battery melted rda mod contact point

[dcfluegel]

Thank you for the good wishes and warm welcome and am now following mooch. And will read over his post later. I have tried to do research and I'm seeing now don't trust a salesmen and most online q&a have bogus answers. And most single article blogs, articles probably aren't a reliable source.

you are in the right place, sister - there is a lot of excellent info, support, and insight here (as well as contests, giveaways, and heads-ups on sales)... I buy all my gear online now, after doing a little research here - since ECF isn't trying to sell me anything but an opportunity to support and enhance the vaping community/ experience and protect our right to vape, I feel SIGNIFICANTLY more confident in getting guidance here... PLEASE - any questions you have, post em up - we gotcher back, sister... and again - welcome! please don't feel too overwhelmed by in onslaught of info - we ALL had to start where you are now, essentially - you can do this!

 

[dcfluegel]

much too nice of a face to have it full of miscellaneous battery pieces

 

[dcfluegel]

Hey! I'M one of those loons! Good suggestion though, bro! Great way to get a good mod if your luck runs deeper than mine!

hiya loon! WOOT!

 

[Sir Kadly]

I don't really have much to add, but wanted to strongly agree with the advice to get a decent regulated mod. I am extremely happy with my Evic VTC Mini, and the D2 that LouisLeBeau suggested also seems to be a good choice. If you really want to use a mech mod, you others have already posted links to information that you should study and understand in order to be safe, but I think a regulated mod would be the best choice.

 

[Hans Wermhat]

Lots of good advice here. I just wanted to reiterate the point that your build is WAY too low. Even if you get the best batteries out there they can't handle the load you built. I have a parallel build on my plume veil as well. It's a single 28G parallel, 8 wraps, 3mm, at about .65 ohms. That's about all the atty can handle. It doesn't have the airflow for anything bigger/lower. But it makes some of the biggest clouds I ever got out of the atty, and the flavor is great.

 

[nyiddle]

.09 whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?!

22 gauge whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?!?!

Just agreeing with everyone here: Regulated mod. Higher ohm builds. Stay safe.

 

[JMarca]

Not even sure it was the ohms that were the problem, if the battery gets hot super quickly like that and melts a cap you honestly might have had a short in there. A short trying to pull that much power would have had very bad results if the battery decided to spontaneously combust. Honestly you're very lucky had that battery exploded near your face I don't even want to go there.

 

[csAdams]

there should be a license or something to buy mechs at this point. I have a friend who bought a smpl clone and battery's from eBay. he's using a 1.2 ohm tank but when I warned him of the danger he had no idea what I was talking about.

 

[roxynoodle]

There were multiple safety issues:

1. The B&M employee has no clue!
2. Your build was too low for any single battery on the market. Please don't try again until you get that build to more like 0.4 ohm or higher. 0.09 is even pushing it on a two battery in parallel mod using 30A batteries.
3. The center pin of the Plume Veil was not safe with a mod like the SMPL. Your battery shorted on the top cap.
4. You are new to building and mechs and haven't yet learned all the things you need to know. Combined with #1, I'm just glad you didn't get hurt.

Some ideas to help you:

Mod: http://www.ecigavenue.com/shop/eleaf-istick-100w-dual-18650-box-mod/

Batteries: http://www.illumn.com/batteries-cha...8650vtc4-2100mah-high-discharge-flat-top.html

Put the SMPL away for now. The Plume Veil will need to be repaired.

 

[Bunnykiller]

go back to the B&M and fire the person who made that coil/setup for you.... .09 or even.9 is wayyyy too low for a mech mod...
.25 should be the lowest safe minimum even with a good battery....

 

[AzPlumber]

Thank you for the good wishes and warm welcome and am now following mooch. And will read over his post later. I have tried to do research and I'm seeing now don't trust a salesmen and most online q&a have bogus answers. And most single article blogs, articles probably aren't a reliable source.

Hopefully you'll return here and let us know that you now understand why it happened.

 

[AzPlumber]

go back to the B&M and fire the person who made that coil/setup for you.... .09 or even.9 is wayyyy too low for a mech mod...
.25 should be the lowest safe minimum even with a good battery....

Why is .9 way too low?

