Been using 21st century smoke for a few weeks

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dormouse

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Post a link to the exact model. Somebody said there are two models that call themselves 21st century.

We may or may not be able to identify a group of possibilities it might be.


This one?
http://www.21stcenturysmoke.com/products

First try RN4081 cartomizers - AZSmokeFree, SmokeStik, njoy (Npro) have some prefilled. VaporKings.com and Goodprophets have blank. Some 7-11's carry Njoy 2-n-1 (aka Npro) and those cartomizers are the RN4081 threading too.

If they don't work try 510 (standard resistance 2.5 to 3 ohms only) cartomizers - Vaporkings.com has some Chinese-liquid prefilled Boge and lots of plastic have blank 2.5 to 3 ohm 510 cartomizers.

If they don't work either then it is mystery female battery model - no ID


And if one of those does work, that does not mean that your charger is compatible with that model's batteries nor vice versa. if it's RN4081 it's probably the same electrical polarity but if 510 threading then no - there are 4 different models that use that threading and the one rebranders usually use is reverse polarity
 
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bsmith

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Post a link to the exact model. Somebody said there are two models that call themselves 21st century.

We may or may not be able to identify a group of possibilities it might be.


This one?
buy electronic cigarettes, electronic cigarette supplies, e cigarette store

First try RN4081 cartomizers - AZSmokeFree, SmokeStik, Njoy (Npro) have some prefilled. VaporKings.com and Goodprophets have blank. Some 7-11's carry Njoy 2-n-1 (aka Npro) and those cartomizers are the RN4081 threading too.

If they don't work try 510 (standard resistance 2.5 to 3 ohms only) cartomizers - Vaporkings.com has some Chinese-liquid prefilled Boge and lots of plastic have blank 3.5 to 3 ohm 510 cartomizers.

If they don't work either then it is mystery female battery model - no ID


And if one of those does work, that does not mean that your charger is compatible with that model's batteries nor vice versa. if it's RN4081 it's probably the same electrical polarity but if 510 threading then no - there are 4 different models that use that threading and the one rebranders usually use is reverse polarity

Thank you for the info dormouse and yes that link is to the ecig I currently am using.

I like menthol flavored vape. I hope im not asking dumb or over asked noob questions but here it goes.

Is this type of ecig is what is commonly called a 508?

What flavor/battery options do I have?

Thank you!:2cool:
 

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I started with those also. They are not compatible with any other thread type to my knowledge. I did some research myself back then and have tried 4081 and 501 and neither fit. If your bound to using the brand you can refill the cartos. Pop the white cap off as well the white spacer inside and drip juice into the filling like you would any other carto. They'll last a few refillings extending the life of the carto.

I didn't use it long as for 30 bucks you can get a much better model of e cig.
 

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Your model looks like it may be a 4081, and you can get spare parts, cartos, and juice here :
Cartomizers for the RN4081

There is a list of registered suppliers on the front page of the forum, these are vendors that have serviced the membership of ECF and have proven themselves with good customer service and prices. Or they would never here the end of it :) Your model is not one of the more common ones, but is a good starter. The most popular models right now are 510 and 808-D1 (could change without warning :) ), they have the most accessories available and are carried widely.
 

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I have never heard of a 508.

As I said - My first guess is that it is RN4081. That is a model number and there is a good chance that is the threading you have. But first YOU have to find out if your model really is RN4081 by buying a pack of cartomizers and trying them. There is no magic way for me to tell you if your threading specifically one of the 3 female battery threadings I listed. If it IS RN4081 then you can buy blank cartomizers and fill them with eliquid yourself and keep them damp to get many days use out of each. I recommend thin juices (PG w/ 20% or less VG) and clear juices work best.

If RN4081 don't fit, you try 510 (the other common female battery threading whcih also has plenty of blank cartomizers)

Alternately, return or forget that ecig you have and instead buy a KR808D-1: SmokelessImage Volt or Bloogplanet Maxxfusion and I recommend MANUAL BATTERIES. If you are refilling cartomizers it is safest to use manual batteries that are well sealed and at much less risk of being damaged or killed by juice leaks. Manuals also make it easier to get a good hit. if you like to take really long drags (longer than 5 seconds), instead look at Vapor4Life.com (same threading, has a longer safety cutoff and allows longer drags up to 10 seconds, but a threaded end that may not be as well sealed though it looked sealed inside the battery's hole) These should be a better model and cartomizers - easier to fill and warmer. I am using a Bloogplanet blank carto right now and got 7 days use out of it because I keep it damp with suitable juice. Try the Bloogplanet or SmokelessImage cartos and if you want hotter for these models try the Vapor4Life WOW cartos.
 
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Then it is the mystery female threading that nothing fits? No idea what will fit it in that case. Someone else had one of those - looked like RN4081, had cartomizers or atomizer+carts like RN4081 does, but fit nothing.

