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Chinara

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Hi to everyone. Glad to have found this forum. I have been relying on the shop I buy my juice from for help but they don't seem to care (mostly) if they sell me junk or give good advice. Using an I stick 30watt and a 40watt with a ce5-5 vapeonly tank using bvc aspire coils, usually 2.1. Not sure the type of juice. It lists PG then VG next on the ingredients but not the mix. The coils last me about 24 hours and its getting expensive. I was hoping someone could tell me what I am doing wrong. I am trying to let the juice soak in better but that hasn't seemed to help. Thoughts anyone?
 
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Welcome.

Please don't take this the wrong way, but whilst you have good batteries, your choice of tank is outdated and the CE5 that takes the Aspire BVC coils is a cheap and very poor piece of technology.

There is very little wrong with the BVC coils, although the 'baby' ones are not in the same league as the Nautilus ones.

Your solution? Change to a Nautilus tank (mini) and re-think your shop.

Where are you? UK or US or somewhere else? :)
 

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At which setting do you use your batteries? What is it about your coils that lets you believe they only last for 24 hours? Is it taste? Lack of flavour?

Good questions.

Aspire do make a 2.1ohm BVC coil. In the old days of vaping, that would have made an 'up to' 8 watt vape on most eGo 'pen' batteries.
If you tried to use them at more than a certain power, they might not like it very much.
Aspire say they can work at 5.0 volts, which is 12 watts, basically.
I took 3 packets of these coils to China and they burned out in a few days at 4.2v which tells us all we need to know about how economical with the truth Aspire are about the real world specifications of their products.
They are good coils, just not really useable at too high watts.
 
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Between 5 and 7 watts. They just start leaking fluid and little or no vapor. The flavor is not as good but I can handle that.

...and you've been putting up with this for a long time? Poor you.

I found them quite bad for this, but I never used them long enough to get a clear idea. I always went back to the 'Nautilus BVC' instead.
Now I don't even use them.... (don't like the pricing structure in the UK)....

You shop has let you down. The tank itself is absolutely terrible. One of the worst ever made. It's a 40p piece of plastic.
 
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Lol. Whenever I try something different it is always worse. I've spent a small fortune on different tanks.. I was afraid to try something new as everyone just wants to sell me junk. So glad I tried this forum. I will try the Nautilus mini and hopefully the wicks will last longer for me. Do you guys recommend a particulat site? And thank you very much!
 
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...and you've been putting up with this for a long time? Poor you.

I found them quite bad for this, but I never used them long enough to get a clear idea. I always went back to the 'Nautilus BVC' instead.
Now I don't even use them.... (don't like the pricing structure in the UK)....

You shop has let you down. The tank itself is absolutely terrible. One of the worst ever made. It's a 40p piece of plastic.
What are you using instead?
 

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    That tank tends to gurgle easy, worse than the same coils in a different tank. That said, if you're going through several tanks of highly-flavored liquid in that 24 hours that might be considered normal, or at least within half the lifetime you should expect. You could be running it too hard though, trying to get satisfaction from it. A good aspect of those is they can be run off fairly simple batteries, maybe even a simple eGo stick battery although they like a bit of extra voltage (e.g. 4.2V which is a fully charged battery but needs voltage boost capability to maintain, so ideally at a least a mini-Spinner). I used to carry as many as 3 complete units in my pocket when I used small tanks only, for backup, variety and to spread the load. If I vaped one until it was hot, I'd switch to another. Anyway, the battery units you're using are really more justified by a higher output tank.

    As to trying other tanks, I have found there are many I don't like but anything you've been using has advantages that you're used to it both in settings and technique, and probably have selected juices that taste good in it. I switch between 2 different power levels using 2 kinds of atomizers but have had trouble adding a third; most people only use one kind of vape for a while instead of "switching gears".