 

[mackman]

A good portion of the advice (Ω amps etc) means nothing to her. As suggested until she can research and grasp ohms law among other basics she would be best off with a regulated mod and prebuilt coils. She might share this thread with the brother in law who set her up on this path to disaster too.

 

[MattyTny]

Glad you didn't hurt yourself, it sounds like you were dealing with a dangerous situation and it didn't go completely south.

It looks like you already received a bunch of good advice. Make sure when you deal with mechanical devices that all points of contact are clean, like positive/negative points and threads. This will ensure a solid connection and produce better results. It's also extremely important to note that hybrid style devices need a atomizer 510 that protrudes post the 510 threads.

I know that Mooch and Baditude have great information that will help you. If you have the time I have a one page blog that explains Ohm's law very simply with the aid of Steam engine visuals and how to relate it to coil building. The bottom of the blog has links to Mooch, Baditude, and State O' Flux blogs.

https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/f...d-how-it-applies-to-personal-vaporizers.7344/

 

[Kaezziel]

Glad you didn't hurt yourself, it sounds like you were dealing with a dangerous situation and it didn't go completely south.

It looks like you already received a bunch of good advice. Make sure when you deal with mechanical devices that all points of contact are clean, like positive/negative points and threads. This will ensure a solid connection and produce better results. It's also extremely important to note that hybrid style devices need a atomizer 510 that protrudes post the 510 threads.

I know that Mooch and Baditude have great information that will help you. If you have the time I have a one page blog that explains Ohm's law very simply with the aid of Steam engine visuals and how to relate it to coil building. The bottom of the blog has links to Mooch, Baditude, and State O' Flux blogs.

https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/f...d-how-it-applies-to-personal-vaporizers.7344/

Very nice blog post you put together there, Matty! Well thought out and informative... I can tell that you put a lot of time into that one! Great job, Sir!!!

 

[Makaela]

A good portion of the advice (Ω amps etc) means nothing to her. As suggested until she can research and grasp ohms law among other basics she would be best off with a regulated mod and prebuilt coils. She might share this thread with the brother in law who set her up on this path to disaster too.

sorry i realize you did not read the entire post. I was ignorant and believed people at a shop my bro in law is 6 hours away so I've had about three days of intensive learning and the rest has been online on single post blogs or subject post.

 

[Bunnykiller]

Why is .9 way too low?

for someone not knowing better...its too low....
plus I made a typo.... should have been .1

 

[Syakster]

I think before you start messing with mech mods, you have to understand the relationships between resistance, voltage, current and power.

Here's an Ohm's law calculator. There are tons of them all over the internet.
http://www.ohmslawcalculator.com/ohms-law-calculator

A 0.5 Ohm build at 4.2 volts will draw 8.4 amps and produce a little more than 35 Watts. If your battery can handle at least 10 amps continuously, that should be OK (as long as the battery doesn't short to the bottom of the atty). That might be a good place to start until you get more experience with it.

Also a hybrid top cap mod is about the worst for a beginner just trying to get going. You might consider getting a mod with a 510 pin so you don't have to worry about that issue for now. You've got enough to think about at first.

So mech mods with 510 pins won't blow up, or there is still that chance but just a lot less than hybrid mods?

 

[Bunnykiller]

any mod can blow up.... all depends on the ohms used, design ( bad design) of the atty pin and mod combination....
excessive chain vaping... pretty much any situation that causes the amp draw on the battery to exceed its limits of the battery can send the battery into a meltdown.... just like car engines... run them past the redline ( excess rpms)for an extended amount of time and it will go poof

 

[Makaela]

I don't understand the energy transference like how it is actually made if you know which is why I wasn't able to grasp ohms law. Other than energy source. And now after reading and going and entering the numbers i was running yesterday on steam engine yes I'm glad I'm actually not dead. I have entered the numbers of resistances that y'all have gave me and it is helping me understand how mAh and V do matter yes but when you are actually firing it is about Amps and Ω. I'm assuming the energy transference I could visualize if running way too low resistance as trying to split an atom? And when the battery would hit the connector post the energy that is supposed to be able to evenly flow through the battery and connector post and coils looses control because the coils are what is pulling the power? Please tell me if I'm wrong anywhere in my lame short story/visual. How I can best describe how I understand ohms law.