Hey everyone. Just came across this piece by sheer chance - it's on a government website, and it's brand-new, dated May 2011.
D Safe G - Safety Digest - May/2011 - Electronic Cigarettes
That's right - the CFB's Camp Borden (a Canadian military base here in Ontario) will now tell our troops that vaping e-juice via e-cigs is the same thing as smoking.
Idiots.
It's not enough apparently, to ask our troops to serve & perhaps even die in the line of that service. Now, any of them who have made the switch from smoking to vaping will need to go sit with the smokers in the smoking shelters / smoking huts, amongst the clouds of deadly second-hand smoke.
Soldiers who wish to vape, but do not care to spend time in a poisonous smoke-filled atmosphere...must ensure that they are 15 feet away from any walkways, sidewalks, buildings, common areas, work areas, or any place at all where anyone else working there must pass by on occasion. In other words, virtually nowhere on the base. If you're a soldier at Borden, and a vaper...you're now screwed. Sit with the smokers, or (practically speaking) go cold turkey.
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This is b.s.! I tell you...the stupid, irritating and I dare say evil b.s. towards e-cigs, vaping & vapers never seems to stop issuing forth from HC - or from those who blindly follow them.
To our Canadian troops...I urge you to calmly arrange to meet with your CO & explain why this is fundamentally wrong. A candid discussion with your CMO beforehand may help as well. Request that Alberta's Dr. Carl V. Phillips be consulted as part of their "further research and consultation with appropriate subject matter experts." Vapour is not smoke; e-cigs do not involve any combustion of anything at all; and vaping e-juice via e-cigs is now clinically, scientifically, objectively proven to be infinitely safer than smoking.
Asking troops who vape to be treated as smokers literally makes as much sense as asking people who use the patch or nicotine gum to be treated as smokers (i.e. no damn sense at all).
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The government cannot lawfully treat vapour as though it were smoke. I'm not certain of the following, but it appears to me that HC may be attempting to very quietly & sneakily set a precedent in Camp Borden re: lumping vaping in with smoking. A precedent they may try to build upon, to spread this idiocy across the nation. It must be stopped, here and now, so that it doesn't spread any further...and so that it gets squashed in Borden, too.
Nicotine is a legal substance, and the form we vapers are using it in is most definitely a non-prohibited form. When HC says otherwise, they are provably lying. And above all - there is no law, anywhere, that says you cannot vape in a public space.
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One last thing: does anyone else see the sheer irony in this attempt to misclassify vaping as smoking...while at the same time, HC continues to block regulation, seize packages, wage war on our suppliers, and treat e-cigs & e-juice as contraband? Even if these products were eventually classified as "tobacco products" due to the nicotine [a far-from-certain outcome, I might add; ECITA has been working successfully towards a far more appropriate "general sales products" classification in the EU & UK]...
...no-smoking laws do not prohibit the use of tobacco products. They prohibit smoking.
No matter how you look at it...vaping is not smoking, any more than an ostrich is an ocean.
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Anyway...sorry if I got anyone riled up in a bad way. Try to enjoy your Sunday; that's the plan for me & the babies. We're off to go do that now. Happy vaping, & all the best!
D Safe G - Safety Digest - May/2011 - Electronic Cigarettes
That's right - the CFB's Camp Borden (a Canadian military base here in Ontario) will now tell our troops that vaping e-juice via e-cigs is the same thing as smoking.
Idiots.
It's not enough apparently, to ask our troops to serve & perhaps even die in the line of that service. Now, any of them who have made the switch from smoking to vaping will need to go sit with the smokers in the smoking shelters / smoking huts, amongst the clouds of deadly second-hand smoke.
Soldiers who wish to vape, but do not care to spend time in a poisonous smoke-filled atmosphere...must ensure that they are 15 feet away from any walkways, sidewalks, buildings, common areas, work areas, or any place at all where anyone else working there must pass by on occasion. In other words, virtually nowhere on the base. If you're a soldier at Borden, and a vaper...you're now screwed. Sit with the smokers, or (practically speaking) go cold turkey.
---
This is b.s.! I tell you...the stupid, irritating and I dare say evil b.s. towards e-cigs, vaping & vapers never seems to stop issuing forth from HC - or from those who blindly follow them.
To our Canadian troops...I urge you to calmly arrange to meet with your CO & explain why this is fundamentally wrong. A candid discussion with your CMO beforehand may help as well. Request that Alberta's Dr. Carl V. Phillips be consulted as part of their "further research and consultation with appropriate subject matter experts." Vapour is not smoke; e-cigs do not involve any combustion of anything at all; and vaping e-juice via e-cigs is now clinically, scientifically, objectively proven to be infinitely safer than smoking.
Asking troops who vape to be treated as smokers literally makes as much sense as asking people who use the patch or nicotine gum to be treated as smokers (i.e. no damn sense at all).
---
The government cannot lawfully treat vapour as though it were smoke. I'm not certain of the following, but it appears to me that HC may be attempting to very quietly & sneakily set a precedent in Camp Borden re: lumping vaping in with smoking. A precedent they may try to build upon, to spread this idiocy across the nation. It must be stopped, here and now, so that it doesn't spread any further...and so that it gets squashed in Borden, too.
Nicotine is a legal substance, and the form we vapers are using it in is most definitely a non-prohibited form. When HC says otherwise, they are provably lying. And above all - there is no law, anywhere, that says you cannot vape in a public space.
---
One last thing: does anyone else see the sheer irony in this attempt to misclassify vaping as smoking...while at the same time, HC continues to block regulation, seize packages, wage war on our suppliers, and treat e-cigs & e-juice as contraband? Even if these products were eventually classified as "tobacco products" due to the nicotine [a far-from-certain outcome, I might add; ECITA has been working successfully towards a far more appropriate "general sales products" classification in the EU & UK]...
...no-smoking laws do not prohibit the use of tobacco products. They prohibit smoking.
No matter how you look at it...vaping is not smoking, any more than an ostrich is an ocean.
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Anyway...sorry if I got anyone riled up in a bad way. Try to enjoy your Sunday; that's the plan for me & the babies. We're off to go do that now. Happy vaping, & all the best!
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