Bananas Foster Doubler

[shatner]

I recently order Bananas Foster, 24mg/ml and a doubler. And before I say anything, it tastes great just like last time, and I love the doubler idea and offer.

But here's the thing; it really seems like the doubler is thinning the flavor. It's 50/50, pg/vg.

Is this just me, or is this a known thing. It's my first doubler purchase.

Thanks in advance,
Adam

 

[whimzkool]

VG is known to mute flavors somewhat. It may be due to the 50%.

 

[jebey29]

Yes it is but not for the reasons you think. You ordered the 24MG juice with a double so i can only assume that you are mixing the double with your 24mg to make a weaker liquid. At 12 MG Geoff recommends that you add no more than 50VG to preserve his "flavor."

Yet when you combine your doubler with your base liquid then you are going to get a percentage higher than 50%VG therefore crossing the threshold that Geoff states is advisable.

Again im assuming that your liquid also contains VG but with a 50/50 double im pretty sure you maxed out the VG% on your liquid to at 35%VG.

If your mixing your liquid even lower than 12MG then you are dulling the flavor even more.

But then again i have vaped the doubler by itself to test the taste and honestly the tastes are pretty close anyway so im not sure about anything i just said.

 

[keyzygirl]

If they are both 50/50 and you mix them 50/50,wouldnt they still be 50/50?I dont get what your saying Jebey,They are meant to be mixed,arent they?Im confused.

 

[czarmoney]

If they are both 50/50 and you mix them 50/50,wouldnt they still be 50/50?I dont get what your saying Jebey,They are meant to be mixed,arent they?Im confused.

If they both are 50/50 you should be right, but You can't order 50% VG (at least not anymore). So he'd have to be increasing the amount of VG in the final product. [I think it'd be around 40-45% VG, but I'm not doing the math to figure it out, lol]

 

[keyzygirl]

Oh,so that xtra vg would cause less flavor.I didnt see about adding xtra vg to the mix.Thanx!

 

[Poeia]

I got 10% VG in my Atomic Cinnacide and 30% in the Doubler.

If I mix equal amounts of each, the result is 20% VG.
If I mix 1 part e-liquid with 2 parts Doubler, the result is 23.3% VG

Add the % VG in each "part" then divide by the number of parts.

 

[ella]

I realize that this thread is pretty old but I just want to thank Poeia for helping in determining what percentages of vg/pg I need:

I want 16 mg banana nut bread
I order 48 mg banana nut bread and 1 doubler
I want 20-25% vg in this mix but should not order 48 mg with more than 10% vg

So according to Poeia, I ordered 48 mg bnb with a 10% mix of vg and a doubler that is 30% vg.

10 + 30 + 30 = 70, 70/3 = 23.3% vg

Thanks!!!

 

[cidvicious]

great post

 

[minxy_fox]

I am finding this all so very confusing. Mind you, it really doesn't take much to confuse me! I'm wanting to order some doublers, but have no idea what to do.

 

[ella]

Hi minxy_fox

With regard to doublers, for me it's just a way to save a little money. You buy a mg strength that is say 2 or 3 times stronger than what you need and then "dilute" it with the 0mg doubler.

So as indicated in my earlier post, I vape 16 mg and buy 48mg so that I can get triple the value when diluting with a doubler.

 

[markimar]

So using 48mg unflavored with doubler is not going to weaken flavor?
I got banana nut bread doubler and 48mg unflavored should I have bought 48 mg bnb?

 

[Poeia]

Glad I could help, Ella.

Markimar, yes, you will dilute the flavor by adding unflavored e-liquid to a doubler.

I am finding this all so very confusing. Mind you, it really doesn't take much to confuse me! I'm wanting to order some doublers, but have no idea what to do.

Doublers are the same flavor as the e-liquids so you can add it to the e-liquid without diluting the flavor but you would dilute the nicotine strength.

The reason you would want to do this is that doublers cost 1/4 as much as the e-liquid (1 oz for $15 vs 4 oz for $15.) You can therefore order stronger e-liquid than you want to vape plus a doubler and stretch your dollar. For example, if you want to vape 4 ounces of a flavor at 12mg you can order:
-- 4 bottles of 12mg e-liquid for $60; or
-- 1 48mg bottle and 1 doubler for $30, mix it yourself and you'll still have an ounce of doubler left.
When the FOTW is the flavor you want, you won't save as much but you will still save a lot.

There are great spreadsheets around that will calculate how much of this, that and the other to add but I think they're best for DIYers who are adding a variety of things and need to know how much of everything to put into the mix. When you are only putting two things together, you can just do averages.

I had all the basic dilutions you can do with the nic levels TV carries on a spreadsheet to make it easy for me to mix. I posted it here. The reason I refer to "parts" is that it doesn't matter what size units you use. 10 drops of an e-liquid plus 10 drops of the doubler will get you the same strength as 1 ounce of each.

Because all you are doing is averages, you can figure out the % VG in a mix the same way as Ella did.

 

[markimar]

Aww damn now I have to buy a 48 mg. Bnb...oh well!
forgot Banfield was on sale!