1. Try to refill the cartos you have and buy a spare battery

OR

2. Give up on it and buy a KR808D-1

OR

3. Skip to fat battery models
 
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WOW, OK a RN4081 should also be a 8mm x .75 and a 510 is 7mm x .5
anything in-between would have to be proprietary threading of some sort.

The re-branders seem to have caught on that their "standard" products were
being identified, and got inventive. :(

p.s. thanks Pepsifreak - sometime identifying an off brand is a best guess,
someone that's owned it and tried has the best info!! :)
 
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Thank you all for the info and sorry for the confustion, this is my first foray into the vape scene.

What do you all think about this system?

eGo 1100 mAh 2 battery kit

I found it clicking the link at the top of the site or in someones sig.

Seems like a good deal, the batteries seem to be about as good as you can get (cant tell/dont know if they are auto or manual and im not really sure what that means), and looks like I can fill the cartridges with whatever 'juice' I would want. A nice minty one for sure!!!

Im pretty excited here if you cant tell!
Thank you.
 
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Thank you all for the info and sorry for the confustion, this is my first foray into the vape scene.

What do you all think about this system?

eGo 1100 mAh 2 battery kit

I found it clicking the link at the top of the site or in someones sig.

Seems like a good deal, the batteries seem to be about as good as you can get (cant tell/dont know if they are auto or manual and im not really sure what that means), and looks like I can fill the cartridges with whatever 'juice' I would want. A nice minty one for sure!!!

Im pretty excited here if you cant tell!
Thank you.


...presently, that is one of the best kits on the market...great batt(10+hrs) and with 510 threading, you have the most accessory options available...those batts are manuals(gotta push a button) and are generally considered much superior to autos(just draw and it starts)...........
madjack:2cool:
 

bsmith

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Nice so it seems that would be a good choice.

Why are the manuals cited as being superior to the manuals. From the lay person it would seem like a slight PITA to have to push a button when you want to take rip...

Also, if this is a good choice what are some better options and what would be the benefits to the recommendations?

Just to clarify the link I provided is a system where I could put whatever 'juice' in the cartridge to vape on as I wanted?

What would be a good recommendation for a menthol smoker/vaper? Just some background info when I smoked cigs I smokes Camel Silver menthols, so lights. If that helps at all.

Thank you!
 

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You can use any juice in a cartridge that goes on an atomizer or w/ drip tip and atomizer (since the battery is a sealed manual) as long as it flows at least as fast as you vape (i.e. you may need to thin juices that are mostly VG). But few people like to use atomizer + cartridges (those cartridges can be annoying)

Cartomizers (what most use for their favorite juices) are harder to use with thick juices. For plain popular stuffing cartomizers like the Boge 510 ones I use PG juices with 20% or less VG and I avoid juices that drop a lot of flavoring sediment. So I can often get 10 days use out of one Boge cartomizer. Some people say with more expensive dual coil cartomizers they can use up to 100% VG (but it is very thick so you need patience to screw with using it in a carto). And there are reservoir cartos that can use juices with 30% or less VG and may work with some thinner 50/50 juices.

So yes - you can use any juice you want, but you may not be able to use it the way you want.
 

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...the tank system you linked to sounds good in theory and many like them but in actual reporting, MANY report leakage problems, problems with consistant flavor/throat hit/vapor and hit or miss attys...a good carto system will blow it away on most points and many cartos will hold as much or more than the tanks...the choice is yours and you can always go with cartos when you get tired of fiddling with the tank system...on batts...manuals, if they are good will be the most bullet proof way to go...autos, are prone to damage from juice leaks because they are not sealed the way manuals are and getting juice into them will kill them...the autos also have a generally to short auto shutdown on the draw...often too short...with a manual, you have control...you can hit the button before you start your draw so it is cooking when you start to draw...as is oft said about manuals...you control the batt, the batt doesn't control you.......
madjack:2cool:
 

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...the tank system you linked to sounds good in theory and many like them but in actual reporting, MANY report leakage problems, problems with consistant flavor/throat hit/vapor and hit or miss attys...a good carto system will blow it away on most points and many cartos will hold as much or more than the tanks...the choice is yours and you can always go with cartos when you get tired of fiddling with the tank system...on batts...manuals, if they are good will be the most bullet proof way to go...autos, are prone to damage from juice leaks because they are not sealed the way manuals are and getting juice into them will kill them...the autos also have a generally to short auto shutdown on the draw...often too short...with a manual, you have control...you can hit the button before you start your draw so it is cooking when you start to draw...as is oft said about manuals...you control the batt, the batt doesn't control you.......
madjack:2cool:


What system would you recommend for what I am wanting (quality unit, ability to use whatever juice I want)?

Same to you dormouse.
 
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