Darn, I thought this was an announcement for something new! LOL!
Don't count on that from Provari unless it's a new color
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Don't count on that from Provari unless it's a new color
Actually, Green LED's this Friday. I may pickup a mini in black satin.
That sound an awful lot like - There's two types of people in this world those that have a provari and those that wish they did.
I think this thread has proven that to be completely untrue. As for some provari owners feeling they are superior, ^^^ I think you just proved their point in spades.
My friend has one and I didn't care for it, yes it's built solid, but the menu has got to have the most annoying menu of any VV out there. Click 5, 7, 9, 12, Jesus I just want to turn the damn thing off. Quite happy with my chrome LT. Will get the v2 when Volcano comes out with the chrome for v2. Wife upgraded to the 2 cause her original LT was finally dying. But the v2 is miles above what 1 was. And if the chrome is as big a jump in durability from what it was from the v1 to the chrome, it will about be on par with the Povari imo, and 1/2 the cost.
Just cause the majority says it's the best, doesn't mean it's a must have.
Just cause the majority says it's the best, doesn't mean it's a must have.
hehehe,,not at all,,i just had an extra bag of troll food laying around that i needed to get rid of
This is nothing compared to the 510 vs. KR808D-1 threads we had back in the day.
Or even the blue foam vs. pyramid tea bag threads.
I Have some blue foam for sale if anyone still needs it....lol and a couple 510s too.....
Really wasn't that long ago this was going on. You people make it sound like blue foam was big in the 70's..
Now this is just my view on this, I agree with the OP. I think the key here is helping people to start their vaping journey. If they only have 50 bux then that is what they have, period. I would love an expensive car but I drive a 1996 Honda because that is all I can afford.
I have been vaping for a while now and I have enjoyed ECF and because of ECF have been able to play with many different things. This was my progression. Blu, eGo, bigger eGo, even bigger eGo, a Bolt, an oldgoat then I got sucked into wanting to try a VV, so I decided to get a LavaTube (could not afford a Provari) because everyone said oh it will save you money in the long run. I really loved the VV but here comes what I did not understand about the ease of use and saving money...so now I had to carry the device and about 4 batteries with me all the time, then the batteries started going bad. Everyone keeps saying it will cost you less in the long run in replacing eGo batteries...will now I have to replace batteries anyways. So, LT battery starts dying and I now have to unscrew the bottom and hope like heck I do not drop and lose the screw cap, dig the batteries out of my purse or console (making sure I pick up the charged battery not the other dead battery because I have to have enough precharged ones since I can not charge them in the car like my eGos) put the battery in the LT and rescrew the bottom cap, all while not trying to loose all the parts. Then the VV eGo came out and I sold all my other stuff and use VV eGo...if it dies then I grab another and srew the carto on and done.
This is what works for me. If I had the money I would not buy the bigger mods for me just too much fuss. For me it comes down to wanting to push the button, have the hit and warmth I want, and vapor. Yep, I'll will eventually have to replace my battery but so will you.
If you are happy with your setup that is all that matters....of course I love my WalMart shirts too because they fit good.
Wishing everyone happy vaping.
I have been vaping for a while now and I have enjoyed ECF and because of ECF have been able to play with many different things. This was my progression. Blu, eGo, bigger eGo, even bigger eGo, a Bolt, an oldgoat then I got sucked into wanting to try a VV, so I decided to get a LavaTube (could not afford a Provari) because everyone said oh it will save you money in the long run. I really loved the VV but here comes what I did not understand about the ease of use and saving money...so now I had to carry the device and about 4 batteries with me all the time, then the batteries started going bad. Everyone keeps saying it will cost you less in the long run in replacing eGo batteries...will now I have to replace batteries anyways. So, LT battery starts dying and I now have to unscrew the bottom and hope like heck I do not drop and lose the screw cap, dig the batteries out of my purse or console (making sure I pick up the charged battery not the other dead battery because I have to have enough precharged ones since I can not charge them in the car like my eGos) put the battery in the LT and rescrew the bottom cap, all while not trying to loose all the parts. Then the VV eGo came out and I sold all my other stuff and use VV eGo...if it dies then I grab another and srew the carto on and done.
This is what works for me. If I had the money I would not buy the bigger mods for me just too much fuss. For me it comes down to wanting to push the button, have the hit and warmth I want, and vapor. Yep, I'll will eventually have to replace my battery but so will you.
