Been away for a while--WHAT'S THE BEST NEW KIT OUT THERE???

[erinmc]

I've been using the Joye Ego since I started vaping a year and a half ago. I think there must be something better out there by now. Saw the Ego-T kits on sale at Velvet Vapors....how are these and how are they different from the Ego??? Also, I use LR atty's. (hate how they leak and die so fast---what is a better kit for me???) PLEASE help me decide

Thanks

 

[Motoman101]

I bought two different not enough vapor. Then I bought the provari from provape .com. Like exhaling clouds. Pricey but only unit you will ever need. Check out the reviews on utube. Good luck

 

[Flyer]

Most here will recommend the Kgo or E Power over the Ego system Kgo and E Power are 3.7 V systems as opposed to 3.3 V for Ego. Dosen't sound like a lot but in fact it makes a significant difference. Kgo is similar to Ego in that it is a disposable (the battery cannot be replaced). E Power allows replacement with inexpensive batteries and long term is a better buy. The Ego style tanks have a tendency to leak. Not everyone experiences leaks but they are frequently reported. There are better juice delivery systems that also hold more juice such as cartridges, cartomizers, clearomizers and tank/carto systems. A quick search here will provide you with recommended vendors for Kgo and E Power devices. They are available in kits with refillable cartridges and cartomizers. Clearomizers and tank/carto systems can be purchased seperately.

 

[acolyte357]

If you already have the eGO kit, I would advise trying out the eGO Twist (VV 3.0V - 4.8V). It's a good entry into VV on the cheap. you can find them for $25 - $30 and will work with your eGO chargers. Try some cartos ( I personally like Boge SR with VV devices)

EDIT: the eGo-T system is a "tanked" atty. I have one and it's a little prone to leaking. I did not like the setup.

 

[Cloud Wizard]

Well now you did it. Let the Provari "tango" begin...

Honestly, all the "haters" compare the Provari against everything else for a reason. It's a super PV! Pricey, but worth every penny

 

[acolyte357]

Provari is a great product but at $211 for the kit, not a great entrance into VV

 

[magentaman]

Quality and cheap don't always go hand in hand. Bills keep me from trying a Provari, but I assure you one day I will have one!

Well now you did it. Let the Provari "tango" begin...

Honestly, all the "haters" compare the Provari against everything else for a reason. It's a super PV! Pricey, but worth every penny

 

[Cloud Wizard]

I agree, steep price. YMMV but for me at least, it stopped the hemorrhaging of cash while I quested to find the "perfect vape". Since I got it I haven't bought anything but consumables (cartos/tanks/juice) and my balance sheet started tipping back in my favor against what I would've spent on analogs.

 

[acolyte357]

Battery is a Battery. If the device supplying power can maintain a constant voltage under load then there's no difference IMHO. Now atties and cartos...that's something I love to play with.

 

[John D in CT]

"The BEST kit out there"?

Let's see:

A Provari V2 with five or ten Odysseus tanks; one for each flavor. Or maybe a Bulli A2-TM atty with a bunch of Joyetech "B" tanks.

A Smoktech VMax with same.

A Darwin with same.

A VV Reo; would that be a Woodville, or are the other Reo VV's out yet?

Or my actual recommendation:

Two Joyetech eGo-C Twists, 650 mah. About $25 each.
Five Smoktech 3.5ml DCT tanks. About $8.50 each.
Ten Boge 2.0 ohm single coil stainless steel XL cartos. About a buck apiece.
Wall charger plus USB charger. About $15.
Drip tip. $2.99, what a rip-off.
Trim piece so the tank won't slide down. $1.49
Juice.

Slam dunk.

There are hundreds of other setups you could get, but this assortment of stuff makes a great addition to just about anyone's collection of stuff. You could also get a Joyetech C-type 3-piece atty with five or ten "B" tanks and a pack or two (five per pack) of standard-resistance atomizer heads.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...sion/302432-why-ego-c-twist-game-changer.html

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/306344-first-post.html

I do not like e-Powers. I have used them extensively in the past, and it is my experience that Joyetech batteries put out more actual power at a nominal 3.4 volts than e-Powers do at 3.7. I think it has to do with the pulse width modulation that the Joyetechs use. I believe that newer kGo's also use PWM and would also outperform an e-Power. With just the right single-coil carto an e-Power can give a fine vape, but then you still have a constant-voltage device, whereas the Twist is variable voltage for cheap. The e-Power of course has the advantage of using replaceable batteries and a replaceable switch, which IMO is not worth forgoing the advantages of VV that the Twist will give you.

 

[erinmc]

Ok, why VV?? How does it help? By the way...love your picture--that's my son's favorite movie!

 

[sailorman]

avoid the eGo-T and the eGo-C. If fixed voltage is good enough for you and you just don't want a pain in the .... that's going to leak, get the e-Power or KGo that Flyer recommended. Their both tried and true 3.7V batteries and you can use something on the end besides the junky tank systems that the eGos use.

If you want to try VV, then the Twist is o.k., if you want to either buy two of them, or be ready to use your old system while your Twist charges up. When you consider that a Twist is ONE battery, and it's way bigger than anything else with an equal capacity, it stops being such a great deal. Plus, it's disposable. Do you buy disposable flashlights? Would you buy a car you had to throw away when the tires went bald?