    Quick rundown of some tanks:
    Kanger single coil series (EVOD, Protank 2) -- must be set to lower voltage and power than what you're using, flavor not very clean but very present, easiest coil units to rebuild.
    Kanger dual coil series (EVOD 2, Protank 3) -- most similar to what you're using but possibly a tiny step down.
    Kanger Subtank (and updates) -- could be a good choice, allows direct lung inhales but far from the most powerful, popular to kind of under-use at maybe 20 watts, 1.8Ω MTL coil avail.
    GS Air -- haven't tried, kind of a newer cheaper Nautilus
    Kabuki -- takes Nautilus coils, newer, cheap clones (original ~$80)
    Endura T18 -- highly reviewed MTL tank, top coil with cotton, although a little hot on the little battery it often comes with, better on something adjustable.
    RTA (rebuildable) -- many around such as the Kayfun is a standard for MTL tanks. I haven't had much luck myself with building them though.
    RDA -- rebuildable dripping atomizers offer a true step up in quality, though less convenient, and come and can be built in many forms. I prefer a mid-sized atty with a low power build (14W).
     
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    What are you using instead?

    Eleaf GS Air M tank. Quite rare in the UK but you can get the coils from China for £5 (5 pack).
    Totally Wicked (ah, bless them) charge £5.49 for 2.
    That's how this industry operates.
    £12.50 for 5 vs £5 for 5.

    £1,000 per year on atomizer heads vs £365. Enough for a weeks holiday in Tenerife.

    Actually, forget the holiday, I'll have an iPhone6 instead of throwing money away in British shops on items which cost 30 bleepin' pence.

    :eek:
     
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    I've also had problems with Aspire coils (though I was using the Atlantis and then Atlantis 2 coils). Even though the iSub Apex might not be a great tank (it's still definitely a good tank for the price though), the iSub coils are a lot cheaper and I have found them to be much more consistent than the Aspire ones. Luckily the tank itself is very inexpensive compared to some of the others on the market, and you can get coils from 0.2 ohms all the way up to 2 ohms. They even have clapton coils and stainless steel now (though I haven't tried those because I switched to an RTA). They run at pretty low wattages too, if that's a concern for you (the 1.2 ohm coils are recommended for 8-16W and actually perform pretty decently for that level of power, while the 0.2 ohm coils are recommended up to 50W).
     

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    That tank tends to gurgle easy, worse than the same coils in a different tank. That said, if you're going through several tanks of highly-flavored liquid in that 24 hours that might be considered normal, or at least within half the lifetime you should expect. You could be running it too hard though, trying to get satisfaction from it. A good aspect of those is they can be run off fairly simple batteries, maybe even a simple eGo stick battery although they like a bit of extra voltage (e.g. 4.2V which is a fully charged battery but needs voltage boost capability to maintain, so ideally at a least a mini-Spinner). I used to carry as many as 3 complete units in my pocket when I used small tanks only, for backup, variety and to spread the load. If I vaped one until it was hot, I'd switch to another. Anyway, the battery units you're using are really more justified by a higher output tank.

    As to trying other tanks, I have found there are many I don't like but anything you've been using has advantages that you're used to it both in settings and technique, and probably have selected juices that taste good in it. I switch between 2 different power levels using 2 kinds of atomizers but have had trouble adding a third; most people only use one kind of vape for a while instead of "switching gears".

    Quick rundown of some tanks:
    Kanger single coil series (EVOD, Protank 2) -- must be set to lower voltage and power than what you're using, flavor not very clean but very present, easiest coil units to rebuild.
    Kanger dual coil series (EVOD 2, Protank 3) -- most similar to what you're using but possibly a tiny step down.
    Kanger Subtank (and updates) -- could be a good choice, allows direct lung inhales but far from the most powerful, popular to kind of under-use at maybe 20 watts, 1.8Ω MTL coil avail.
    GS Air -- haven't tried, kind of a newer cheaper Nautilus
    Kabuki -- takes Nautilus coils, newer, cheap clones (original ~$80)
    Endura T18 -- highly reviewed MTL tank, top coil with cotton, although a little hot on the little battery it often comes with, better on something adjustable.
    RTA (rebuildable) -- many around such as the Kayfun is a standard for MTL tanks. I haven't had much luck myself with building them though.
    RDA -- rebuildable dripping atomizers offer a true step up in quality, though less convenient, and come and can be built in many forms. I prefer a mid-sized atty with a low power build (14W).
    Wow! You really know your stuff!! Lots of food for thought. Thanks!
     

