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My mom was one of those too. But some of these newbie's are looking to buy something NOW. They don't want to wait to save up and get the big boy right away. They want to get off of cigs NOW. I want them to start getting off the smoke train as soon as possible. Not wait till they can afford the big thing. I know that isn't what you were implying intentionally.
All I am saying is there are GOOD products out there that ARE NOT Provari's. IF they can afford one and are asking about the "Best thing" out there, fine tell them about it. BUT if the person is telling us that they are on a budget and CAN'T Afford to spend $200, how in the world can we justify telling them to buy a Provari? Warn them about knockoffs! Send them to trusted genuine sites. That's all I'm saying.
I hope my Hubby pays attention to what I want for Christmas. Yes, I would like one. Do I need one? NO. Am I happy with my Twists? YES. I like the look of it. Will I become a fanboy? GAWD I hope not!
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x2. I could have a Provari in every room of the house, but I don't see the need.I can afford a Provari all day long, but I don't have one.
I simply don't have any need for one.
I like my Twist just fine.
It's pocket friendly, and that is what matters to me.
Besides, this is still a very new industry. I remember paying $700 for my very first VCR. Hey, it was stereo and I wanted the very best up front. No sir, I wasn't going to waste money on some cheapie up front. Well, I now know how that investment turned out.
I learned my lesson. This industry is evolving rapidly. I don't need a $200 battery to go along with my $700 VCR.
I will continue to recommend the ProVari to everyone inquiring about variable voltage devices unless of course, they say "I only have $50 to spend", that would be nothing more than trolling them to suggest something that costs $160. People come here for advice, take it or leave it but please don't slam it.
My father was the same way, anything to save a buck! Depression era mentality, I get it to a point! I'm that way with tools, if it's something I don't think I'll use that much, I buy it from Harbor Freight, if I burn it up, I buy a much better replacement. If it's something I KNOW I am going to use, I will spend the money on it, period! I've upgraded most of my hand tools to Mac and Snap-on. Can I justify spending $250 on a set of wrenches, probably not, but I don't strip bolt heads and my knuckles aren't busted up anymore! I'll use Craftsman sockets, but don't even think about handing me one of their ratchets! I'd just as soon throw it in the trash as to use it! They are JUNK!
I bought a Lava Tube clone to try VV, I like it, but at the end of the day, it's a $40 piece of JUNK! The threads on the cap leave a lot to be desired, the threads for the connection are loose as a goose and I've no expectations of it living long in my world! But it let me get my feet wet in that world.
I scrimped and saved to get a Provari, it's on it's way. There are cheaper options out there, for sure, but I don't want the problems that come with the cheaper ones. I want it to work, not have to fiddle with it! But I don't think it's for everyone!
As for the comment on the price of cigarettes, I watched a lady buy three cartons of cigs a few weeks ago, $150 and change! But again, someone just getting started, unsure if it's going to work for them or not, I can't see spending that kind of money off the bat.
I was always taught to go the middle road. When compared to genesis atomizers and rare devices with the kick in them, the provari is the middle road. I try to point new vapers in the right direction. don't pass on anything you don't know as truth as definite truth. If you don't know, tell them the percentage of how sure you are about what your stating, and where you heard it from. If the new vaper stated they are torn between the provari and the zmax, give them the pros and cons of both devices. yes, I sometimes do work in that I own a provari, not only to brag, but to let them know that I can personally recommend, it because I have had time with my own. but I do try to be as unbiased as possible. Just deliver the facts and allow the new vaper to decide what is more important to them personally, between the two devices.
Now if a new vaper is starts by saying they are looking for a variable voltage device but they don't want to spend a lot of money, the provari will never show up in my response unless I am comparing the device(s) they have brought up, or the devices that i'm telling them about, to the provari, as a means to show them how reliable or unreliable said devices are. you know, don't push them. the decision is theirs in the end and there is no benefit in making a noob pick your mod.
I think we all need to remember that whether your a fan boy/gal for provari, or a fanboy/gal for the zmax, or a fanboy/gal for the reo, or a fanboy/gal for whatever, we're all on the same team and we're all trying to help those NOOBS for the SAME REASON. Because we want them to QUIT smoking, become totally and completely SATISFIED with vaping, so that they don't become ill or die of cancer. END OF STORY.
Now if a new vaper is starts by saying they are looking for a variable voltage device but they don't want to spend a lot of money, the provari will never show up in my response unless I am comparing the device(s) they have brought up, or the devices that i'm telling them about, to the provari, as a means to show them how reliable or unreliable said devices are. you know, don't push them. the decision is theirs in the end and there is no benefit in making a noob pick your mod.
I think we all need to remember that whether your a fan boy/gal for provari, or a fanboy/gal for the zmax, or a fanboy/gal for the reo, or a fanboy/gal for whatever, we're all on the same team and we're all trying to help those NOOBS for the SAME REASON. Because we want them to QUIT smoking, become totally and completely SATISFIED with vaping, so that they don't become ill or die of cancer. END OF STORY.