If you want variable voltage and can't see your way to spending $200+ on a Provari, try a Vtube from Apollo. They're 30% off right now with code Vtube30. They take replaceable batteries up to 2000mah, they cost less than a pair of Twists, the full sized version is smaller than a 1000mah Twist, and when the Twist wears out and dies, the Vtube will still be under warranty.

You can get aluminum in black, silver or red for $50. Chrome is $60 and stainless is $73 including shipping for a full kit with a 1600mah battery. Use code "dad20" for 20% off a spare battery.
Apollo VTube Kit

 

[Dana A]

I would have to agree that the Provari is the best. The Darwin is probably great too but the built in battery makes it a no go for me. If you have already had the EGO I would recommend the Ego twist as well with a 3.5 ml DC Tank. Good luck.

 

[Cloud Wizard]

Seems like 510 threading has won the connector wars (most everything is 510 now), but VV (variable voltage) allows you to use any resistance on any carto/atty/clearo and fine tune for best throat hit, vapor and taste. Higher Resistance (HR) stuff (e.g. 3.0ohm carto) allows for finer control in that 0.1v adjustments cause a power change of ~0.2watts. Low Resistance (LR) stuff (e.g. 1.5ohm) give a change of ~0.45 watts so you can't dial-in as exact. Thin/thick juice, pg/vg ratio, nic concentration all behave differently and taste different for everyone. So, it just comes down to the "quest for the perfect vape".

(although I guess 3.0ohm is actually considered Standard Resistance SR, but the idea is sound...)

 

[John D in CT]

Ok, why VV?? How does it help? By the way...love your picture--that's my son's favorite movie!

It's the Goldilocks effect. Just as Goldilocks wanted to optimize her porridge temperature, chair size, and bed hardness, with VV you can adjust the voltage to produce just the right amount of heat at the (single) coil for a wide variety of juices, or to meet the requirements of different atomizers that might have varying rates of juice delivery to the coil. For example, a Joyetech C-type atomizer might want a different wattage than a single-coil cartomizer in DCT tank, coil resistances being equal.

In short, variable voltage just lets you dial in a better vape. Additionally, you could use a single coil 3.0 ohm cartomizer on a Twist to extend the battery life by lowering the amp draw, something you cannot do with a fixed-voltage device.



They look good too. Nice size for out and about, but not the end-all and be-all device. Just a very nice addition to one's "arsenal" IMO.

 

[sailorman]

Variable voltage lets you use 1 resistance and adjust the voltage to suit your taste. Like a cooler vape, turn it down. Want something warmer, turn it up. You don't have to use low resistance or high resistance or anything but 3ohm cartos to vape from 5 to 12 watts. This is the Vtube. You can adjust the voltage from 3 to 6 volts. The diameter is the same as a nickel. It's much smaller than the pictures look and takes an 18650 sized battery, included in the kit with a charger. You can get about 14 hours on one battery charge. This is the chrome version and costs $60 shipped with battery and charger and a 30 day money-back guarantee and a one year warranty.

 

[Dana A]

Yes Yes the V Tube is another good option but has a lower amp limit than the Provari. I am not sure about the twist. Sailor whats the cut off on the twist? Sailor knows his stuff better than me. I forgot about the beautiful SS V Tube because I have a bad case of what Sailor calls Provangititis. I just want to spread Provari sunshine all over the earth LOL but the V tube is a good option too. God I am such a Provangalist!! Sailor I love these names you gave me.

 

[sailorman]

Would someone please explain to me how a DC carto is supposed to be so good on a twist with a 2.5amp battery limit, yet that same DC carto is no good for a Lavatube with a 2.5amp limit?

Certainly no one means to suggest that you try to run your twist beyond the amperage limit of the battery.

 

[Dana A]

They call the tanks DC Tanks but we use single coils in them is that's what you mean.

 

[John D in CT]

Variable voltage lets you use 1 resistance and adjust the voltage to suit your taste. Like a cooler vape, turn it down. Want something warmer, turn it up. You don't have to use low resistance or high resistance or anything but 3ohm cartos to vape from 5 to 12 watts. This is the Vtube. You can adjust the voltage from 3 to 6 volts. The diameter is the same as a nickel. It's much smaller than the pictures look and takes an 18650 sized battery, included in the kit with a charger. You can get about 14 hours on one battery charge. This is the chrome version and costs $60 shipped with battery and charger and a 30 day money-back guarantee and a one year warranty.

To the OP: Sailorman does know his stuff, and if he says he likes the Appolo V-Tube, that tells me one thing; I'm going to buy one. That thing would look slicker than hell with a chrome DCT tank or a Bulli atomizer on it.

I think honorable mention has to go to the Smoktech VMax, which is also a heck of a device. It uses two AW IMR 18350 ("safe" chemistry) batteries, which gives it 7.4 to 8.4 volts to work with, and has a heroic 5-amp limit. In the interest of full disclosure, it is nowhere near as proven a device as the ProVari , Lavatubes (which I believe the Apollo essentially is), or the Buzz Pro 2.