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    Eleaf GS Air M tank. Quite rare in the UK but you can get the coils from China for £5 (5 pack).
    Totally Wicked (ah, bless them) charge £5.49 for 2.
    That's how this industry operates.
    £12.50 for 5 vs £5 for 5.

    £1,000 per year on atomizer heads vs £365. Enough for a weeks holiday in Tenerife.

    Actually, forget the holiday, I'll have an iPhone6 instead of throwing money away in British shops on items which cost 30 bleepin' pence.

    :eek:
    Lol, I want an Iphone 6 too! How do you order from China?
     

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    For ordering from China, you need a credit card and/or paypal account. Or get one of those prepaid credit cards. Other than that it takes some patience, but the pricing is worth the wait.
    Chinese vendors are e.g. Fasttech, Gearbest, Efuntop. Gearbest has a warehouse in Europe, so waiting time is less.
    Good tanks to use mouth to lung (which I assume is your preferred vaping style) are the aspire nautilus mini, eleaf gs air, kanger evod, endura prism 18 or 22.
    The eleaf is good flavourwise,just don't like the,airflow screw, cause it makes the tank whistle.
    The prism is supposed to be vaped at 14 watts, but it gets too hot for me at that setting. I like the evod glass,I get excellent flavour with it and coils are cheap. Don't have any experience with the nautilus. That one gets rave reviews, but the glass is vulnerable and it can be difficult to unscrew the base for filling.
     
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    The eleaf is good flavourwise,just don't like the,airflow screw, cause it makes the tank whistle.

    That is true for the original GS Air. The GS Air M, MS and GS Tank have an air adjustment ring. They don't whistle.

    I prefer the GS Tank because it's 22mm which makes filling easier. It's also shorter than the GS Air M. However, the GS Tank comes with nickel coils that can only be used with temperature control devices. All the GS Air series (including the GS Tank) will use the same coils so the 1.5, 1.2 and .75 ohm coils will work.

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    Chinara

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    Thanks Muru. There are so many products out there it gets overwhelming. I didn't realize my attys were not the only problem and so glad I decided to ask this forum for help. I like the idea of ordering direct from China. I could always fill in with attus from local shops as I wait for the shipment to arrive I like the idea of cheap attys. (I think that's what they are called.) I will check out everyone's suggestions and will probably get more than one to see what I like best as you guys have done.
     

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    If you are in the US, Myvape.com (AKA Gotvapes.com) has the GS Tank on sale for $4.95 (limit 2). They also have 1.5 ohm coils for $10.50 when you buy 5. There is also a coupon code for 35% off your order, hellomyvape.

    You can't use the nickel coils that come with the GS Tank on a istick 30w but you can on the istick 40w in TC mode. I have heard mixed reviews on the nickel coils so I suggest you stick with the 1.5 ohm coils.

    Eleaf GS-Tank Temperature Control 3ml Stainless & Glass [gv=EleafGSTankTC] - $4.95 : MyVape.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more

    Eleaf GS Air Dual Coil Replacement Heads 1.5ohm Dual Coil [gv-EleafGSAirRepHead-Dual1.5ohm] - $2.45 : MyVape.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more
     

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    Hi to everyone. Glad to have found this forum. I have been relying on the shop I buy my juice from for help but they don't seem to care (mostly) if they sell me junk or give good advice. Using an I stick 30watt and a 40watt with a ce5-5 vapeonly tank using bvc aspire coils, usually 2.1. Not sure the type of juice. It lists PG then VG next on the ingredients but not the mix. The coils last me about 24 hours and its getting expensive. I was hoping someone could tell me what I am doing wrong. I am trying to let the juice soak in better but that hasn't seemed to help. Thoughts anyone?
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