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I looked at it this way. Here in NY it costs about $10 a pack. I smoked almost 2 PAD, so in a little over 2 wks I would have spent the same amount as the cost of a P. I started with an ego and within 2 weeks I was getting tired of charging batteries all the time. So I dropped the cash on a P. if anyone can spent that much on stinkies, you get your self a high quality e cig.
Once my itaste MVP gets here, I won't have to take my P to work or out of the house.
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Once my itaste MVP gets here, I won't have to take my P to work or out of the house.
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This is the most sensible post I've ever read from you Plumes! Thank you, you are coming along well!
Haters are just as bad as fanboys
i almost bought an apple product once,,,then i got educated
i agree with everything about this post except one part,,i have two MVP's coming too,,i doubt they will survive the abuse i put my provari through on a daily basis ,,but time will tell
right now the provari is doing great @5 below fahrenheit and being dropped into snow banks,,
last winter @ 60 below ,thats before windchill...it never stumbled once
i have to send that one back and my provape,,,both times it only cost me shipping one way.
they are both more then year old
how many other manufacturers offer that kind of service ??
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Heres a little secret about saving money....forget about short term costs for anything. A cheap pair of jeans from Wal-Mart might sound good to your wallet at the time but they wont 6 months down the road when the thin fabric has ripped and the cheap dye has faded so bad theyre almost white. Levi's cost more but a good pair could last 5 years or more.
Thats why people post about getting the Provari when someone is trying to save money....an Ego Twist might be cheaper initially but over the course of a couple of years a Provari will have paid for itself in the cost of replacement batteries alone.
Theres absolutely nothing wrong with being cheap and trying to save money but at least try to put some thought into it.
Thats why people post about getting the Provari when someone is trying to save money....an Ego Twist might be cheaper initially but over the course of a couple of years a Provari will have paid for itself in the cost of replacement batteries alone.
Theres absolutely nothing wrong with being cheap and trying to save money but at least try to put some thought into it.
Yes, but a newbie doesn't even know if they're going to like vaping. If they post that they want to try vaping and have $50 to spend, telling them that they'll only get a good vape if they spend $300 will just turn people off before they even start.
I agree, whole heartily! BUT, we have to take into account many are uncertain as to whether or not this will even work for them, some it does not! We also have to respect budgets, I myself had to scrimp, save and sell my soul to "she who must be obeyed" to pull off a purchase of this magnitude! To some, this isn't a big purchase, in my world, it's HUGE!!I think the whole point is we have to be respectful and mindful of budget and remember how scary it was for us when we first started!
So will trying to give them something cheap that doesnt meet their needs. I think the first question that needs to be asked is always how many cigarettes did you smoke per day?
I would be just as reluctant to offer someone who smoked 2 packs a day a Blu as you are to suggest a Provari to a newbie but for different reasons.
What happened to the middle of the road option??? That is going from one extreme to the other.
+1 to the OP. It drives me nuts too. A coworker has his Provari. The craftsmanship is beautiful and the functionality is amazing. I am planning on purchasing one. HOWEVER, I am PERFECTLY satisfied by my old-fashioned eGo with a Mini Vivi Nova and 1.8 ohm head. I am going to buy a Provari just to have one, not because it will be the end-all-be-all of devices. Additional, my vaping habit has me with four devices at any one time and I rotate through 4 flavors continuously, therefore the Provari is impractical for this reason. Also, I appreciate the smaller size of my eGo 650's. Easy to have multiple eGo's in my pocket than multiple Provaris.
Soooo... the Provari is NOT necessary for many to have a satisfying vaping experience.
Soooo... the Provari is NOT necessary for many to have a satisfying vaping experience.
Mercedes are great cars that last a long time and hold value. Does that mean we should just all buy them? I think not.
If I buy something for $50 that works for me that means that I can provide my own warranty about 4 times for the same price as a Provari.
This Provari logic is just sickening. I guess I should just forget about shopping around for anything and just buy the most expensive item in any and every category so that I get the best of everything. NOT!
If I buy something for $50 that works for me that means that I can provide my own warranty about 4 times for the same price as a Provari.
This Provari logic is just sickening. I guess I should just forget about shopping around for anything and just buy the most expensive item in any and every category so that I get the best of everything. NOT!
I think youre misunderstanding me. Theres no doubt that Im a big Provari fan and supporter but Im advocating that people ask pertinent questions before making a recommendation.
Im guilty myself of strongly suggesting a Provari to a heavy smoker but Ive seen just as many people make the mistake of offering something thats cheap that likely wont get the job done and possibly turn people away from vaping altogether. Thats why Im not a huge fan of Blu or any other company out there that misleads people by saying their product is top of the line.
When were all trying to help someone quit a nasty addiction doesnt overkill make more sense than underkill? Id rather have more device than I need then not enough.
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