If you are happy with your setup that is all that matters....of course I love my WalMart shirts too because they fit good.
Wishing everyone happy vaping.
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Actually, that is not what you said.
Newbie posted he wanted to start vaping, and his budget was $50 MAX. (He stressed that point).
I was trying to help in that topic, so I have posts there.
and you told him:
That put him $110 over his budget.
I think Provaris are great. I'm not a Provari basher at all.
There's plenty of other stuff too......but I think we can ALL remember how confusing it was, being a newbie, and having no idea how to get started.
So I think in newbie topics it's really important to get the person vaping, and off analogs right away, get them THEIR best fit so they can place an order. Ask a few questions and then steer them where they will be best served.
Otherwise, it just confuses them and it's more stuff they have to read that jumbles up in their brain.
Actually, that is not what you said.
Newbie posted he wanted to start vaping, and his budget was $50 MAX. (He stressed that point).
I was trying to help in that topic, so I have posts there.
and you told him:
That put him $110 over his budget.
I think Provaris are great. I'm not a Provari basher at all.
There's plenty of other stuff too......but I think we can ALL remember how confusing it was, being a newbie, and having no idea how to get started.
So I think in newbie topics it's really important to get the person vaping, and off analogs right away, get them THEIR best fit so they can place an order. Ask a few questions and then steer them where they will be best served.
Otherwise, it just confuses them and it's more stuff they have to read that jumbles up in their brain.
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and then all the haters gotta jump into the mix with their lack of knowledge about the provari ,,it still does not cost 200 bucks
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Provape has responded to a few e-mails saying they are in the process of developing new tank systems and they may begin development on new software in the next 2 years.
I didn't read it that way at all. And I'm not a lover or a hater. I jsut read the topic and all he said was don;t just spam every topic with Provari IF it's not appropriate answer or the topic isn't about that. '
I didn't see anything whatsoever *hateful* about what he wrote?
If a newbie states, unequivocably, that their budget is $50 max, don't suggest a Provari. Simple.
Nobody is trying to control anyone. The OP merely said what i said. i.e. try to be helpful and appropriate.
So, you think it's *appropriate* to recommend a Provari to someone who states clearly that their budget is $50?
next time you go to the doctor, after working all day, for a little Fall allergy relief, and he tells you "oh, move to Arizona tomorrow", and you live and work in NY have a family and a job and mortgage there, do you think he's really *helped* you?
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Personally I would rather have a ZMax with VW than a Provari that just has VV and I paid less than half of what a Provari costs.
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It isnt just Provari fans that are guilty of not listening to a newbs budget and/or vaping needs. Ive seen dozens of threads here with people recommending a setup for someone that likely wont work for them because the person making the recommendation has transferred their needs and preference over the original posters.
You guys have all seen it too....someone recommends a dirt cheap setup with a low MaH to someone who smoked 2 packs a day, or tries to sell them a lavatube when they express they are looking for quality and that moneys not an object.
The key here is asking questions like:
How many cigarettes a day did you smoke? Dont ask if they were a light or heavy smoker because thats subjective...to me a heavy smoker is 2 packs a day while to you it could anyone who smokes a pack or more.
Ask what brand they smoked and what are some of their favorite drink and candy flavors in case they arent interested in tobacco or menthol flavors.
Ask what kind of form factor they were thinking of and then explain the pros and cons to each one.
The more answers you have the easier it should be to narrow down the choice and to give them exactly what they want and need.
Maybe somene more talented than me could come up with a comprehensive quiz or questionaire that could be stickied here or added to a website that would save us all some time and help us provide better answers? Im sure their are plenty of people who would be willing to help anyone who wants to take this on and its a win win for everyone involved.
You guys have all seen it too....someone recommends a dirt cheap setup with a low MaH to someone who smoked 2 packs a day, or tries to sell them a lavatube when they express they are looking for quality and that moneys not an object.
The key here is asking questions like:
How many cigarettes a day did you smoke? Dont ask if they were a light or heavy smoker because thats subjective...to me a heavy smoker is 2 packs a day while to you it could anyone who smokes a pack or more.
Ask what brand they smoked and what are some of their favorite drink and candy flavors in case they arent interested in tobacco or menthol flavors.
Ask what kind of form factor they were thinking of and then explain the pros and cons to each one.
