Auto-feeding in REO Grand?

[bushmaster]

What would cause a Grand to begin auto-feeding right out of the blue? I've had the Grand for years and never had a problem with it. Now it starts auto-feeding after the bottle gets about half-empty(ok, half-full for you optimists). It happens right here at my house so there is no change in altitude, temperature, etc. I've given it a good bath and still it occurs.
Any ideas?

 

[fatherdano]

phantom vapers???

 

[bushmaster]

So I have to exorcise my Grand? I was afraid the cure was gonna be tough.

 

[Commie]

I wonder if there's something stuck inside the feeding tube, silicone or metal part of it. I think reduced inner diameter would make it autofeed. That might not be it, depending on your Reo bathing techniques. I usually force some water through the connector, and then clean it out with a straightened paper clip.

 

[bushmaster]

Ok, ok, ok, I'm making progress. Swapped the bottle and atty over to my old Grand and it's still occuring. Just swapped out the atty with a clean one and now vaping and waiting........
I don't know enough about the physics of the Grand to know if an atty could cause auto-feeding but I'm just testing the variables. BBL.

 

[nerak]

So I have to exorcise my Grand? I was afraid the cure was gonna be tough.

Unscrew the cap a little bit. Make it less tight. Make it a little looser.

Vampire juice bats can rarely been seen. I have heard they had a vacuum mouth that sucks juice up into the drip well so they can lap it up.

You sure it is auto-feeding and not juice collecting in the cup from the atty? I know this is perplexing for you.

 

[bushmaster]

No Karen, the atty is constantly burbling. Vapable but near flooded and there is juice swirling around in the cup and I haven't squonked for the past hour or more--pretty sure that's auto-feeding.

 

[fatherdano]

is your juice bottle really well used??

is it super plyable? a newer, stiffer juice bottle would have less ability to autofeed... maybe, just an idea.

 

[bushmaster]

It is. I think it's the one that came with my first Grand from .....over two years ago anyway and the only one that I've ever used on my Grands. I just swap it back and forth. I think I've changed the o-ring in it once or twice. That'a a possibility worth considering.
However, I have not had a problem today since I swapped out the atty. I look forward to someone smarter than me(won't be hard to find) telling us if an atty can or cannot cause auto-feeding.

 

[nerak]

It is. I think it's the one that came with my first Grand from .....over two years ago anyway and the only one that I've ever used on my Grands. I just swap it back and forth. I think I've changed the o-ring in it once or twice. That'a a possibility worth considering.
However, I have not had a problem today since I swapped out the atty. I look forward to someone smarter than me(won't be hard to find) telling us if an atty can or cannot cause auto-feeding.

I have used atty's in the past that always seemed to be juiced. Never gave it too much thought as to why. I do remember that they would flood easy. Almost like drawing on the atty was enough to get juice into it. Would end up with juice in the cup, just a little after it sat awhile.

Remember I usually use multiple REO's. So just one atty on one certain REO would be used maybe every five vape sessions. That does not give me much time to develop that there is a real problem. Make sense?

 

[bushmaster]

Makes perfect sense, Karen. I, on the other hand, use the same mod all day every day. Oh, my Woodvil sits at my computer and I vape a different flavor from it in the evening but overall, I use one Grand all day long. Needless to say, we've become very close.
I really notice the slightest glitch in its vaping qualities as in a weakening or mucky atomizer. This auto-feeding thing was well beyond that however. Blatantly obvious. No problem now after changing attys. I have the suspect atomizer soaking in PGA until it I conclude my investigation. Hopefully it'll learn the error of its ways and become rehabilitated.

 

[Gioajack]

Use enhanced interrogation techniques on the suspect atty... works every time.


Jack

 

[bushmaster]

I did waterboard it for awhile, Jack. Can't be sure yet if I made an impression.

 

[redeyedancer]

Another one who needs a new mod

 

[bushmaster]

You sure are getting to be slippery, Robert.

 

[redeyedancer]

You sure are getting to be slippery, Robert.

I no need a new pair of shoes

 

[boilednuts]

Hi Rog

With the bottle half full (optimist here) what level is the juice in your tube?

 

[bushmaster]

Good question. I didn't really pay any attention but since it was continuing to feed juice into the well, I'd bet it was above the bottle. I should have looked more closely.

 

[boilednuts]

Good question. I didn't really pay any attention but since it was continuing to feed juice into the well, I'd bet it was above the bottle. I should have looked more closely.

Reason for asking is that I've been having issues with the REO's 510 connector full of juice, just won't drain back into the bottle after squonking. After unscrewing the bottle cap a bit it drains back into the bottle leaving the connector dry. You may be having the same issue like me. Thinking that somewhere there exist a vapor lock preventing the juice from going back down again.

You may be actually drawing juice from the connector every time you vape and the problem is further down the system. I don't think there's any debris cause I can blow back into the bottle pretty easily with the cap off/loose. I know that if the level of juice inside the tube goes up and down while giving a squonk its working fine. Waiting for it to happen again to see where the juice level in the tube is, if its full this may be what's causing your auto feed.

 

[bushmaster]

As far as I can tell so far, changing the atomizer corrected my issue. I thought Robert might have some comment on it but he was clearly too busy drumming up his mod market. Just kidding, Robert.
I think you hit it on the head that I was drawing juice whenever I vaped because I sure wasn't squonking and I couldn't vape away the level in the bowl--it kept climbing. I don't really understand the hydraulics in the Grand or how the atomizer could be the problem. I'm just a bad back-yard mechanic that starts changing parts until the problem is solved and hopefully it worked this time.