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Atty Vs. Cart Vs. Clear... Ohm my!

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  1. aahangie

    aahangie Full Member

    Sep 2, 2012
    Nova Scotia
    The more I read in forums, the more confused I get. Maybe if I get instructions based on my personal kit, I can relate it to the facts of e-cigs, so here it goes.

    I own a manual 510 Mega Auto Kit kit and a similar kit from viecs.com (can't find the link since they changed their store around). I'm on my last atty and purchased ones that only suck in air from madvapes so I'm getting nervous that my last atty will die with nothing to replace it with.

    I've heard that the particular kit I have shouldn't have the attys it does, so I ask you all what atomizers I should purchase next. I want to keep it from madvapes. I own juices and want to be able to hold about 10 drips at a time so now I wonder if a cart would suit me best... or are carts for automatics that are already prefilled can can't be filled again? And then there are clearomizers? Too many choices but I just want the basics.

    So, something preferably from this page: http://www.madvapes.com/pv-parts/atomizers/510-atomizers.html but I don't know which one best suits my particular kit because of the ohms.

    Please help. Thanks!
     
  2. SoUnique

    SoUnique Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 24, 2012
    Onatrio, Can.
    Why not send them an email and ask them, if that's where you got the kit?

    If it was me though, I'd be trying to find it a bit more local, so you're not without while waiting for something from the States. Also, get back ups so you always have working hardware.
     
  3. chagrin

    chagrin Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 29, 2012
    Toronto, Canada
    The simplest explanation is that the lower the omhs the lower voltage you need to create vapour, 510 batteries are quite low voltage at 3.3 volts, as opposed to some bigger e-cigarettes which can go from 5-6 volts or higher. So personally I'd say you want to stick with LR (low resistance), which for most devices is usually 1.8 or 2.0, sometimes lower.

    Cartridges can be re-filled a few times, yes, but virtually no one uses this set up any more. I would suggest LR cartomizers, if you're insistent on using the 510, they have the atomizer and filler built into one disposable unit for a lower price and perform better.

    Clearomizers weren't really designed for the 510 or any cigarette sized devices, the popular ones - stardust, vivi nova and kanger t2 are 3-4 times the diameter of the 510 battery. You're really stuck with the standard old atomizer and cartridge, the atomizer and tank system (which performs horribly) or a cartomizer.

    I'd personally suggest going with a new kit like the Redds kit from happyvaper or the eRoll from canvape, both vendors are in Canada and both are better performing systems that are cigarettes sized. That is of course assuming you don't want to go with something cigar sized, like an Ego twist - which is generally what the majority of people are using now.
     
  4. aahangie

    aahangie Full Member

    Sep 2, 2012
    Nova Scotia
    If 510s need LR attys, why are there higher volts available for 510s online? I'm still curious about this page 510 Atomizer, 510 Atomizers | MadVapes for purchasing some- I understand the shipping will take longer but it's cheaper...

    ...but if there are any Canadian vendors at this price, I'm willing to switch it up. Any recommendations from this page or others?
     
  5. chagrin

    chagrin Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 29, 2012
    Toronto, Canada
    You can use a higher resistance it just won't produce as much vapour and those atomizers will work on hundreds of e-cigarettes that that are 10 times the size with 10 times the battery life. 510 is used to reference the connection (threads) and not just the 510 battery.

    Try looking at canvape.com and maybe vaporgeek.com, just don't buy the bridgeless atomizer if you're still using cartridges.

    Like I'd said though I would suggest getting a new device, or if you use the 510 switch to cartomizers, they only last a few days to a week or so, but they can be found for $1 each, if you buy a bunch: Boge Mix'n'Match (5 Box).
     
  6. farmer_bric

    farmer_bric Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Dec 24, 2011
    Maberly, ON
    Since you're in Nova Scotia, I'd give Switcher a try at jrcustomturning.com :) VERY knowledgeable fellow and will give advice if you ask.
     
  7. aahangie

    aahangie Full Member

    Sep 2, 2012
    Nova Scotia
    I noticed he doesn't have parts for a 510, unfortunately. :(

    Are there any atomizers I can buy online for less than $10, Canadian or US suppliers (that ship to Canada, of course) that anyone can recommend? Madvapes is out of the ones I need, I see.
     
  8. farmer_bric

    farmer_bric Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Dec 24, 2011
    Maberly, ON
    Actually I use his 801 Ikenvape atomizers with a 510 adapter :)
     
  9. Battlelance

    Battlelance Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 8, 2012
    NB, Canada
    Sure he does. Here is your low resistance atomizer

    Everyone here has given you great advise. The old-school 510 batteries (I started with the same kit, and still use those batteries occasionally) are, well, old-school. Do yourself a favour and get a ego twist and a clearomizer (T2, vivi, etc) or cartomizers. Those old cartidge + atty setups are just meh.

    I linked JR because he is as local to you as you can get, but Canvape has a lot of hardware at fantastic prices and that is where I buy 99.8% of my stuff (only because they carry almost everything, I prefer one stop shops).
     
  10. Royaldrunker

    Royaldrunker Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 26, 2012
    Vancouver
    if i could do what i know now as a person new to ecig... do your self a favor and buy a couple ego upgrade 600 mah and a couple good dripping atomisers....$50 tops and you can vape and try out new flavours without dropping the $100's we all have spent
     
  11. larktdl

    larktdl Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 7, 2009
    Strathmore, AB
    IMO, if you are using a 510/eGo type battery (less than 4 volts under load) I suggest that you get a cartridge/atomizer in the ohms range of 2.4 - 2.8 ohms ,,, any lower and I think you will get the gawd awful burning issue biting at you, any higher and the atty may not produce the hit you are looking for.

    Since you are in NS, as already suggested by farmer_bic, contact Switcher. He is a vaping guru and will be able to help you out.

    When I first started vaping, Switched (Switcher) was my goto guy for all things related to ecigs.
     
  12. Royaldrunker

    Royaldrunker Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 26, 2012
    Vancouver
    i ocasionally use my hh357 1.5 ohhm on my ego and give great vapor and taste
     
  13. Royaldrunker

    Royaldrunker Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 26, 2012
    Vancouver
    btw 1.5 hh357 atties like under 4 volts...so any ego lr 1.5 atty will be fine and produce
     
  14. larktdl

    larktdl Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 7, 2009
    Strathmore, AB
    Good point ,,, might be a good option for the OP. However I am leaning towards the 2.0 ohm atty for the hh357.
     
  15. Royaldrunker

    Royaldrunker Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 26, 2012
    Vancouver
    i have only used the 1.5 ohm 357 and find it performs flawless...let me know on the 2.0
     
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