The more answers you have the easier it should be to narrow down the choice and to give them exactly what they want and need.
Maybe somene more talented than me could come up with a comprehensive quiz or questionaire that could be stickied here or added to a website that would save us all some time and help us provide better answers? Im sure their are plenty of people who would be willing to help anyone who wants to take this on and its a win win for everyone involved.
Have you ever been told that VW was just a fad and it was the same as VV?
It was by someone pushing a Provari. (IWBSPP)
Have you ever been told that you are wasting your money on that "Chinese crap"?
IWBSPP
Have you been told that your device will break if you drop it?
IWBSPP
Have you been told that you liking the device you are using was because you are a Provari Hater?
IWBSPP
There are tons of things on the market right now. I was told that my Zmax would fail and all sorts of things. But the fact is it hasn't even been on the market long enough to say. The Darwin does VW and with them selling out I assume there's lots of other people that like setting the VW and not doing the math. I started with VW and yes I'm spoiled. I have read the history on this forum and have a friend that's been doing this since 2009. I know that I got in when the Vaping world is getting good.
Why is it that people assume that there will never be a VW Provari. I've seen lots of people post that they'd buy one if they did. I don't have a problem with the Provari or the cost of it. I don't have a problem with the owners in general.
Just the Jack-heads that post stupid and you can't fix stupid.
It was by someone pushing a Provari. (IWBSPP)
Have you ever been told that you are wasting your money on that "Chinese crap"?
IWBSPP
Have you been told that your device will break if you drop it?
IWBSPP
Have you been told that you liking the device you are using was because you are a Provari Hater?
IWBSPP
There are tons of things on the market right now. I was told that my Zmax would fail and all sorts of things. But the fact is it hasn't even been on the market long enough to say. The Darwin does VW and with them selling out I assume there's lots of other people that like setting the VW and not doing the math. I started with VW and yes I'm spoiled. I have read the history on this forum and have a friend that's been doing this since 2009. I know that I got in when the Vaping world is getting good.
Why is it that people assume that there will never be a VW Provari. I've seen lots of people post that they'd buy one if they did. I don't have a problem with the Provari or the cost of it. I don't have a problem with the owners in general.
Just the Jack-heads that post stupid and you can't fix stupid.
Personally I would rather have a ZMax with VW than a Provari that just has VV and I paid less than half of what a Provari costs.
Let's see what happens 6 months from now when it breaks down.
If a newbie states UNEQUIVOCABLY that he/she WILL NOT even CONSIDER saving for a more expensive mod, then the word Provari should never come up in the posts below OP's post in a suggestion form. You can tell the OP that you own a provari but, that won't be helping the OP and it will be considered off topic.
But if the OP says something more to the tune of "I'm looking for an e-cig. I'd like to spend around $50 if that will give me a quality vape. I want something quality. something with a warranty. something worth my money. I would like one that looks like a cigarette."
I'm going to let him know that the cig-alikes have bad battery life and it is not advised to use lower resistance heads on them. Im going to tell him that if he must have a cig-alike, the Volt, and the Bloog Max Fusion are of the best in quality, but, I'll tell him/her that many of us that have been vaping for a long time would recommend looking into a larger battery mod and explain why... I might suggest he buy 1 510 battery for a 2nd choice, for out of the home, then I'm going to suggest an eGo kit for his main PV. Why? because hes looking for a smaller mod as close to a cigarette's size as possible, but he/she is not willing to sacrifice a GOOD vape, good battery, good quality. he doesn't want it to break. maybe I'd suggest a nice eGo, like a genuine joye, because he's looking for a quality mod. I would suggest a twist, because hes looking for a quality vape.
OP, or anyone else for that matter, are you against a Provari owner popping in to this thread, and giving a similar answer to the one above, but also including the following: "I personally own an eGo, but only one eGo battery. You will want an ego kit, with 2 batteries, because it will be your main vaporizer. I prefer bigger battery mods for their battery life. I personally own a silver bullet and a provari mini. if you are looking for a high quality mod with a good warranty, the silver bullet it a great option. it isn't anywhere the size of a cigarette but if you can get past this, the battery life far outweighs the life of a smaller cig alike (which will only last 2-3 hours) and an eGo (which is the size of a sharpie, with OK battery life) the silver bullet, with an 18650 battery, can last as long as 15 hours with regular use. Or, alternatively, if you'd like a variable voltage mod with the battery life of the bigger batteries, you could try the provari. the provari has great battery life and the benefit of allowing you to adjust the voltage to suit the particular cartomizer or atomizer you've purchases, & how powerful you'd like the hit to feel. Both of these bigger battery mods are of quality build and you may be interested in taking these into consideration as well.
