iTaste it wouldn't register the ohms of the coil, which is when I realized it was probably a connection issue. I pulled the post out a little (following the instructions of pbusardo), which then gave me the connection. However, this only worked for about 5 minutes before the post (which is really really loose to begin with), pushed back to its normal position and wouldn't allow the connection anymore.

I have a spare package of coils, which I'm going to try swapping out one of them, and see if it could have possibly been just a bad coil.
 
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