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<blockquote data-quote="bombastinator" data-source="post: 23678581" data-attributes="member: 43994">..if they actually existed..&nbsp; you’ll notice that the whole ad campaign about metals in vapes is gone.&nbsp; There’s a reason for that:&nbsp;it wasn’t true in the first place.They did more harm than good with “reefermadness” crud like that.&nbsp; The problem with a lot of vaping studies is they’re done by the tobacco companies and are “cooked” to show what the tobacco companies want to show.&nbsp; One has to be very very careful with sources.&nbsp; Also watching the film “the insider” can be useful as in the beginning it actually shows this process at work.&nbsp; The research has been done—as early as the 60’s sometimes.&nbsp; The issue is the studies get to the&nbsp; preliminary report stage (which more or less says what the research is going to show ) and then get canned so they don’t have to be reported.&nbsp; Effectively secret research.&nbsp; Having done the research and knowing how it comes out it is possible to set up “real” studies with prerequisites set up in such a way as to create a misleading result. It’s been going on for many many years.&nbsp; The film actually shows it being done.&nbsp; This is how “metal particles” became a thing.&nbsp; If you heat a coil hot enough (way way hotter than it would ever go under normal use) metal starts to jump off the coil. The simple solution is don’t heat it that hot in the first place.&nbsp; You can’t really anyway unless you dry burn.&nbsp; All that had to be done though was require the high temps in the study, then hide the money trail… which they failed to do and got caught.&nbsp; So the ads went away.&nbsp;&nbsp; What you see now at least FTM is more truthful: vapes can contain nicotine- trueNicotine is a hellishly addictive drug -trueThere isn’t really any need to lie.&nbsp; I don’t know why they do it anyway.Maybe because those bad things a ALSO true of cigarettes.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="bombastinator, post: 23678581, member: 43994"] ..if they actually existed.. you’ll notice that the whole ad campaign about metals in vapes is gone. There’s a reason for that: it wasn’t true in the first place. They did more harm than good with “reefermadness” crud like that. The problem with a lot of vaping studies is they’re done by the tobacco companies and are “cooked” to show what the tobacco companies want to show. One has to be very very careful with sources. Also watching the film “the insider” can be useful as in the beginning it actually shows this process at work. The research has been done—as early as the 60’s sometimes. The issue is the studies get to the preliminary report stage (which more or less says what the research is going to show ) and then get canned so they don’t have to be reported. Effectively secret research. Having done the research and knowing how it comes out it is possible to set up “real” studies with prerequisites set up in such a way as to create a misleading result. It’s been going on for many many years. The film actually shows it being done. This is how “metal particles” became a thing. If you heat a coil hot enough (way way hotter than it would ever go under normal use) metal starts to jump off the coil. The simple solution is don’t heat it that hot in the first place. You can’t really anyway unless you dry burn. All that had to be done though was require the high temps in the study, then hide the money trail… which they failed to do and got caught. So the ads went away. What you see now at least FTM is more truthful: vapes can contain nicotine- true Nicotine is a hellishly addictive drug -true There isn’t really any need to lie. I don’t know why they do it anyway. Maybe because those bad things a ALSO true of cigarettes. [/QUOTE]

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