Does anyone find fault in what I've written, specifically fault with the eGo suggestion over the OP's preference of a $50 cig-alike, or, does anyone have a problem with the provari or silver bullet suggestion, with the $50 and cig alike request in mind?
Why? Discuss.
But if the OP says something more to the tune of "I'm looking for an e-cig. I'd like to spend around $50 if that will give me a quality vape. I want something quality. something with a warranty. something worth my money. I would like one that looks like a cigarette."
I'm going to let him know that the cig-alikes have bad battery life and it is not advised to use lower resistance heads on them. Im going to tell him that if he must have a cig-alike, the Volt, and the Bloog Max Fusion are of the best in quality, but, I'll tell him/her that many of us that have been vaping for a long time would recommend looking into a larger battery mod and explain why... I might suggest he buy 1 510 battery for a 2nd choice, for out of the home, then I'm going to suggest an eGo kit for his main PV. Why? because hes looking for a smaller mod as close to a cigarette's size as possible, but he/she is not willing to sacrifice a GOOD vape, good battery, good quality. he doesn't want it to break. maybe I'd suggest a nice eGo, like a genuine joye, because he's looking for a quality mod. I would suggest a twist, because hes looking for a quality vape.
OP, or anyone else for that matter, are you against a Provari owner popping in to this thread, and giving a similar answer to the one above, but also including the following: "I personally own an eGo, but only one eGo battery. You will want an ego kit, with 2 batteries, because it will be your main vaporizer. I prefer bigger battery mods for their battery life. I personally own a silver bullet and a provari mini. if you are looking for a high quality mod with a good warranty, the silver bullet it a great option. it isn't anywhere the size of a cigarette but if you can get past this, the battery life far outweighs the life of a smaller cig alike (which will only last 2-3 hours) and an eGo (which is the size of a sharpie, with OK battery life) the silver bullet, with an 18650 battery, can last as long as 15 hours with regular use. Or, alternatively, if you'd like a variable voltage mod with the battery life of the bigger batteries, you could try the provari. the provari has great battery life and the benefit of allowing you to adjust the voltage to suit the particular cartomizer or atomizer you've purchases, & how powerful you'd like the hit to feel. Both of these bigger battery mods are of quality build and you may be interested in taking these into consideration as well.
Does anyone find fault in what I've written, specifically fault with the eGo suggestion over the OP's preference of a $50 cig-alike, or, does anyone have a problem with the provari or silver bullet suggestion, with the $50 and cig alike request in mind?
Why? Discuss.
I am pretty new to vaping and I quit with an ego and a stardust...I was very unsure of leaving cigarettes behind and had I been told that the only good way was to purchase a device for several hundred dollars, I wouldn't be posting here now. It is hard to switch from the size and weight of a reg cigarette to something even the size of the ego in those first days and weeks(was for me), had a family member that even stepped backward and bought the slim batteries and was much happier!
My point is, I don't think many people that are new to vaping are ready for something such as the P... but if you feel it is necessary to give them the information about the device, at least be kind enough to explain other less expensive options when they clearly state they have a 50.00 budget.
The worst thing I have seen is when the new members ask about a device they purchased and they get "the lecture" on how sorry they will be and what a waste of money it was, that isn't very encouraging! If they are the P kind of guy/gal and can afford it, they will eventually end up there. I personally do not want something larger than the twist...all I can think of when I think of spending 2/3 hundred dollars on a device is .....Look at all the juice I can buy for my twist with that money! LOL
My point is, I don't think many people that are new to vaping are ready for something such as the P... but if you feel it is necessary to give them the information about the device, at least be kind enough to explain other less expensive options when they clearly state they have a 50.00 budget.
The worst thing I have seen is when the new members ask about a device they purchased and they get "the lecture" on how sorry they will be and what a waste of money it was, that isn't very encouraging! If they are the P kind of guy/gal and can afford it, they will eventually end up there. I personally do not want something larger than the twist...all I can think of when I think of spending 2/3 hundred dollars on a device is .....Look at all the juice I can buy for my twist with that money! LOL
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